Humankind Game by Amplitude

[FinalDoomsday]

Nice to see Franks new artwork, No word on English though.

 

[Narcisse]

They said than they checked feedbacks. So we can expect some changes and fix. On English, Ming fashion (wrong clothings), the sword of the cuirassier, the floating gold umbrella of the venetian ship, the raptor hand and floating book of the byzantine lady

They arleady totally changed the Franks and Greek one, and some fix on Nubian one

 

[ehecatzin]

But I don't understand why just not go with Iranians, which is a right word, and totally fit with Qajar period.

Maybe they are doing it so that they can later add Iran on contemporary?

 

[Narcisse]

maybe yes. I don't really expect it. Another possibility, if another Persia is added one day : Achaemenid Persians > Safavid Persians > Persians. I guess it work well too.

 

[Krajzen]

maybe yes. I don't really expect it. Another possibility, it's easier now to add later : Achaemenid Persians > Safavid Persians > Persians. I suppose it work well too.

Indo Aryans (nomadic militarist) ->
Achaemenid Persians (expansionist) ->
Samanid Persians (scientific) ->
Safavid Persians (aestethe) ->
Persians (builder)

20th century Iran I'd gladly skip, although fun fact, the current speed of scientific development in Iran is so awesome that IIRC it 15th country in the world by the amount of scientific publications:

Spoiler :

So maybe Humankind 4 will give them Scientist affinity by then

 

[CivLuvah]

Imgur album updated to include Industrial-era Persians/Qajars

https://imgur.com/a/4cPjGSY

 

[CivLuvah]

the raptor hand and floating book of the byzantine lady

Someone out there is going to cook up a conspiracy theory that the Byzantine elite were the first to be replaced by the reptilians.

 

[Krajzen]

Someone out there is going to cook up a conspiracy theory that the Byzantine elite were the first to be replaced by the reptilians.

I'd respect conspiracy theories slightly more if they were clever enough to incorporate such exotic historical lands and display general knowledge of global history.

Indo Aryans (nomadic militarist) ->
Achaemenid Persians (expansionist) ->
Samanid Persians (scientific) ->
Safavid Persians (aestethe) ->
Persians (builder)

20th century Iran I'd gladly skip, although fun fact, the current speed of scientific development in Iran is so awesome that IIRC it 15th country in the world by the amount of scientific publications:

Spoiler :

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So maybe Humankind 4 will give them Scientist affinity by then

I just wanted to ask, how viable does the idea of ancient Indo - Aryan culture seems to you? Nobody has ever suggested something like that in games like this (well, not that surprising in the case of civ, as there is no leader possible at all - beyond Zoroaster?). And it seems very cool to me, much cooler than Elam as an ancient link of Iranian civilization. It would also, in fact, be a shared link with Indian cultures.

Make them nomadic. Militarist. Unique units is noble warrior champion on the sun chariot, and such is the image. Or alternatively, very early possible unit of Iranian horseman. Unique quarter can be whatever, for example qanat, very cool Underground system of irrigation used by ancient Iranian peoples. Some cool quote referring Zoroaster and Vedic India.

 

[SagarRathore]

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I just wanted to ask, how viable does the idea of ancient Indo - Aryan culture seems to you? Nobody has ever suggest yu oped something like that in games like this (well, not that surprising in the case of civ, as there is no leader possible at all - beyond Zoroaster?). And it seems very cool to me, much cooler than Elam as an ancient link of Iranian civilization. It would also, in fact, be a shared link with Indian cultures.

Being an Indian,I will love Indo-Aryan Culture but I think here what u mean is earlier Indo-Iranian Culture from which Iranian & Indo-Aryan Branched off.
I think we have better chance to get later Iranian culture than Indo-Iranian as we know more about them thru Avesta & other sources.
Regarding Unique Quarter,the best option is of Fire Altars. Fire worship plays very important role in both Zoroastrian & Vedic Culture.
I think Vishtaspa would be a very cool choice as Iranian leader.

