i need serious help because i suck bad part 2

[jake2007]

k ill take the above advice and go for the beautiful isabella first

 

[jake2007]

should i attack now?

 

[jake2007]

isabella is slightly higher than me on the power graph

 

[jake2007]

im kind of weary of attacking actually because her cities are probably giveing a 60% defense bonus i think ill lose.

 

[jake2007]

sorry for posting like 7 times in a row but i have another update.



hopefully im playing good so far on my own. any opinions?

 

[cabert]

i made a fairly large circle around my city no horses in sight.

you cannot see horses until you have researched animal husbandry, which should have been your first tech

I come too late obviously, I see you have a stack of axemen.
add 1 spear to this and go, but don't stop building units, you will lose them (at least a good deal of them) in the fight.

 

[jake2007]

i think i did research it i just didnt make a big enough circle i guess

 

[cabert]

i think i did research it i just didnt make a big enough circle i guess

there is an easy way to know for sure if researched it or not.
can you pasture the cows?

edit : you have AH, and there are horses to the wet (next to silver, copper and dye).
build a settler and an escort and grab them
PS : It's 500 AD and you're researching paper already, so horses aren't going to be THAT useful. Too late for an early rush.
Time to get catapults and macemen.

 

[Jet]

The move of the initial settler 1 NE was not bad. 1NE could have made an outstanding cottage capital, and it had plenty of food and production to build the first few units.

 

[jake2007]

i will update my game in a little while for those that care

 

[xanadux]

The move of the initial settler 1 NE was not bad. 1NE could have made an outstanding cottage capital, and it had plenty of food and production to build the first few units.

Assuming you can tell from the tile border what the tiles immediately surrounding the initial 9 are ... moving NE trades:

4 plains hills
1 grassland hill
2 desert hills
1 flood plain
1 forest (the grassland underneath is gained, but another grassland is lost, so even trade)

for:

1 plain
5 unknown riverside tiles (could be plains or floodplains, or grassland, but plains are most likely)
2 unknown tiles likely not riverside.

If you scout first, you will find out that you are only gaining 1 flood plain and trading all the hills for plains. In hind sight the iron is nice, but you wouldn't know it is there when you settle, and 1 iron isn't worth losing 6 hills. And with the info you would have, 1 more flood plain isn't worth losing the hill production.

Staying in place gives enough food if you cottage all the non hills that you can Either run cottages for high commerce, or FP cottages with 5 of the hills.

I guess if you don't think a high production available early in the capital is as valuable as having 18 or 19 cottages in the industrial era, then you are right. In my opinion the option of getting high production is too valuable for a potential commerce benefit around size 15. I'm not saying you are definitely wrong, but pointing out the trade-offs of moving.

 

[hwynboy]

i will update my game in a little while for those that care

I Care, I am learning with you. I actually won my first noble game without space race after following orion's thread last week.

My only question for those that can pitch in and I am a bit late with this but, why did he not settle one SW with his opening settler? settling on the hill gives a good defense bonus while still keeping the hills in play for mines....and there are still Floodplain tiles to work as well. It's what I would have done...is that a bad play?

Thanks to everyone contributing.