I might actually not buy CivIV

[HourlyDaily]

True civ has a much broader focus than war, this is why the trade and diplomacy need to be further improved on. And the cultural aspect as a route to victory, and specialised cities....well it looks pretty good that the military focus is no longer the only guaranteed way to win... I think. Covering an awful lot of old ground there.

 

[Janos]

I play civ 3 for the combat, not the cultural or diplomatic crap. Civ 4's simplified ccombat is making me think about quitting civ.

So wait... you play a turn based strategy game, which focuses on building an empire, managing an empire, and maintaining an empire - which combat is only one aspect of. If combat is all you are interested in, then why are you playing a game which many people would argue that the focus is NOT on making "an uber combat system", but on experiencing history unfold in different ways and on maintaining the evolution of a civilization through the ages?

Surely Rome: Total War, or an RTS like Age of Empires III (which looks rather good if i'm honest... i love that series), would better suit your needs? I'm not slating you, or trying to get into an argument, i'm just curious as to why you would pick a game which has always had a very very basic and ungraphical (is that even a word?) combat system to supply you with your lust for combat? It seems an odd choice.

And if anything, Civ IV's combat is much more complicated - what with the different unit types being effective in a group to get rid of the "army stack of death" crap and the like. I'm looking forward to the Civ IV combat system to be honest, and don't think it will be oversimplfied or poor. My two cents .

 

[Xia]

So wait... you play a turn based strategy game, which focuses on building an empire, managing an empire, and maintaining an empire - which combat is only one aspect of. If combat is all you are interested in, then why are you playing a game which many people would argue that the focus is NOT on making "an uber combat system", but on experiencing history unfold in different ways and on maintaining the evolution of a civilization through the ages?

Surely Rome: Total War, or an RTS like Age of Empires III (which looks rather good if i'm honest... i love that series), would better suit your needs? I'm not slating you, or trying to get into an argument, i'm just curious as to why you would pick a game which has always had a very very basic and ungraphical (is that even a word?) combat system to supply you with your lust for combat? It seems an odd choice.

And if anything, Civ IV's combat is much more complicated - what with the different unit types being effective in a group to get rid of the "army stack of death" crap and the like. I'm looking forward to the Civ IV combat system to be honest, and don't think it will be oversimplfied or poor. My two cents .

I agree, why would someone ever buy a strategy game for battle when there are so many other ways you an win, there are better games for conquest and such out there

 

[eaglefox]

i actually like to be more diplomatic. unfortunately, civ 3 did not give me what i wanted in terms of the treaties and trade agreements. civ 4 has to have much better trading system, many more diplomacy options, a more role playing UN (better than what they had in alpla centauri), and a much enhanced combat system. all these areas are pretty basic even in civ 3. there is no complexity whatsoever. that's is why i am going to wait patiently for the reviews before jumping into something. i might even wait for a expansion to come out.

 

[henry k c]

Then you have never played the game of Civilization.

Being nice to the AI and giving them gifts in hope that they will vote for you isn't as fun as declaring war and razing their cities.

 

[Xia]

Being nice to the AI and giving them gifts in hope that they will vote for you isn't as fun as declaring war and razing their cities.

It all depends on who's playing the game, I bet GW Bush would agree with you though

 

[HourlyDaily]

More like the rest of the world hopes for gifts and table scraps like FTA's with GW Bush so we have to join in declaring war and razing cities. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Seriously, if the diplomatic victory option is not improved, they should just get rid of it.

 

[vbraun]

Being nice to the AI and giving them gifts in hope that they will vote for you isn't as fun as declaring war and razing their cities.

Diplomatic is not the only possibly peaceful victory. And I wasn't reffering to the game.

 

[henry k c]

Oh, btw the reason i'm not quitting civ is because I don't have cash to buy rome total war. And I have never won by diplomatic means ever.

 

[Phoenix_56721]

I predict Civ. 4 will be the biggest and best Civ. Game of all times! Why? Because it’s going to appeal to more people then Civ.3 did with its improved graphics and interface. It will have a better Multiplayer mode with many options for game limits. It will be the most modded strategy game ever released to date. But that might just be the reason some die hard fans might not like it, because it might become more RTS’ish then some fans can handle. But in terms of sales, it will do very well.

 

[Pounder]

I predict Civ. 4 will be the biggest and best Civ. Game of all times! Why? Because it’s going to appeal to more people then Civ.3 did with its improved graphics and interface. It will have a better Multiplayer mode with many options for game limits. It will be the most modded strategy game ever released to date. But that might just be the reason some die hard fans might not like it, because it might become more RTS’ish then some fans can handle. But in terms of sales, it will do very well.

I think you may be right and that is why I'm not going to buy it right away, I will monitor CFC for a while and see what the feedback is. In addition I may need to buy a new computer to play this game as my current computer may is borderline to the specs required.

 

[confused713]

The system requirements is the only thing that will keep me from buying this game. You lovers of RTS (not intended to be a put down) should not expect Civ to follow that format. The Civ game system is what brings the true fanatic back for more even when it can frustrate at times. This game will be played by me up 'til the time they "pry my cold dead finger from" the keyboard and mouse.

 

[Alpine Trooper]

My loyalty is with Civilization II and Alpha Centauri. I still think the vast majority of people on this forum are in denial that Call To Power was ahead of its time and is still has a step ahead on Civilization III. Yes, I know they're not the "same".

I never really got attracted to Civilization III, especially after Play the World debuted with more bugs then a rotting corpse. But I still respect the game.

Civilization IVs graphics to me are disappointiing and the game appears confusing and lackluster. I can't say I'd buy it.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I say we can't judge a game from it's screenshots. Personally, I hope to own the first copy of CIV in northern Canada.

 

[Xia]

Im probably not gonna get Civ 4 the day it comes out, Im still trying to scrape money together to get a new kkeyboard.