Idea for a Post WW2 Scenario

Academia: 32226 tile sets. :D

Insurgent, you're awesome. I just might ask Curt for help. I have been keeping some tabs on that thread too, looking for some ideas. Those unit ideas sound great. I'll start working on them ASAP. :lol:
 
I'm here to help. :D Just ask me if you need anything. I am moderately skilled in graphics making, and I might be able to help you with the gameplay, and some history. I like your idea, so I'd like it to substantiate... :D
 
this sounds amazing! I really cannot wait to play this! Ive had the idea of an alternate ww2 scenario for a while, and now i get back everyones doing it! Well done indeed!
While on the subject of Manstein Vs Rommel, i would say that Manstein would probably be a wiser choice of leader except for one thing, it simply doesnt sound as good as Rommel. I know its a very ignorant thing to say, especially with the well informed historical debate thats going on about it, but the sheer sound of Erwins name strikes a certain note in me. I admire that man, and i think that had Nazi germany been under his rule things could have been much different.
On a completely un-related note, i have just come back from iraq, where i saw the most awful things i have ever seen in my life. Yet somehow, i get back and can still get excited by the prospect of playing a game about war.
Good luck with the project, i cant wait!
 
I will also offer my help, nomatter what :) Just yell it out, man! :goodjob:

PS: Thumbs up for Rommel! :king:
 
Limey: Well, I don't think Manstein is a more likely bid for a leader - he suffered from an extreme lack of political courage and clung to the old Prussian officer's traditions. He needed to be dictated - he let Hitler and the thought of honour do that. Militarily he was superior to Rommel, but I don't think it would have been likely for any of them to take charge.
Saying that, I think Treschkow and Canaris would be good bids. They were both actively engaged in fighting the nazis from within - Treschkow led the conspirators who tried to blow up Hitler on the 20th of July 1944, and admiral Canaris led the intelligence organisation, Abwehr, and tipped enemies of Germany and did his best to undermine Hitler.
 
Hey Everyone,

Sorry for the inactivity this past week. I sort of had to graduate college and all. I will be posting an update on the progress of the scenario, some units descriptions and needs, plus another addition to the storyline this weekend.

And yes insurgent, it will involve Manstein... :D

Edit: The preliminary timeline has been changed. The commando raid to capture Stalin now takes place in Kazan, Russia. Irkutsk was a dumb place to hold the raid, seeing as it might as well be in Mongolia. Should have looked at a map first...
 
Ok, now that I finally had some time to write down some things, here are some ideas for units for the scenario. Please note, there are more than 62 units named here, meaning I want you guys to help me cut them down to size. :D

Here goes:

German

Wermacht Infantry
SS Infantry
Fallschirmjager
Panzerfaust Unit
Commandos
Otto Skorzeny
Panther V
Tiger II
(Tank Unit)
Supertank (lowe or maus)
Panzer Grenadier
U-Boat
2nd Gen U-Boat
TV Guided Missile
V-2
ICBM
Modified U-boat (Missle or plane launcher)
Carrier (Navy) Plane
Messerschmitt BF-109
Focke Wulf FW-109
JU-87 Stuka
Me 262
Arado E555
Horten HO MM229-3 Fighter
2nd Gen Jet Fighter
Prop Bomber

Soviets

JS-2
JS-3
T-34/85
T-44
T-54
Katayusha
Soviet Infantry
NKVD
(Prop Fighter)
(Prop Bomber)

United States

M-29 Pershing Tank
M-46 Patton Tank
Sherman Mk4
B-17 Flying Fortress
B-29 Superfortress
B-36 Peacemaker
U.S. Marines
G.I. Infantry
Army Rangers
Essex Class Carrier
Light Carrier
Midway Class Carrier
Bearcat Carrier Plane
P-80 Shooting Star
P-38 Lightning
F-9 Panther Jet

British

Centurion MkIII Tank
Churchill MkVIII Tank
Cromwell Mk IV Tank
British Infantry
British Commandos
Gloster Meteor Jet
Lancaster Bomber
Mosquito Bomber
Typhoon 1B Fighter
Supermarine Spitfire
Hawker Hurricane

Allied Shared Units

Halftrack
P-51 Mustang Fighter
Bazooka
P-61 Black Widow
P-82 Twin Mustang
Submarine

Generic Units

Transport
Destroyer
Cruiser
Battleship
Carrier
Anti-Aircraft
A-Bomb


Give me your thoughts. Plot addition coming soon.
 
Note: I changed the date on Rommel's power play meeting to later in September...

