I feel like I'm missing some elements of the game

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Matth3w

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Two things that I think I might not be using properly are my luxury resources like cotton etc and city states, and the issue might be intertwined.. how can I best use the resources and relations with city states? Can I build a road to them?

I am trying to trade with other nations but they always blow me off. I'm playing Americans on Epic with Domination only victory...and just by the luck of the draw I have a TON of resources.
 
are my luxury resources like cotton etc
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You can sell or trade the excess to other civs. You can't use them to city states.

Resources don't need roads to be connected, roads are only needed to connect cities.

Building a road to a city state has no purpose except to fulfill a quest that they might give you (and movement bonus). So in general its not worth it.

To get resources from a city state, you must be its ally (from donating gold, or fulfilling quests). No need for a road connection.

If other nations don't want to trade, its probably because of something you've done (bad reputation or aggression). I normally have no difficulty getting 1:1 luxury resource trades with other civs (as long as they have a spare copy: if they only have one copy they will want 2-3+ resources in exchange for their 1).
 
Sometimes I realize that when they have like 180 gold and you ask "What will you give me for this" for a luxury resource they say that it ain't possible.

But when you then propose 180 for the resource manually they give the gold and thank you for it because it is under value for them.
 
In my current game, Montezuma was always fair and equitable to trade with. Washington, not so much. I think it had to do with a "pact of secrecy" I reneged on earlier.

I've found that city-states can be a huge benefit if you can stay their ally. I liberated a couple of them, and they're allies for a long, long time. Good for luxury resources (and strategic also).
 
Matth3w said:
Well what about single resources?
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I don't understand what you mean. A single copy of a luxury resource gives you 5 happiness. A second copy does nothing.

Strategic resources do nothing except enable you to build/maintain stuff that requires them, they have no other passive effect.

Wrong, the number of units of a strategic resource you have directly determines the number of buildings/military units that need the resource you can build.
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How is that wrong? IF you build stuff, you're *using* them, and they're not excess.
They have no passive effect from ones you aren't using. Being +10 oil doesn't give you some kind of economic bonus, or whatever.
 
Genoa asked me to build a road to connect them to my capital, so I started building it. But when I got within a hex of their city, he had units parked on every tile and wouldnt move them. My worker couldnt move into those hexes, so I just said screw it and moved my worker back.
 
Rathelon said:
Genoa asked me to build a road to connect them to my capital, so I started building it. But when I got within a hex of their city, he had units parked on every tile and wouldnt move them. My worker couldnt move into those hexes, so I just said screw it and moved my worker back.
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They should finish/start the road on their end. I've never had to send my worker into their border when doing this quest.
 
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