I might actually not buy CivIV
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vbraun
Raytracing
I think this better fits into the "Are you going to buy CivIV?" Poll. 
You could always pick it up a couple years after it comes out.
You could always pick it up a couple years after it comes out.
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
My heart bleeds.
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ThePersian
Warlord
lalalalalalala
i am not hearing this
i am not hearing this
shady milkman
eternal
I feel ya man...maybe. For some reason I feel like Civ III is the real civ, since it seems like more people play Civ III than ever before. I guess if it has a good editor and it gets really good reviews I might get it.
Meleager
Stoned as a Statue
Ha! You are not a true civ fanatic! Cast the heritic out of our mist! Mods ban him before he spreads his evil posion! 
You never know, civ4 might revive the series for some time. But I suppose that it is natural for things to get old over time.
You never know, civ4 might revive the series for some time. But I suppose that it is natural for things to get old over time.
Xia
Warlord
Its your choice, but if you ask me, games like Civ dont wear away, Civ's one of those games you KNOW will still be popular in 20-30 years
eaglefox
Chhatrapati
20-30 years is a long time. what if something way better comes out by then. i would actually have preferred Rome - Total War, had it been better with city management, trade options, and had it been more generic like Civ 3. IMO, these three qualities let Civ still be at top even after RTW was released (although IMO, civ 3's trading system needs a major upgrade. otherwise, rome-total war is leaps and bounds ahead of civ in many aspects like graphics, warfare, even the leaders have their own personality which add a cool dimension to the game. you can have a leader like caeser, or napoleon, elizabeth, or even hitler. it all depends on how you use the characters and how they shape up. and yes, they do die and get replaced by other characters, and the whole cycle starts again. you guys will have to try it to believe it.Xia said:
what if the trend changes and strategy games lose their appeal. you can never know. although i think civ 4 will do good, it might not do as good as civ 3 did. the developers might have to rely on the expansions even more than they did for civ 3. and the next releases like civ 5 may be total flops for all we know. in any case, i am not going to buy it at least for a year till i get some decent and well supported reviews of this game. i don't have money to throw away. i bought civ 3 last year on boxing day - the complete edition, and it cost me 50 bucks Canadian. So I am going to wait for the expansions to come out. till then, i think i'll have plenty of other stuff to do. and i might even stick with civ 3 a bit longer since i bought it late. not to say i am not a fan, this is the best strategy game ever, that's why i bought it, but civ 4 has to be special in its own way and not just some addition to the civ family.
CurtSibling
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shady milkman said:
In other words, you follow the herd and play what you are told to play?
Good.
All the cool people will play CIV4. And I suggest you do too.
I'm too eager to test new 3D civ so I'm not going to miss it at any price.
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
If your broke get it for X-Mas. I'm sure a relative will oblige.
And YOU MUST PLAY IT, YOU CAN NOT RESIST THE POWER OF THE CIV.
As for the look of it, well given that none of us have actually tried the game to see how the 'look' works we can not give real judgement yet.
And YOU MUST PLAY IT, YOU CAN NOT RESIST THE POWER OF THE CIV.
As for the look of it, well given that none of us have actually tried the game to see how the 'look' works we can not give real judgement yet.
Janos
Prince
I don't get why people feel the need to post that they "aren't going to buy this game" on a forum for fans of the game... like anyone cares.
But still, good luck finding a better and more emersing strategy game - you'll be hard pressed to find one anytime soon that will overcome Civ IV.
But still, good luck finding a better and more emersing strategy game - you'll be hard pressed to find one anytime soon that will overcome Civ IV.
Gandhi will be generous to weaker nations, while the Khan will shy away from any diplomacy at all. If you do not play by your Civilization's leaders, they might get upset with you. For example, if you play aggressively with Gandhi, he might get angry. They key is playing by their styles. Traits also depend on leaders, rather than Civilizations. Each leader will have unique traits and bonuses Ideological conflicts are a definite possibility as a result of the AI leader personalities and their ties to certain religions or civics.