September 7th, 1941 - Traveling HQ of 56th Panzer Corps - 20 miles outside of Greater Leningrad

"General, wake up. Sir, please wake up!"

Erich Von Manstein, commander of of the 56th Panzer Corps, opened his eyes to see his personal aide, Lieutenant Kessel, standing over him.

"What is it Karl, it's the middle of the night? Has there been a Russian breakthrough?"

"No sir, something worse. A message from Berlin has come in over the wire... It's terrible news sir." The General took the paper from the lieutenant's trembling hand. The message simply read:

"... OKH transmission: The Fuerher has suffered a stroke and has been hospitalized. Continue with operations. No deviation from plan. Repeat, no deviation from plan..."

Manstein leaned back on the head board. "Dear God... Hitler has been incapacitated.... He might even be dead at this very moment." The General fell silent.

The only sound in the room was the tick of a pocket watch...

Lieutenant Kessel sat quietly in the room's only chair. "What now Heir General?"

The General sighed and sat thoughtfully... "Karl, do you know what will win this war?"

"Superior equipment and tactics General?" Lieutenant Kessel replied.

"Partly Lieutenant, partly. You see, speed is the key to winning this war. Speed and action. The Fuerher preached this. He knew what we had to do..."

The General trailed off, and the room grew silent again.

Lieutenant Kessel's face grew puzzled. "Sir, who is running things in the Fuerher's absence?"

Manstein froze. The sound of the pocket watch suddenly left the General's ears to be replaced by the sound of blood rushing to his heart. The General, put both feet on the floor and slowly turned his head toward the Lieutenant. Kessel, for the first time in all the years he had known the General, had never seen the look of fear cross the man's face.

Throwing his robe on and feverishly trying to find his reading glasses the General started thinking quickly. "Karl, I want you to send a message to some friends of mine in high command. With the Fuerher out of the picture I fear for Germany's fate. Get my glasses and pen."

The Lieutenant, alarmed at the actions of his superior, rose from his seat and tried to talk some sense into the General. "Sir, maybe you should have some coffee before any rash decisions are made."

Manstein, now on his feet, fixed the Lieutenant with an icy stare.

"Nein! Speed Karl, speed! Speed is as much an asset in politics as it is in war. Speed... and action..."
 
January 5th, 1946 - Bavaria, Germany - Estate of retired Erich Von Manstein - Back Garden

The general was working on his rose bushes, muttering obscenities every few moments, when Lieutenant Kessel approached him.

"Sir, you have a guest."

Manstein kept his attention on his pruning. "A guest? I thought I told you that I was not to be disturbed."

"I know sir, but..."

-Snip- A large growth fell off one of the bushes. "Damn! I missed again!" The General, frustrated, through down his gloves. "I swear, everytime I'm working on my roses, something comes up. I wish I could just fly over to Britain, steal some of their varities, and not have to go through this prep work..." He stopped. Lieutenant Kessel was staring at him intently. The General steadied himself. "Fine Karl, who's here to see me."

"Well sir, you'll just have to see for yourself."

The General rose from his garden and dusted himself off. "Alright Karl, I guess the roses can wait till next year, again.

The Lieutenant frowned. "How about I finish pruning this row while you meet with your guest, sir."

Manstein gritted his teeth. "Why yes Karl, that sounds like a wonderful idea." Both men shot daggers at eachother then smiled. They had been good friends for quite some time. "Alright old friend, it's a deal."

The General took off his straw hat and walked toward the front of the house. Manstein stepped out onto the front patio, concentrating on dusting off some stubborn bits of clay from his pants. "I thought that the sign that reads 'Private' on the front gate would have been more than enough to..." Manstein stopped as he looked up. The man before him was no salesman or charity case.

Before Manstein stood the Chancellor of Germany, Erwin Rommel.

"Hello Erich, it's been a long time. I see you've been keeping busy."

Manstein stared at Rommel for a moment. "Yes Chancellor, it has been a very long time. I haven't seen you since the end of the war."

"Please Erich, don't be so formal. I'm here as a friend today."

Manstein smiled. "Yes Erwin, as a friend. I like that." He paused. "Where are my manners, would you like to sit down?"

"Yes I would actually, the drive from Berlin was a long one. I really should raise the speed limit down here." Both men chuckled.
"Come out to the back, I'll have the housekeeper make us something to drink."

Both men sat and made polite conversation for awhile, but soon turned to more serious matters. "So, Erwin, being Chancellor of the Reich must be a demanding job. You obviously aren't here to just catch up on old times. I suppose you want something of me. Something I am probably not ready to give."

