HNDY16 Open SG - Byz Always War Sid Tiny Island Map

[ThERat]

save

Pre-Turn
with 3 towns, there is nth much to do

early
IT the Russian galley plays us out and is close to landing
instead of getting a landing attack galley, lose 1 curragh but defeat the galley

middle
another Russian galley comes into view
the Russians can actually sail in the sea as it seems

Late
defeat that galley with the loss of one curragh
a galley suddenly shows up from the other side and it drops a horse
MM is due next turn, we should build a rax to build vet units. think we should go for archers or horses to fend off the attacks

 

[DJMGator13]

I guess that puts me up. I'll try to play today.

 

[handy900]

Need to irrigate from the lake S of Adrianople to drag water to the plains. Maybe irrigate over the mine to get water flowing to the plains. Once plains have water we can get back to jungle chopping.

Also need to get a settler down to hook the lux up when we get a chance.

 

[DJMGator13]

No progress yet, my goal is to play some tonight & finish it tomorrow night. Let me know if that is a problem, otherwise I'll proceed when I get home from work.

 

[handy900]

Okay by me. I'm leaving town until Thus night in a few moments.

 

[DJMGator13]

Sorry for the slow down, I got 4 turns completed and should be able to finish up tonight. I'll post what I have Saturday morning before going out of town, so someone else can play over the weekend.

 

[DJMGator13]

Summary: Things turn slightly bad during my set. A Russian spear pair has been relentlessly pillaging our homeland, but with only a warrior to attack I did not and now a pair of AZT galleys is headed our way.

preturn 1250BC
RUS owns the Lighthouse which is why they are sailing the seas. They are also up 7 techs, while the others are up 4 techs.

IBT - RUS horse attacks Const. and kills a spear, but is redlined - then the galley sinks a Handy (I quickly rename the other curragh to Handy and hope that no one notices)
we learn MapM set to WC at 50% in 7 turns

Turn 1 - 1225BC
I kill the offending horsey
have to bump lux to 30% since the warrior is out of the city

there is another RUS galley near our shore

IBT - RUS galley does not drop off any troops / RUS complete MOM

Turn 2 - 1200 BC
lux back to 20%

IBT - RUS galley comes back east
CONST spear => barracks

Turn 3 - 1175BC
Handy hides in Const

IBT - RUS uloads 2 spear and archer next to our capital

Turn 4 - 1150BC
run the spear from Adrian up to Const to give us 3 units there

IBT - RUS offers peace for 32gold & 3gpt - not in an AW game / Handy defends against a RUS galley, then another galley unloads another spear and warrior then attacks & sinks Handy / Rus spear pillages the ivory
Adrian wall => spear

The BYZ must be a strange people because they decide to add to our palace

Turn 5 - 1125BC
change Const to a spear
run the 2 workers out of the area

IBT - AZT offer peace for 36gold and 3gpt - nope / RUS warrior redlines our vSpear before dying / both of the remaining spears moves to the other ivory - we're about to lose our lux
Const spear => barracks

Turn 6 - 1100BC
run a spear from Const up to Caesarea
2 northern workers join our souther workers

IBT - 2 AZT galleys moving north by RUS / RUS spear pillages our 2nd ivory / RUS is building TOA

Turn 7 - 1075BC
we'll have WC next turn, was able to leave lux at 20 even with the loss of our ivory
move a spear to protect our horses

IBT - the 2 AZT galleys cross, they are headed to us also / RUS spear pillages / ARB is building TOA
we learn WC set to HBR @70% in 12 turns

Turn 8 - 1050BC
wake Bugs to run interference with the AZT galleys

IBT - RUS spear move to a new tile

Turn 9 - 1025BC
move Bugs to force the AZT around the long way

IBT - the RUS pillaging continues / ARB completes Great Wall
Const barracks => archer

Turn 10 - 1000BC
move Bugs around the south side of island, the 2 AZT galleys were forced to go around the north side
due to the pillaging I had to drop sci to 60%

Notes to next player
1) Kill those RUS spear and watch out for the 2 AZT galleys by Bugsy
2) I started a Dromon, we need a lot of them

The Save

 

[ThERat]

I started a Dromon, we need a lot of them
QUOTE] agree, lots and lots of them and then lets start to steamroll, pillage, sink etc

 

[Own]

lurker's comment: That's an awful tiny island, how are you gonna pump out enough units to take down an AI? Or support them? Even if an AI has an island the same size, you'll still be meeting stacks of 50-100. You'll need lots of musketmen, amounts that I don't think that island and other islands you colonize could support. You'll probably need at least 3 musket armies, and there's probably not enough space for cities to support them. Well, that's just me. Good Luck! You'll need it.

 

[handy900]

I got it.......

 

[handy900]

Pre turn
No reason to guard the horses without roads and lacking HBR. I move the spear on the horses to the hill. He still blocks the path to the south and he can jump into the capital if we need help against more Russian troops. They have WC so archer are on the way I’m assuming.
I changed the capital to a harbor so we can upgrade out three dinky boats.

IBT
Another spear and Russian archer land. This is bad bad bad. There are now three spears and an archer in our lands. We may have to flush all those Glib Prebuild shields just to survive. I’ll try not to though.

Turn 1 975
Spear I move from the horses jumps into the capital.

IBT
Disaster strikes as the Russian archer beats the spear in our capital.

Turn 2 950
I was hoping the archer would lose so I could place the regular spear back on the hill to block the path to the south. The Russian spears spot the path to the south and are going that way. The capital harbor must be switched back to a spear to block the southern passage around the capital.
Adrianople gets switched to a harbor so we can upgrade Dromons. Two Currahs are relatively close to reaching port for upgrade. I will have to turn down science for 2 turns to gain cash to upgrade them

IBT
Horses are pillaged
Our harbor is done and ready to refit the currahs.

