HRY2 - Jobless in Entremont

[Hooray]

Nice trading, ChrTh. Now we're not quite so pitifully behind.

Got it. I'll play this evening if possible. I'll see about drawing a crude dotmap too.

 

[ChrTh]

Nothing like a 5fer at the start of your turn to give you a warm fuzzy for the full ten
Yeah, the Aztecs researched it themselves, I'm sure. Lucky for us, although I would've tried to swing at least a 3fer even if they didn't have it.

BTW, DON'T TRADE THE WHEEL TO THE IROQUOIS!

 

[Generalissimo]

Here is a dot map I made. It's my first and I don't think I'm very good at city placement, but at least it will give everyone an idea.

The blue dots are American Cities and the dark green dot the Aztecs. Light greenish color is Us. The black, red, yellow, and purple are places that look good to me. Maybe put one between the black city and the yellow city, a little more south but that area is blacked out so I didn't make a dot there.

What do you think?

 

[ChrTh]

I think two things:
Keep the cities on the dotmap; it's too hard otherwise to distinguish.
Always show the grid when dotmapping

I guess I'd want to know more about what's directly south of the purple dot before committing to that spot.

 

[Generalissimo]

How do you make the grid on? I was fiddling around with that for a good ten minutes before making it.

 

[LKendter]

Originally posted by Generalissimo
How do you make the grid on? I was fiddling around with that for a good ten minutes before making it.

Control-G toggles the grid.

 

[Hooray]

THANK YOU, LKendter! I've actually been wanting to know that for ages.

Now I can try my hand at a dotmap without my lines being all skewed and uneven.

 

[Hooray]

The true king has finally ascended to his throne. He looks out upon his kingdom with pride. No wait, this feeling isn't pride. It's disgust! The king is displeased that the Celts are not the mightiest people in the world.
"I will never be satisfied until I have the greatest kingdom in the world!" he proclaims.
So he sets forth to build a great nation....

Pre-turn: I've decided to focus expansion to the West and South. Might toss a few cities up north to claim some of that jungle too.
Trade 110g to America for Literature.

1475 BC: Entremont Settler -> Settler
Switch Camulodunun to Worker.

1450: ......

1425: Horses connected. Yay.

1400: Verulamium found a little far off to grab some cattle and Ivory.
Gergovia founded.

1375: Alesia Worker -> Warrior
Switch Lugdunum to Worker.
120g and 1gpt to Zulu for Mathematics.

1350: Entremont Settler -> Settler
Lugdunum Worker -> Warrior
America starts GL

1325: America starts Pyramids.
Augustodorum founded in jungle to the north. As I had hoped, there are Gems in range!

1300: Get Forbidden Palace message.

1275: Ironborough Worker -> Warrior
Gergovia Warrior -> Barracks
India must be at war with someone since they've had a Worker sitting in their capital for a while. I'd buy the worker, but Ghandi has to be greedy and wants a tech for it.

1250: Entremont Settler -> Settler
Alesia Warrior -> Worker
Camulodunum Worker -> Temple

You may notice that I bought techs but traded them to no one else. All the civs except America and Zululand are very poor and behind in techs, so they have nothing to trade to us for our techs. America and the Zulus are still ahead by Philosophy and HBR.
We're growing pretty fast now, though, so we should start surpassing them in research once we have the chance to run full-fledged research again.

Map and proposed dotmap:

Ignore that question mark and arrow near Verulamium. I think I like the original dot better after all.

The Save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1250_AD.SAV

Generalissimo you're UP NOW.
Ville is ON DECK.

Build us a great empire, guys.

 

[Generalissimo]

Ok, here we go:

Pre-turn
After inspecting the fledling empire I notice that we are spending more on Lux than need be, and bring that back down to nil.

1 1225 BC:

Lugdunum builds a warrior. It is producing mainly food so I set it to build another worker and send the new warrior down south to explore.

2 1200 BC:

Augustodrum produces warrior and is set to build a spearman.
Korea starts The Oracle

3 1175 BC:

Moved a warrior onto a mountain in neutral territory with a road on it. I guess the Americans built it so I'll destroy it next turn.

4 1150 BC:

Workers hook up Dyes, so we should be good on happiness if Entermont keeps producing settlers for a while and no other cities get too large.

Speaking of which, Entermont builds a settler and is lined up to build another.

Also, workers hook up Iron. For you people who like war, we can now build Swordman and beat up some enemies. I send the workers who were building the Iron Road to Gergovia which is building a barracks now and is a good place to upgrade warriors in the future.

5 1125 BC:

Alesia builds worker, I tell it to start Settler.

I trade the Iroquois Math for Philosophy and 3 gold and then trade Math to the Indians for 16 gold, a map of their lands and Horse Back Riding. India only has three cities.

6 1100 BC:

snooze

7 1075 BC:

Agedincum founded on our southern frontier, builds warrior.

Between turns America threatens us! Maybe it heard that I was the one that ordered destroying their road. They want a territory map and 23 gold, which I gladly except. Now is not the time to fight and I gladly give over tribute. They remain polite

8 1050 BC:

Entermont produces Settler, put another one in the que.

Lugdunum makes worker, set to build Swordman.

9 1025 BC:

Gergovia Builds Barracks, set to build warrior

Eboracum settled, building warrior.

