Idea about balancing Statue of Zeus

[player1 fanatic]

Why not make wonder obsolete with Monotheism?

It goes well with flavor, and still leaves enough time to build good number of Ancient Cavalries.

If, on the other hand, this solution looks to harsh, maybe adding ability to upgrade Ancient Cavalry to Knights could be added to compensate.

 

[socralynnek]

I think, it would be enough if it's obsolete with Gunpowder, which makes sense and it would not be that much.

 

[player1 fanatic]

Originally posted by socralynnek
I think, it would be enough if it's obsolete with Gunpowder, which makes sense and it would not be that much.

Although, that's not too far from Metallurgy.
(and you could pass through 60% of medieval tech tree without touching Gunpowder)



P.S.
Still, with my fix, there could be problem with AI, who could build it too late, so it won't get much benefit until Monotheism.

 

[Capt Buttkick]

I'm not sure I agree that it should be made obsolete earlier. I'd rather see it produce a little weaker units and of course the main prob with the SoZ is that ivory usually isn't spread out like other vital strategic resources (ivory is, in a sense, a strategic resource when it comes to the SoZ). That means there's even more of a luck factor than whether or not there's iron inside your borders.

 

[socralynnek]

Maybe to balance it, you can make the absence of iron a prerequisite of SoZ...That would be fair (normally in Civ3 Prerequisites are only checked when you start to build something, so this should be changed)

 

[Mano3]

Tough subject. Zeus really helped me in the early game to get ahead. Zeus and the Templar Kinghts are very good 'toys' for the warmonger. Are they too powerful? I don't know, but I'm glad that they do become obsolete.

 

[Capt Buttkick]

Mano3: I used to think it was a great wonder.
Then I started a tiny pangea map as the carths with the Romans, Byz and Greek as my neighbours. I've never won on a tiny pangea map before, but the AC made a meal out of everything the AI could throw at me.

Now I think it's an overpowered wonder, because it lets you move up 3 difficulty levels on tiny maps (and prob 1 level on huge maps) and still dominate.