Rommel, sat back in his chair and lit a cigarette. "Yes Erich, I am here to ask something of you. In short I am calling in a favor. A big favor." Rommel took a drag of the cigarette and paused. "I'm sure you recall what I did for you back in '41."

Manstein turned away from the Chancellor and looked out over the estate grounds. "Yes Erwin, I remember. The death of three close friends has burned the memory into my mind... Your other three 'compatriots' had my friends at OKH killed and wanted to have my head for trying to cut them out of the power struggle. My popularity among the officer corps and your intervention was the only thing that saved myself and my family."

Rommel cut in. "And the fact that you took Leningrad before winter set in helped to."

Manstein turned back to Rommel. "Yes, it did. Unfortunately, I was forced to retire not soon after the final push."

"You can't have it both ways Erich."

Manstein frowned. "Yes, I know... Alright Chancellor, what is this favor you ask of me."

Rommel reached into his coat jacket and pulled out a sealed folder. "Oh, nothing much. After defeating Stalin's armies I'm sure you will have no problem with this task."

Manstein broke the wax on the folder and opened the cover. His eyes went wide. "KARL! Stop playing in the f****** garden and get over here!

Out in the garden the Lieutenant was nursing a nasty cut on his finger from one of the roses when he heard the General's yell. He rushed back to the seating area and was greeted by what seemed to be two human beings turned wolves. Both men were sharing death head grins. "Heir General, what's wrong?"

Manstein fixed his eyes on his aide. "I might just get the chance to steal some British roses after all."

To Lieutenant Kessel the pain from his throbbing finger suddenly seemed very far away...
 
You should write alternate history. You're quite talented at it... Great job! :goodjob:
 
Wow, sorry it's been so long since a project update but working the night shift at a fish factory sucks. No I'm not kidding. Anyways, I'm just about done with the unit graphics, only a few more to go and I can post a beta units.gif. One thing I do need, that is if anyone is interested, is new infantry units. Right now I am ripping off Curt and Danny Evil Cat for the time being until I can get some infantry of my own. So would anyone like to do them?

I need: German, American, British, Russian, Neutral regular infantry. German SS, Russian NKVD, British Commandos, and American Army Rangers. Also, I need a unique Otto Skorzeny unit.

If you consider yourself an art-ee-st please let me know if you are interested. As for artistic constraints, I would really love to have diagonally facing units with some cartoonish flare to them (think of the movie "The Rocketeer" and the game "Red Alert 2"). I want to make this a fun scenario, that's really pleasing to the eye. :cool:
 
I'm sorry, but I don't really have the time for such a project for the time being. But I suggest that if that's the style of units you need, you just go to the units graphics section of this site. There you'll find compilations of Nemo's units (compiled by The ANZAC). They really have what you need, and they look great.
But of course, if you want original units...
 
Hmmmm, ok. I might as well bite the bullet and make the new units by myself. Let's see if I can make some better tanks than what's out there. Here's hoping....
 
why cut your units list down? Multi-events would allow for a much larger "scripted" element to the gameplay, as well as allowing you to use pretty much as many units as you want. There are drawbacks however, like the amount of work that would have to go into playtesting it to make sure that all the unit paths and tech trees work out fine.
However, this has the look of a good scenario, and multi-events really is the way to go if you want to make it top-notch, which this scenario sounds like its gona be!
 
Got a new job, so I've been trying to work on this as much as I can. Here's the new map, minus the hills and mountains, which will be added later. The swamp and tundra terrain will be subbed by an oil field terrain square and a grain belt terrain square.

As for the rest of the scenario... Oh you just wait, It'll be goood....
 
Can't wait! :thumbsup:
 
Haha, never thought you'd see this thread alive again, did you? Well I've been doing to majority of my work over at apolyton and I wanted to post some screenshots. It just so happens that Fanatics supports jpegs, which are of better quality. So here's an update...

Screenshot #1

"Everything was dandy in Atomicville. Although the residents couldn't say the same for their neighbors across the river..."
 

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"Say again Charley One... You can see flying what?!?"
 

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Once again, I'd like to extend an invitation to anyone willing to finish up my "Cities" graphic tile. I'm about halfway done. Also, if anyone is in the giving mood I need some icons too.
 
Drool! Superb screenshots, this is going to rock!!! :D

If you wish, you can pass those icons and cities my way, Harry! :)

Via email is best for me.
 
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