Balderstrom
Emperor
I have an old game running, where I took over an AI's City. The AI's workers built watermills on river ice tiles, yet my workers cannot...?
Ice Tiles + River
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Balderstrom
Emperor
Heh, this is a late game. Well into the Modern era. I could not rebuild the watermills in the same place after the AI bombed the improvements.
r_rolo1
King of myself
What does the game says when you hover the watermill icon?
Supr49er
2011 Thunderfall Cup
Yes, do you have a screenshot or save?
jray
King
There are two possible factors here:
1. Does the tile have an entire side adjacent to a river, or does the river just cut across a corner? If the latter, then it's not eligible for a watermill.
2. Placement of watermills is rather glitchy. If a tile has multiple river sides, then a watermill will be attached (seemingly arbitrarily, although someone please correct me if I'm wrong) to one of the sides. Then the tile opposite this river *might* become ineligible for a watermill, even if that second tile has other sides with rivers. This is because the second tile might try to put its watermill on the same river portion as the other tile did and give up prematurely without checking other sides. I think it's a bug in the code.
In any case, I just take care of this problem by using the Reminder mod to give a worker an 18-turn nap and then enter the Worldbuilder to put the goddamn watermill there myself when he wakes up
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1. Does the tile have an entire side adjacent to a river, or does the river just cut across a corner? If the latter, then it's not eligible for a watermill.
2. Placement of watermills is rather glitchy. If a tile has multiple river sides, then a watermill will be attached (seemingly arbitrarily, although someone please correct me if I'm wrong) to one of the sides. Then the tile opposite this river *might* become ineligible for a watermill, even if that second tile has other sides with rivers. This is because the second tile might try to put its watermill on the same river portion as the other tile did and give up prematurely without checking other sides. I think it's a bug in the code.
In any case, I just take care of this problem by using the Reminder mod to give a worker an 18-turn nap and then enter the Worldbuilder to put the goddamn watermill there myself when he wakes up
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Balderstrom
Emperor
@ JRAY hehehe, yeah I guess I can do that. I have a savegame, was about to go resume that map after I finish the warlords game I'm in the middle of. Have been away from CIV for a while
So will check it again when I reinstall BTS and BUG mod.
So will check it again when I reinstall BTS and BUG mod.
Balderstrom
Emperor
Thats the thing, since some of the watermills were destroyed I haven't been able to build anything there except forts... I had started to think you couldn't build anything on Ice that didn't have a resource or a hill. But wondered how the AI did then.
Since I've noticed in the Warlords game you can't build cottages on Tundra either -- which seems completely arbitrary.
Since I've noticed in the Warlords game you can't build cottages on Tundra either -- which seems completely arbitrary.
BalbanesBeoulve
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You can build cottages on tundra that has access to fresh water.
Balderstrom
Emperor
Yeah, but then I'd just build a farm so it could support another pop.
That area in question has fur, tundra and Ice mostly. Every game I've seen fur its almost always in areas that can't support a city at all, or even work the tile to gain the commerce from it. Whereas a deer can support the population to work it: +2F w/ camp.
I'm almost (almost) inclined to change Fur: +1F,+4C; Deer: +2F,+1C. I just hate game balance changes. Then at least if the resource is on the fringes of civilization it would only take 1 grassland farm to support working the tile & 2 farms if the fur was on ice.
That area in question has fur, tundra and Ice mostly. Every game I've seen fur its almost always in areas that can't support a city at all, or even work the tile to gain the commerce from it. Whereas a deer can support the population to work it: +2F w/ camp.
I'm almost (almost) inclined to change Fur: +1F,+4C; Deer: +2F,+1C. I just hate game balance changes. Then at least if the resource is on the fringes of civilization it would only take 1 grassland farm to support working the tile & 2 farms if the fur was on ice.