Aztecs are building The Oracle

10 1000 BC:

Not much. America are the only ones who have Construction... for now. They will not trade me anything for it. Too bad.

That's it for me.
The Save

 

[Harleqin]

Don't move too quickly now It'll be at least 60 hours before I can play again, so please.... take your time guys. Also, good job on getting those gems. Despite the good lands to our southwest I do think that we should send a few settlers into the jungle. There'll be rubber and coal there and once cleared the distance to the capital will make them very productive.

 

[Ville]

I'll play it when I'm back home. (I'm at school now, these computer lessons are booooooring )

 

[Ville]

Computer crashed after writing a detailed turnlog
Most important things: Burdigala founded, Cataractonium (even Aztec names are easier ), Lapurdum founded, traded with Koreans: got WM+MM+CoL? for Phil+Lit+WM+25 gold, traded with Aztecs: WM for TM (our TM). Polytheism researched>Constructon, 40 turns

Save

 

[Generalissimo]

Alright!

 

[Hooray]

I see a lot of map trading is going on. When did we get Map Making? Do we have it now?

Uh...let's see.... *hasn't memorized roster yet*

Builder - Generalissimo
Scientist - Ville
Diplomat - leha - UP NOW
Dominator - Harleqin - ON DECK
Conqueror - ChrTh
King - Hooray

 

[Ville]

I traded Mapmaking from Koreans

 

[Leha]

Got it !!!!

 

[Leha]

Preturn

Well , let's see. Aren't we gonna build The Great Library , Highness ? . Are we gonna do all the research by ourselves ? Sorry , I can't allow this to happen . Entremont switches to TGL , we have enough cities now to build settler army .

IBT

Nothing

1-730BC

Worker finishes irrigation --> starts road .
Settler directed north to horse and iron .
Get Construction from Zulu for Poly and 177 gold . Sell Construction to Iroquis for WM and 27 gold , trade WM to America for WM+30 gold , sell WM to everyone else .
Overall :
England --> Poly,Construction back.
Iroquois --> Poly back .
Korea --> Poly , Construction back .
Aztecs --> backward people .
India --> Poly ,Construction back .

IBT

Spot our settler moving south of Alesia . Turn him back north , there's nothing interesting in the south , no place left .

2-710BC

Move worker to the Ivory .
Highness , we could find a better place for our country . What's this ??!! Desert and jubgle , brrr .

IBT

nothing

3-690BC

I feel a strong urge to build some embassies ( after all I'm a diplomat ) and peek what are the chances we beat them on TGL .

IBT

Zzzzz.

4-670BC

Lapurdum warrior-->spearman .
No diplomatic achievements

B]IBT[/B]

5-650BC

I tried to convince this bully Shaka not to start war against America , knowing it can drag the whole continent into bloodshed , but he just don't listen .
Camulodunum ( God!!!) builds temple , starts worker .
Ivory hooked up .Shaka got Currency , we buy it for WM and 277 gold . Iroquois got Currency too , so we sell it to Americans for WM and 89 gold .


IBT



Aztecs declare war on America .



Salamanca finishes Oracle
Iroquois and aztecs are building Piramides .

6-630BC

We should be prepared to Zulu hords that will cross our country soon .

IBT

English and Koreans are building TGL and Pyramids .



7-610BC

Agedincum worker --> temple
Ironborough worker --> barracks .
Ratae Coritanorum ( Jesus !!!) founded .
Augustodurum worker --> GS .
I take risk of establishing embassy in Salamanca for 45 gold .
Pyramids are due in 32 turns . Good .


IBT

Nothing

8-590BC

Shuffle workers

Entremont gets size 7 --> lux slider 10% .

IBT

Nothing

8-590BC

Shuffle workers .
Entremont gets size 7 --> lux slider 10% .
Lizzy got Republic and she's annoyed with us . When I ask her what happened , she says she want to sell us republic for Poly , Construction ,Currency 386 gold and 17 gpt . I tell her she's pretty but I ain't gonna marry her

IBT

Korea declares war on Americans .



Jag warrior dies trying to take Chicago and to bring GA to his nation .

9-570BC

Gergovia GS - Spearman .
Sell poly to Korea for WM and 73 gold .
Lizzy wants too much for Rep .


Good I saved log in notepad . I got "too many images" message and everything was lost .
There was nothing serious in my last turn .
England declered war on Americans .
I think we should place city behind the lake with dye .

I had to eraze some images from post .

Our world :






Save

 

[Hooray]

Hah, dogpile on the Americans. That really helps us since they'll be our main competition in our half of the continent.

Can the next player try to get a city over near Ironborough north of Miami to grab those Furs? The King demands Furs.

As soon as we get into Monarchy or Republic, I think we should get involved in the America war and try to trigger our GA with our Gallic Swordmen.

 

[ChrTh]

Shaka got Currency , we buy it for WM and 277 gold . Iroquois got Currency too , so we sell it to Americans for WM and 89 gold

Did the Iroqi have Poly already? Why didn't you trade Poly to the Iroqi for Currency?

BTW, just a word of warning: Tenochtitlan will be where we put our Forbidden Palace :tank:

 

[Leha]

Originally posted by ChrTh


Did the Iroqi have Poly already? Why didn't you trade Poly to the Iroqi for Currency?

That's a trick . Turn before they were Poly behind , next turn they had Currency . I think THEY were the ones who got Currency and Zulus traded it for Poly and something IBT .