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How do I satisfy angry/sick people... in BTW

rladngus

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Hi! I've played 3 games now and not even once have I pleased an angry population... it was always (mostly) because the city was too crowded. How do I give them the space they want?

Also, most of the time there has been sick people: they were sick from "Flood Plains" (or something like that)... how do I solve this problem?
 
You can't actually "give people space" or get rid of the "sickness" (i.e. remove the red or green faces), but you have to make sure that the health and the happy faces outnumber the green and red faces (i.e. health>sick, happy>angry). To do this, you have several options, e.g. getting resources or building certain buildings. Look at the right of the food and the production bar in each city, there you see the current numbers.

I suggest you take a look at the manual as this is one of the most basic concepts and is explained well enough.
 
You can't actually "give people space" or get rid of the "sickness" (i.e. remove the red or green faces), but you have to make sure that the health and the happy faces outnumber the green and red faces (i.e. health>sick, happy>angry). To do this, you have several options, e.g. getting resources or building certain buildings. Look at the right of the food and the production bar in each city, there you see the current numbers.

I suggest you take a look at the manual as this is one of the most basic concepts and is explained well enough.

Thanks for your reply! And as for the manual... my friend (my math teacher as a matter of fact) gave me his Civ 4 copy without the manual as his Christmas present. I've been reading online guides ever since I started playing!
 
Thanks for your reply! And as for the manual... my friend (my math teacher as a matter of fact) gave me his Civ 4 copy without the manual as his Christmas present. I've been reading online guides ever since I started playing!

You really need to get your hands on it. Civ is a fairly complex game and there's alot to learn about it. It's going to be tough trying to learn as you go. However alot of the things will be covered in the Civilopedia. You can access it by hitting F12.
 
Use Slavery to rush buildings, keeping your population under control - build aqueducts for health, theaters and temples for happiness, etc.

Of course you have to research the Techs to get these, and therein lies the fun - before the AI/Barbarians come along and make it even more interesting!
 
Hi! I've played 3 games now and not even once have I pleased an angry population... it was always (mostly) because the city was too crowded. How do I give them the space they want?

Also, most of the time there has been sick people: they were sick from "Flood Plains" (or something like that)... how do I solve this problem?


You can get extra happy faces from getting resources like fur, wine, etc. Also, some buildings - like theaters and coliseums, help. Some civics - like hereditary rule or Representation or free religion, can increase your happiness. Heredity rule, for example, gives you more happiness the more military units you have in a city. Also, happiness comes from temple buildings, so the more religions and temples you have in your city the happier your people are.

Sick people're harder to deal with. Some resources, like sea food and deer, give health. Some buildings like aquaducts give you health. Some terrains - like you said, flood plains - are just disease ridden evilnesses that make your population sick. Forests inside your city radius also give health. Health is harder to get up then happiness, but at least sick people only require extra food. Angry people don't work at all!

You can certainly use slavery and whipping to keep your population down in the early game, below the point where there're too many angry faces. In fact, a really powerful tactic is to make a lot of farms around your cities so they grow fast, and whip them to death to get your buildings and units out really fast in the early game.

Also, specific leader traits.. like expansive (+2 health in all cities) and charismatic (+1 happy) work in your favor. There're wonders that work wonders, too! But I don't think I could list all the things you can do - the important thing to do if you don't have the manual is just spend a lot of time browsing through the in-game help. The civilopedia is not only helpful, it's interesting and fun to read! Read what's under your mouse; you'll get a feel for it all eventually.
 
i usually build theaters, temples, coloseums, etc for happines. As for health aquaducts, or get animals like pig cow deer etc
 
Just one point of advice, especially early game, happiness is more important than health. Health means the city isn't growing as fast, but unhappy citizens mean less productivity which equals less of everything!

I've only been playing civ for about 6 months, but this website is a great resource. It'll bring you up to speed in no time.
 
Thanks everyone for your assistance! I really appreciate it!
You can certainly use slavery and whipping to keep your population down in the early game, below the point where there're too many angry faces. In fact, a really powerful tactic is to make a lot of farms around your cities so they grow fast, and whip them to death to get your buildings and units out really fast in the early game.

As for whipping... How do I "whip" a population to death to boom my city productions? Then again, thanks a lot for your help!

And yeah, I'll try looking for a guide if there's one online... (I just can't seem to get it from my friend). Perhaps there's a .PDF file lying somewhere in the net with civ4 guides in it? :lol:
 
As for whipping... How do I "whip" a population to death to boom my city productions? Then again, thanks a lot for your help!

"Whipping" is the slang term for hurrying production by sacrificing population while under the Slavery civic.
 
I find that in the midgame, before Hospitals/Supermarkets and the three big entertainment wonders and Eiffel, you really need to get a lot of resources. Resource trading is crucial when you have size 15-20 cities and any war weariness or unhealthies from Forge/Floodplains.
 
I can't the article in the war room, but I remember reading a great article called "Whipping for fun and profit" or something along those lines.

A very basic way to use slavery to get rid of unhappy people is, say, you have 1 unhappy citizen, you use slavery to whip away 2 population. Boom. Problem gone and after X amount of turns when the slavery anger goes away, you can do it again and again. Slavery is a great civic :)
 
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