How to avoid "transcedental" game ending?

[Fraoch]

Hi there, first time poster, long time player!

Since I really concentrate on research, my games often end with the "transcendence" ending. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but it's something like when my "scientists are postulating the grand unified theory and come to realize why the universe exists at all".

The rest of the message says: "Competition is now unneccessary. You have won the game!"



While that's all fine and good, it's a little unpredictable when this happens.

As soon as I start developing Future Tech I change the extra citizens in my cities from scientists to entertainers and adjust the tax rate to take away from science. But I'd like to keep *some* science to develop some Future Tech to increase my score...

Have I got this right? Is this ending caused by "too much" science or is it something else? Is there a way to balance science output to avoid this premature ending but still develop Future Tech?

Thanks in advance for any responses!

EDIT: I'm using ToT, but in Original or Extended Original modes.

 

[dylandlr]

Hello and Welcome to CFC!

I play Civ2 Classic with the Gold patch and have never seen anything like that. Maybe it has something to do with the level of play?

However, when I do get to Future Techs I split between Elvii and Ensteins (about 3:1) and go for a high growth/decent science strategy to rack up points; although I have usually conquered or made it to AC long before this is possible.

Maybe there's Thoreau bug?

 

[Mercator]

He's talking about "Test of Time". Transcendence isn't in any other civ2 versions. It's part of the ToT Extended Original game...

But it looks like you need to install the Test of Time 1.1 patch: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ2downloads.shtml

And welcome, by the way, Fraoch! Enjoy your stay.

I'm not entirely sure about the details, but I know it's a bug. You're only supposed to "transcend" in the extended original game, after discovering the transcendence tech. The patch should fix this (though not in you're currently running games).

 

[Fraoch]

Thanks guys!

I'll get the patch now.

 

[Archer 007]

Good luck and stay around!

 

[Fraoch]

Hmm...well it turns out I actually had already installed the patch. I installed it again just to be sure.

I'm pretty sure this occurs when I play original games too, not just extended original...

 

[Mercator]

I was afraid you were gonna say that...

Just make sure you save your games in the right subfolder, and see if you still have the problem with your next game.

If that doesn't solve it... I guess the patch doesn't quite fix it.

 

[Fraoch]

I mostly play original games, and they get saved in the "Original" folder.

I do notice that Extended Original games get saved in the "Original" folder as well, not the "Extended Original" folder. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[BC Horizon]

Transcendence endings? All this new stuff? Wow.. .I didn't realize I'd been missing that much. I'll have to go get ToT next time I'm down at the shopping centre. MGE has nothing on this

 

[The Person]

Quite a lot of stuff I've missed... Maybe I should try ToT again...

 

[covok48]

"I'm pretty sure this occurs when I play original games too, not just extended original..."

I totally understand what you mean. I too have ToT and this happened 5 turns before my spaceship landed. ARGHHHH!