If you were running for President....

[Turner]

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[MobBoss]

For our non-american mods and posters. This issue is the dominating story this morning in the USA. It is all over the press and radio and the same exact questions I ask in this thread are what is being discussed.

So this is a very legitimate question.

Other questions are coming up as well as I listen to my radio.

Edwards is currently polling third. So far, the comments I am hearing from callings on the radio program I listen too, this isnt being received very well. If this polls badly for him and his numbers drop, I wonder at what point it becomes not worth it.

A presidential campaign (not to mention actually being the president) is one of the most stressful and demanding situation imaginable. Again, even if my wife pleaded with me to continue on, I wouldnt. I couldnt.

 

[Masquerouge]

What if SHE wants him to keep going?
EDIT: ah, I guess MobBoss answered to that right above me

My take is that they had a long discussion about it, and if he made that decision I'm pretty sure they both agreed on it.
Whether people will like that or not is another matter.

 

[Rossiya]

Your poll options are crap. You influenced people by not just having "Yes" or "No".

 

[El_Machinae]

For our non-american mods and posters. This issue is the dominating story this morning in the USA. It is all over the press and radio and the same exact questions I ask in this thread are what is being discussed.

So this is a very legitimate question.

Other questions are coming up as well as I listen to my radio.

Are the news services phrasing the questions the same way the OP did?

 

[Masquerouge]

Your poll options are crap. You influenced people by not just having "Yes" or "No".

I'll have to admit the poll options are a bit skewed against Edwards.

 

[Left]

And your wife got diagnosed with untreatable malignant bone cancer would you:

It is treatable, but not curable.

 

[MobBoss]

Well, what else is she going to say? If her reply was anything but that she wants him to continue running his chances reduce to virtually zero. But I do think the Edwards camp has misread exactly how this is going to poll. Cynicism of political figures is at an all time high - its just too easy to envision him as a 'bad guy' as opposed to carrying on his wifes wishes.

I admire her for wanting her husband to continue his campaign. However, I have had two close friends that had loved ones die of inoperable cancer in the last few years. It is truly a horrible way to die and terribly draining on a family - especially one with young children. Even if he were not running for president, it would be a terrible tragic thing to experience.

 

[Masquerouge]

Well, what else is she going to say? If her reply was anything but that she wants him to continue running his chances reduce to virtually zero. But I do think the Edwards camp has misread exactly how this is going to poll. Cynicism of political figures is at an all time high - its just too easy to envision him as a 'bad guy' as opposed to carrying on his wifes wishes.

I admire her for wanting her husband to continue his campaign. However, I have had two close friends that had loved ones die of inoperable cancer in the last few years. It is truly a horrible way to die and terribly draining on a family - especially one with young children. Even if he were not running for president, it would be a terrible tragic thing to experience.

But it's not because a majority of people are not going to like the fact that Edwards will keep on running that his decision is immoral.

 

[MobBoss]

Are the news services phrasing the questions the same way the OP did?

Actually, one lady who identified herself as a democrat was very scathing of Edwards. She recently had lost her mother to a similiar cancer and basically said the decision to continue the campaign will add to the stress and ultimately kill Edwards wife earlier than it should due to added stress.

There was also several views that I dont particularly endorse; and it had to do in that Edwards make his fortune by representing very ill/terminally ill clients and thus has direct experience as a trial lawyer to 'sell' this to the public.

Bear in mind I only repeat that because you simply asked. I dont think it has any merit. Bottom line, there are plenty of opinions out there far, far worse than those I put forth.

 

[MobBoss]

Your poll options are crap. You influenced people by not just having "Yes" or "No".

The poll options reflect what I think the separate sides will think of this issue. So far I dont think I am far off the mark.

 

[El_Machinae]

I guess CFC varies from normal, since we've all seen right through the hackery of the poll options.

Well, what else is she going to say? If her reply was anything but that she wants him to continue running his chances reduce to virtually zero.

Of course they would have been zero. The man would likely have dropped out if she told him she didn't want him to continue running!

 

[Bozo Erectus]

And your wife got diagnosed with untreatable malignant bone cancer would you:

A. Withdraw from the race in order to spend time with your wife while dealing with her illness?

B. Continue to run for President.

Well, apparently, Edwards is choosing option B. http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...01357_RTRUKOC_0_US-EDWARDS.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

I dont know, call me silly, but if this were me, I would want to spend as much time with my wife as I could with as little stress on our lives possible. Why on earth would someone think winning the election more important than spending time with their terminally ill wife? I just couldnt see myself making Edwards decision that he has. What is your opinion?

My own personal feeling is that Edwards staying in the race is even more important to his wife than it is to him. From all acounts they seem to actually love each other. If he quit because of her illness, on top of all the stress associated with any diagnosis of uncurable cancer, the extra burden of feeling like its her fault he didnt run for President, would be intolerable.

 

[MobBoss]

My own personal feeling is that Edwards staying in the race is even more important to his wife than it is to him. From all acounts they seem to actually love each other. If he quit because of her illness, on top of all the stress associated with any diagnosis of uncurable cancer, the extra burden of feeling like its her fault he didnt run for President, would be intolerable.

One. I dont disagree with you. Two. Its not her fault she has cancer. Three. The whole situation is an intolerable mess, but in my opinion, continuing the campaign isnt the wisest or best course of action to continue. Four. Edwards is young....what harm is there in dealing with this at this point in his life and then continuing his polical career down the road? This isnt like it is his last, best shot at winning. Or is it?

 

[MobBoss]

Now whether this brings sympathy votes...I don't know. It shouldn't. Just like Hillary should not recieve votes for being a woman, Obama should not recieve votes for being black, and Romney should not recieve votes for being a Mormon.

Well, thats true......most likely having those qualities would lose votes as opposed to gaining votes for sympathy. I expect the same will be true of this current situation as well.

 

[CartesianFart]

He is not going to win the Democratic primary but will win some money for the party with silly public-relation stunts.

 

[Swedishguy]

I have no idea, as I don't have a wife.

 

[MobBoss]

He is not going to win the Democratic primary but will win some money for the party with silly public-relation stunts.

Well, Cart you voted that yes, you would continue to run regardless. If Edwards isnt going to win the primary, then whats the incentive to continue running? Can you explain your yes vote a bit more considering this?

 

[CartesianFart]

Well, Cart you voted that yes, you would continue to run regardless. If Edwards isnt going to win the primary, then whats the incentive to continue running?

I guess,that if I was a public official and my career rest on that lifestyle,then I would take the opportunity to take advantage of a weak party that have no great quality of candidates even if I am not going to win against such as the beast-woman named Hillary. It is all about contributing for the purse of the party.

Can you explain your yes vote a bit more considering this?

Just because a love one is sick does not mean that the income have to stop.You can do both(which is taking care of your love one and your career at the same time).

 

[MobBoss]

Just because a love one is sick does not mean that the income have to stop.You can do both(which is taking care of your love one and your career).

Ah...Edwards is beyond rich from his days as a attorney. He is a millionaire several times over. He doenst have to work another day in his life if he didnt want to.

And I think everyone would recognize there is a big difference in paying someone to take care of your loved one....and you doing it yourself personally.

EDIT: Also, after reading your comment in referencing someone with stage 4 cancer as being 'sick', well, that makes it sound like she has the flu. This cancer will kill her and its just a matter of time before that happens. This isnt just being...'sick'.

It is all about contributing for the purse of the party.

Its a virtual gurantee that Edwards will spend far more in his campaign than he would ever raise for the party.