Turn 3 925
Move reg. spear onto the hill next to the capital.
Workers begin a furious irrigation project to save the capital from starvation.

IBT
Spear in the capital defeats Russian archer and spear an is elite.

Turn 4 900
We should have researched Math. If so we could switch to SoZ after we reestablish roads. Oh well, hindsight 20/20.

IBT
Russian finish ToA and start Glib
Russian horse lands next to the empty city of Adrianople.
Four Aztec galleys sail into view.

Turn 5 875
RNG smiles on us as our warrior kills the Russian horse.

Turn 6 850
Upgrade one currah

IBT
Aztecs land 5 swords, 1 archer and three spears.

Turn 7 825
Our first Dromon starts our golden age in 825BC
I hope we last the full 20 of our GA.
I empty all units from the capital to try and bait the AI way from Adrianople.

IBT
Aztecs capture Adrianople. We can’t upgrade anymore currahs until we get another harbor.

Turn 8
Switch the capital to a harbor

Turn 9
Aztecs swords moving our way.

Turn 10
Aztecs arrive at the capital
I guess I’ll play 15 turns since this may end next turn.

IBT
The Aztecs take the capital. Game over.
If we try this again we should consider skipping the Glib and going for MM and a slew of dromons.
Does anyone care to play in a "formal tiny Sid AW SG" as opposed to an "open SG"?

 

[Gyathaar]

Oops.. I actually started playing on this.. but forgot to post got it.. in my game things happened quite differently thou.. and I beat back all the aztec and russian troops..

 

[handy900]

Oops.. I actually started playing on this.. but forgot to post got it.. in my game things happened quite differently thou.. and I beat back all the aztec and russian troops..

Well by all means post your turns.

 

[Gyathaar]

1000BC, turn 0:
Things looks bad.. not much I can do this turn thou

IBT:
Russian spear pillage roads

975BC, turn 1:
Turn log mentioned something about 2 aztec galleys.. I move Bugsy north and spot them.. I will try to limit they passage to our island with boat

workers finish roads and go NW of Adri to road there

Russland landed Archer and spear.. that is bad.. I raise lux to 30% just in case one of the MP dies

IBT:
2 more aztec galleys sails into view

Russia kills our spear with archer.. however the regular warrior redlines, but beats down 2 attacking spears.. and promotes to vet

Constantinople: archer -> archer

950BC, turn 2:
Archer kills spear outside constantinople
warrior kills the redlined archer

workers roads and irrigates

IBT:
aztecs move closer

Adriople: dromon -> dromon

925BC, turn 3:
dromon moves up north along coast.. I bet the aztecs will land in same spot asrussians did, and the warrior moves back into town to allow it

Bugsy moves to make the aztec path longer

lux down to 20% again

IBT:
bah.. aztec boats move south along west coast.. they much be heading for the empty city

Constantinople: archer -> archer

900BC, turn 4:

I move new archer to Adrianople to lessen defense in Capital and raise defense in Adri

dromon goes north still


IBT:
Aztecs turns around

russians drops off a horse

russia starts GLib
russia complete ToA

875BC, turn 5:
kill the horse with the archer from adri

keep placing bugsy so aztecs has to take long path

ivory reconnected again

IBT:
aztecs keep moving

Constantinople: archer -> dromon

850BC, turn 6:
keep playing cat and mouse with aztecs

IBT:

aztecs try to get around our boats.. but cant.. so then move back west again

825BC, turn 7:
bombard hits aztec galley

horses reconnected

IBT:
aztecs move back east
hurt aztec galley heads home

800BC, turn 8:
bombard misses aztec galley

IBT:
aztecs move

775BC, turn 9:

bombard hits aztec galley

caesarea reconnected

IBT:
aztecs move
hurt aztec heads home

750BC, turn 10:
bombard hits one galley
just one more gally left

a 2nd dromon will finish IBT, we can then either make the last aztec galley go home or kill it for GA.. I would say delay the GA since we just have 3 cities still

HBR will finish IBT too

The Save

 

[handy900]

We live to fight another day.

 

[ThERat]

Does anyone care to play in a "formal tiny Sid AW SG" as opposed to an "open SG"?

yup, I would be in for sure.

or does this mean you continue now with Gyathaars game? informal? formal?

 

[Gyathaar]

I would be interested in a AWS SG too

 

[Obormot]

Does anyone care to play in a "formal tiny Sid AW SG" as opposed to an "open SG"?

I'd like to play. Not sure if i qualify for that though.

 

[handy900]

Let's play this out as an "open" SG since Gyathaar brought it back from the dead and then we can start another tiny AWS.

Roster for the next one :
Gyathaar
Rat
Obormot
I'll hold a spot for Bugs & Gator until they say otherwise.

That should be plenty.

EDIT: We could try a bigger map if you all care to, but I have to warn you the turns can get long and tedious when you have lots of dromons and artillery to fire each round.

 

[Obormot]

I thought this one was already over

Anyway the situation is not so good since we only have space for 3 good towns, most of our island is covered with jungle, that'll take too long to clear. I think that we should build the SoZ ASAP, but we can't dedicate another town to building wonders since we need more dromons. Maybe we should start it after the GL.

In my recent sid game i noticed a very strange thing: none of the AI's researched Literature at all, they made it to the IA without building any libraries and universities. In some other games most AIs didn't go for Literature for a long time after it was researched by more backward AIs and then traded around. Propably that's because tech priority for the AI depends on number of turns needed, and on sid only weaker AIs research MA techs slow enough. This propably means that we still have some time before they discover Literature