Humankind Game by Amplitude

[Boris Gudenuf]

I’ll be honest, although I’m pleased about Ancient Era replacing Bronze Era, I’m not entirely convinced by the term “Early Modern”.

It just feels clunky and out of place among the other single-word titles, being inconsistent with the otherwise established naming convention. Furthermore, the inclusion of an “Early Modern Era” feels as though it should necessitate the existence of a “Late Modern Era” as well.

I appreciate that “Early Modern” is probably the correct term used by historians, but personally I think “Exploration Era”, “Enlightenment Era”, “Renaissance Era”, or “Colonial Era” work a lot better, and would be less confusing to the masses.

I can understand the concern about the difference between "Early Modern" and all the other single-word Era titles, but all the alternatives you suggest require that Factions be Exploring, Colonizing, or going through a Renaissance or Enlightenment. That cannot be guaranteed in any game, unless the game artificially Forces Factions into Exploration or Colonization (All Terra Maps?) or into a Renaissance or Enlightenment. That as certainly not true IRL or historically, and to do so simply produces another Fantasy Game.

"Early Modern" is the most common term for the period 1500 - 1750 CE or so used today amongst historians of the period, and the Age of Reason and Age of Enlightenment are considered to cover only a fraction of it (roughly, the late 17th, to late 18th centuries)

"Late Modern", a possibility for the period after "Early Modern", is usually considered to be 1750 to, roughly, the beginning of the 'Contemporary' or 'Post-Modern' period after 1970 - 1973. That means, by the ay, that to the modern Historian, the Industrial Era or Industrial Revolution takes place in the Late Modern Era, which is much better than having it be its own separate Era, since countries industrialized at wildly different times ranging from 1750 to 1990 and later.

 

[conorbebe]

"Late Modern", a possibility for the period after "Early Modern", is usually considered to be 1750 to, roughly, the beginning of the 'Contemporary' or 'Post-Modern' period after 1970 - 1973. That means, by the ay, that to the modern Historian, the Industrial Era or Industrial Revolution takes place in the Late Modern Era, which is much better than having it be its own separate Era, since countries industrialized at wildly different times ranging from 1750 to 1990 and later.

I'd definitely feel more comfortable about it if the Industrial Era was renamed to "Late Modern".

 

[Uberfrog]

I'd definitely feel more comfortable about it if the Industrial Era was renamed to "Late Modern".

I feel it is problematic and confusing to have a Late Modern period that ends before the, er... modern day.

 

[Siptah]

I feel it is problematic and confusing to have a Late Modern period that ends before the, er... modern day.

Aren‘t we already post-modern in the modern day though?

 

[conorbebe]

Aren‘t we already post-modern in the modern day though?

And this is why I think using the term "modern" to refer to any period of time other than the present day is silly. The word "modern" is literally derived from the Latin "modo" meaning "now". It's synonymous with "contemporary"...

On an unrelated note, does anyone else find it odd that we haven't had a new Feature Focus for 3 weeks now?

 

[Uberfrog]

Aren‘t we already post-modern in the modern day though?

Some people argue this, and it’s an interesting academic debate.

To non-historians however, and I include myself here, I think it seems quite confusing. To a layman Post-modernism is too much associated with a particular artistic movement to feel like an accurate descriptor for the current time period.

Outside an academic audience, modern means, well... now.

 

[Prester John 2]

In German academia and every day speech we distinguish between modern and moderne (modernity) that equals from 19th century onwards and Neuzeit (1500s till today) and Frühe Neuzeit (early new time =1500s to 1700s).

 

[Siptah]

On an unrelated note, does anyone else find it odd that we haven't had a new Feature Focus for 3 weeks now?

I think the first dev diary video was released on a Friday, so we might see one today. I certainly hope for it.

 

[WillowBrook]

I think the first dev diary video was released on a Friday, so we might see one today. I certainly hope for it.

Nice prediction!

 

[conorbebe]

I think the first dev diary video was released on a Friday, so we might see one today. I certainly hope for it.

It actually wasn't, but you were correct nonetheless!

 

[Siptah]

I know that Amplitude did not stick to an exact time with their Tuesday reveals, but I am still wondering why today's reveal that might tell us if Huns or Han are in the game did not happen yet? I know that France is in kind of a "war state" but I thought that the Amplituders might still work, just from home. I hope everybody's okay.

 

[FinalDoomsday]

I was wondering that too, given the circumstances its understandable to go quiet but I guessed they had these culture cards all done and ready and were just dropping them every tuesday.

 

[Jkchart]

Well...not today I guess

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Probably Thursday then. But who knows? Everything is messed up right now.

 

[conorbebe]

Wow, what a tease!

I joke. Hope everyone at Amplitude is okay at this difficult time.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Wow, what a tease!

I joke. Hope everyone at Amplitude is okay at this difficult time.

They are still working, at least yesterday, because they responded to posts on the games2gether site. How many of them are working or how much they are getting done is another question, and one that could be asked in almost every field right now.

Except for those of us who are already retired and working from home anyway - the only problem I have is that the spring Allergy Season has started up here in the Great Pacific Northwest so virus or no virus I'm going to be sniffling and sneezing for the next two months!

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

There it is. It's the Huns.

 

[conorbebe]

Let's get down to business!

 

[Jkchart]

Interesting that we are getting the Huns! Not against it. Everything here seems in order though: Militarist, a mobile "Hunnic Horde" cavalry. I find the use of Ordu for the Huns in HK quite interesting since it is the Mongolian Civ VI building, but no matter!

 

[j51]

So the Huns and no Han. I wonder who that picture of the dudes playing Go represents? Maybe Silla, or could Qin be in? They did say that they like including short-lived but influential empires.