 

[8housesofelixir]

I think we have better chance to get later Iranian culture than Indo-Iranian as we know more about them thru Avesta & other sources.

This does make me wish we can have Sogdians in the future - they were Iranians as well, and they were a crucial part of the Silk Road.

 

[Zaarin]

(well, not that surprising in the case of civ, as there is no leader possible at all - beyond Zoroaster?)

Zoroaster wasn't Indo-Aryan. He wasn't even Proto-Iranian. While the exact nature of the people who spoke Avestan isn't clear, we can say with reasonable certainty he lived in Afghanistan and spoke an Eastern Iranian language (that it's pretty much universally agreed is not ancestral to Pashto, older linguistic literature and Pashtun nationalist narratives notwithstanding).

This does make me wish we can have Sogdians in the future - they were Iranians as well, and they were a crucial part of the Silk Road.

A thousand times this. TBH I think they'd do fine in Civ, but if I can't have them in Civ I'd at least love to have them in Humankind.

 

[8housesofelixir]

A thousand times this. TBH I think they'd do fine in Civ, but if I can't have them in Civ I'd at least love to have them in Humankind.

I personally find them more a fit in Humankind after had an clearer idea about the concept of "Culture" in Humankind: Sogdians didn't have long city list for 30 cities, didn't have a common leader, reached their zenith in one Era, and could doing fine even as a vassal.

The Sogdians were constantly someone else's vassal (Hephthalites', Göktürks', Tang's, Abbasid's), but most of their fames were gathered in this vassalage period - one can play as a vassal and win in Humankind, but cannot do that in Civ (currently).

 

[Zaarin]

I personally find them more a fit in Humankind after had an clearer idea about the concept of "Culture" in Humankind: Sogdians didn't have long city list for 30 cities, didn't have a common leader, reached their zenith in one Era, and could doing fine even as a vassal.

The Sogdians were constantly someone else's vassal (Hephthalites', Göktürks', Tang's, Abbasid's), but most of their fames were gathered in this vassalage period - one can play as a vassal and win in Humankind, but cannot do that in Civ (currently).

I think Oxyartes would be fine for a leader (no need to split hairs about whether he was Bactrian or Sogdian), but I don't disagree that they fit the Humankind model well.

 

[CivLuvah]

Imgur album updated to include the new Franks culture card artwork:

https://imgur.com/a/4cPjGSY

 

[ehecatzin]

Imgur album updated to include the new Franks culture card artwork:

https://imgur.com/a/4cPjGSY

Man I don't want to beat a dead horse, but seing both cards side by side, I really hope they rework the English art as well, it even looks unfinished in comparison. If they push the idea of a medieval feast for the English with the same level of detail as the Franks it would be awesome.

 

[CivLuvah]

Imgur album updated to include the Russians:

https://imgur.com/a/4cPjGSY

 

[CivLuvah]

Imgur album updated to include the Siamese (Thai):

https://imgur.com/a/4cPjGSY

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

Anybody track an "all elephant" progression, yet? Do we have an elephant unit culture in each era? And if so, who gets elephants for the modern era ...

 

[Narcisse]

Anybody track an "all elephant" progression, yet? Do we have an elephant unit culture in each era? And if so, who gets elephants for the modern era ...

I don't think there will be an elephant in contemporary era. I never expected it personally. And from the recent units tree poster (from Deluxe Edition promotional images), we made some speculations on the blurry paths. And elephant unit branch seems to stop in industrial era.
I can totally expect a camel unit in contemporary era. I don't say it will happen, but it is a possibility. It's a long time we didn't see one since Ghana.

 

[Siptah]

I‘m sure there is a grey tank in the contemporary era that can be seen as a spiritual successor of an elephant unit. What‘s the difference, really? If we have mechanical infantry as infantry unit, we might just go with mechanical elephant ...