I to may not buy Civ4 and one big reason is one of the above. I really hated in the Civ3 when after stupid mistake whole game was war war war..... nobody made agreements whit me and everything was so tied up early on. In MTW (medieval total war) There is good system whit leaders and you dont have to look at one leaders face all the time. to me civ games has a lot of potential but it never has been in my computer more than 1month
I to may not buy Civ4 and one big reason is one of the above. I really hated in the Civ3 when after stupid mistake whole game was war war war..... nobody made agreements whit me and everything was so tied up early on. In MTW (medieval total war) There is good system whit leaders and you dont have to look at one leaders face all the time. to me civ games has a lot of potential but it never has been in my computer more than 1month
troytheface
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hafta agree there- noticed a few mentioning Rome and Medevil Total war series - the graphics on the battle scenes are miles ahead of what Civ offered...
I suspect that besides some old hands that will pine away for the game
(and even here they too will fall away as marriage and other concerns come to the forefront) newer gamers will find other historical venues that offer much more in the realm of action, realism and fun.
The selling and reselling of the franchise is a dead give away- the combining of companies is oft times touted as "Now we are bigger than ever" but this has happened in the past with other companies - a gathering before the fall- threw my disk away - time to move on ....how does one "demember" themselves off of here?
I suspect that besides some old hands that will pine away for the game
(and even here they too will fall away as marriage and other concerns come to the forefront) newer gamers will find other historical venues that offer much more in the realm of action, realism and fun.
The selling and reselling of the franchise is a dead give away- the combining of companies is oft times touted as "Now we are bigger than ever" but this has happened in the past with other companies - a gathering before the fall- threw my disk away - time to move on ....how does one "demember" themselves off of here?
Janos
Prince
To the above two posters - this isn't Medieval Total War or Rome Total War. Rome's AI was appalling, and fell way below expectations.
troytheface
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yes- the non discovery of terrrain (exploration) and the god awful balance and ai made civ3 preferable to me in the long run- however i suggest that within this genre there will come a resolution to those problems
Janos
Prince
Oh totally, i think that after Civ IV is released, there will be some more really innovative games coming out for the genre. However i still think Civ IV will be a major player in the genre for years to come.
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
NOOO!!! MAKE THEM STOP!!! MAKE THEM STOP!!! GET THE SECRET POLICE ON THEM!!! THEY'RE FORMING AN ANTI-CIV CULT!!!
But seriously. For a game you have to look beyond sound and graphics. This game has so much to offer, from what I've read. And just face it, to sign up to a sight called civfanatics, and say you don't like the YET UNRELEASED game, because of graphics, it seems like you're taking the mick.
But seriously. For a game you have to look beyond sound and graphics. This game has so much to offer, from what I've read. And just face it, to sign up to a sight called civfanatics, and say you don't like the YET UNRELEASED game, because of graphics, it seems like you're taking the mick.
eaglefox
Chhatrapati
i am not saying that i don't like civ 4; i said that it'll do pretty good. all i said was Rome - Total War had much more to offer in certain areas like warmaking, leaders and their families, diplomacy, and even graphics, but failed in areas like trading, the fact that there is only one scenario and a few historical battles unlike civ 3 which is generic and therefore has many more options, and empire management which was very poor in Rome - Total War. I did like civ 3 better than RTW, but civ 4 might have better and more advanced competition than what civ 3 had and might not end up being as big as civ 3.
and for those people who say that waiting for reviews is playing what others tell you to play - in the end i am going to play what i want to play, but I have had some bad experiences with buying games that didn't turn out to be good enough that i feel i just don't have free cash lying around in my house to spend on this one. an no I am not a Christian, I don't celebrate Christmas -don't need to.
and for those people who say that waiting for reviews is playing what others tell you to play - in the end i am going to play what i want to play, but I have had some bad experiences with buying games that didn't turn out to be good enough that i feel i just don't have free cash lying around in my house to spend on this one. an no I am not a Christian, I don't celebrate Christmas -don't need to.
