[GS] Holy Forward Settle!

SteveJustSteve

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Mapuche just introduced himself as my neighbor. Then the next turn promptly moved in right next door. Not sure I have ever been forward settled that closely at such an early turn before. This is going to get interesting quickly.

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In TSL I have been forward settled closer as sea tiles make it 2 tiles rather than 3. And yes it is off putting and yes it is 4 warrior time ... perhaps.

The thing with 4 warriors is it is a safe standoff. I had it 2 games ago, Shaka forward settles and then sends 5 units my way, I counter with warriors and he never declares.
If you can get it right, building slingers and being 1 turn from archery and tempt them to attack your city has big benefits.
1. The defensive tactics eureka
2. 100-200 grievances against you. If they take your city it is 200 and the world will turn a blind eye to you pretty much obliterating them.
3. Your units gain experience and an uncomfortable stand off was avoided as this wastes time, production and stress.

Point 3 in particular I hate, and even if you cannot get to a baiting position, declare formal war, fortify in home territory and watch them die against your troops. With any luck you can make peace for a bit of gold and the grievance soon goes.
Regardless, if someone forward settles me I’ll denounce them immediately because their intentions are clear unless I am sure of a good bait city. A surprise war is more grievances.
I hate stand offs.
 
I've seen that before. If they started the min distance away, and then with their free settler at the level go your way, you're touching borders before you even know it. But yeah, when I see that, then it's definitely telling me that I need to take them out early.
 
Mapuche just introduced himself as my neighbor. Then the next turn promptly moved in right next door. Not sure I have ever been forward settled that closely at such an early turn before. This is going to get interesting quickly.

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Is it just for me there's just one image showing twice?

I'll do you one better

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Just to tell the end of the story I started... (this was a standard size pangea map)

I went to war with Mapuche. It took a fair bit of work. I didn't hit iron early to upgrade to immortals. I ended up having to pump out massive amounts of archers. One of Mapuche's final cities had some iron in the 3rd ring so I bought tiles, improved it, and started getting immortals online. He never got his UU so I was ok.

I then had 7 cities I think. 2 of mine and 5 from Mapuche. Something like that at least. France had pushed up to my borders. I never know what's best to do in this situation. I've got a big army and I'm behind on districts and infrastructure, seems like the right answer is to take this time of peace to move the army into position to push back against France. So I did that.

My armies were better upgraded and larger than France. Once I took one of her cities an emergency was called. Korea and France joined. Now fighting on two fronts slowed me down from finishing off France, but eventually I got her. Korea was a pain. I had to just dig in, build some walls, and hold the line. Kind of disappointing the AI basically tries to walk through your land to get to the city that needs to be freed. The could have pillaged me a lot. I met Egypt, ugh, but Egypt was cut off entirely from my now huge area of land by a mountain range. They were going to have to take down a city state first to get to me so I knew I had time.

Since the emergency was still going and my main force was no longer preoccupied I thought I might as well see what I can do to damage Korea. Again being really far behind on science made me worry she could run away with a victory or out tech me and cause me a lot of grief with war later. I tired to push on Korea, but I couldn't make much progress. She had one city sort of by itself which I was able to take quickly. She had her unique field cannon and I was still trying to upgrade all the early archers I had to build into crossbowmen. I was getting one shot or taking like 99 damage hits so I had to get peace.

Between a little expansion I did for a Petra city and to grab some strategic resources I now had 15 cities. Being Persia I wanted to try the culture victory route. Luckily Korea was pinned into her area. She only had 6 cities (eventually she settled 2 more), but I didn't think I needed to worry to much about 15 cities vs 6 in the fight for science. Early on I had built mostly campuses to try and keep my army up to date. Now I started pushing hard for culture. I totally neglected faith. I built a couple cities up for production hubs, went commercial for my 3rd districts and just started trading everywhere. I got the Great Zimbabwe and set all my trade routes to originate from that city. It grew to something gigantic, maybe 24 population? I started pumping out tons of builders from the Petra city and the Great Zimbabwe city and plopped Paradisas(sp?) everywhere I could. I also had the Cakhotia (sp?) city state unique tile improvement also. It provided tons of gold and amenities.

Egypt ended up being my main competition. She went for science. Korea did make her push for space a little interesting, but I think she lacked production. Once time went on and my war weariness faded and the rest of the civs all liked me I pretty easily coasted to the culture victory. With so much fighting on my continent I spammed archaeologists to grab all the relics everywhere. I think I had 12 ish themed archaeology museums. To speed me up a little (I felt a little cheap) I bought some religious relics off of Egypt to fill in the few holy sites that I had inherited. It wasn't a game changer though. Ooooo I also lucked into the great scientist that gives 300% tourism from relics. I probably could have also won science victory before anyone else as well. The Dutch, The Ottomans, and I'm forgetting the other civs didn't stand a chance. Interesting side note - Mapuche had a great prophet that he never got a chance to use before I killed him so the game was missing a religion.
 
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