Illegal aliens kill again.

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Its almost daily we hear about how illegals are effecting this nation. Well yet again these criminals have killed people that shouldn't have had to die.

http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=122139&ran=8745

How many people at stop lights have to die from illegals before we do something? This POS was not only illegal but had a criminal record in the US. I know some of you will want to blame everyone but the illegal like the neo-conned mega corps and their evil CEOs. But the buck stops with the illegal who willingly broke the law when they entered, when they stayed and in this case drove without a legal licences and drunk. How come the Minute Man Project is demonized by the ACLU but this guy isn't? When is enough enough?

(sits and waits to be called a bigot and a racist)
 
And Illinois wants to give them licenses...
 
Blah blah blah blah blah blah you're racist, blah blah blah blah blah blah immigrants are the backbone of this country, blah blah blah blah blah blah stolen land from Mexico, blah blah blah blah blah blah they don't have any other choice, blah blah blah blah blah.
 
Looks like that illegal went to the Laura Bush school of driving. But really, do American citizens never get charged with manslaughter? Do legal immigrants not get charged with manslaughter? How about Minutemen? Do they all have clean legal records?
 
Can you show that most crimes of this sort are commited by illegals? Or because they are illegals?

Can you at the very least prove that he is at all an illegal alien?


No?


Thank you, and goodbye. Mods informed about racist post.
 
I suspect that only a minority of drunk drivers who cause accidents are illegal aliens. It is like claiming that it is ok for the kids who actually live in the apartment building to be violent/cause pain, but it is a horrible crime if it happens by an outsider kid. You may think that at least you could in theory control the violence that comes from outsiders, but in reality the net result would most probably remain the same, especially in cases such as driving under the influence of alcohol/drugs.
 
Can you at the very least prove that he is at all an illegal alien?
Wow - you are absolutely right. The article does not mention anything about the driver's citinship. He just has an evil sounding last name - sort of like Gonzales.
 
Looks like that illegal went to the Laura Bush school of driving. But really, do American citizens never get charged with manslaughter? Do legal immigrants not get charged with manslaughter? How about Minutemen? Do they all have clean legal records?

Whats your point exactly and what does this have to do with Gitmo?

Should the illegal have been here to begin with? No. Game set match. You lose.
 
For those who fall for the lie in th OP, here's teh REAL article:

Driver charged with manslaughter after crash kills two Beach teens

Tessa Tranchant, 16, left, and Allison Kunhardt, 17, were killed late Friday in a crash on Virginia Beach Boulevard.
Tessa Tranchant, 16, left, and Allison Kunhardt, 17, were killed late Friday in a crash on Virginia Beach Boulevard. COURTESY PHOTO

By STEVE STONE AND DAVE FORSTER, The Virginian-Pilot
© April 1, 2007

VIRGINIA BEACH - Two teenagers were killed late Friday when a car plowed into the rear of their vehicle as they waited for a green light at an intersection. The driver of the other car was charged with manslaughter.

"It's tragic is all I can say," said Jimmy Barnes, a police spokesman.

The victims were 17-year Allison Kunhardt of the 700 block of Sir Walter Circle and 16-year-old Tessa Tranchant of the 4500 block of Genoa Circle.

"They were just sitting at the light, strapped in their seat belts," said Ray Tranchant, Tessa's father. "They were just doing what they were supposed to be doing."

Charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter is Alfredo Ramos, 22, who gave his address to police as the 100 block of Trace Court, Barnes said. That address, just off Virginia Beach Boulevard, is less than two miles from the scene of the collision.

Ramos is being held without bond at the Virginia Beach Correctional Center pending an arraignment hearing Monday.

Meanwhile, the families and friends of the two victims struggled with grief.

Dozens of them gathered in the afternoon at a Friendly's restaurant Saturday to console each other. The two girls became close friends when Tessa's mother began dating Allison's father.

"When they met they were inseparable," Colette Tranchant said of her daughter and her friend.

Allison attended First Colonial High School; Tessa attended Kellam.

"You see all of the friends she has here," Colette Tranchant said, looking around the restaurant Saturday.


Students from Kellam High School console each other Saturday at Virginia Beach Boulevard and Kings Grant Road, where a Kellam classmate and a student at First Colonial High School were killed in a crash the previous night. GENEVIEVE ROSS / THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT

Among them was Tessa's older brother, Dylan Tranchant.

He said the girls spent much of Friday holed up in his sister's room watching movies. The two shared a Monty Python-like sense of humor and loved to quote lines from the film "Napoleon Dynamite," he said.

"It almost becomes like an improv comedy when they're together," he said. "They were a perfect pair."

After the movies, Tessa, an aspiring chef who also loved to sing and surf, her mother said, cooked a spicy meal of chicken wings and pizza.

The girls were driving to a friend's house Friday night.

"I'm just going to go ahead and ride with denial for a while," Dylan Tranchant said.

Friends recalled Tessa as a goofy, sassy, positive girl to whom people could tell secrets in confidence and not worry about them becoming gossip.

"She wouldn't give anyone a reason not to like her," Samantha Augone said.

Allison, known as Ally by her friends, was a typical teenage girl who loved clothes, music and shopping, Dylan Tranchant said.

"They always went everywhere together," he said of the two.

David Kunhardt said police came to his door about 2:15 a.m. Saturday to deliver the news.

The death has shaken Allison's entire family, "but especially her older sister," Ashley, 22, a junior at Old Dominion University, he said. "She is taking it very hard."

Allison "had a great, unbelievably witty sense of humor," her father said. "She was always upbeat." He recalled bringing her on cruises to the Caribbean. "I took her a couple times and she fell in love with it. She would bring it up every three months or so: 'Let's go on a cruise, Dad.' "

He said his daughter loved music and theater.

She worked at a local market and dreamed of becoming an interior decorator after college. Her style "was always away from the norm," he said. "It always had to be different."

Her "number one thing, however, was to hang out with Tessa," he said. "They were definitely inseparable. I've never seen a closer friendship. They would finish each other's sentences."

The girls' friends cried and laughed as they talked Saturday, but there was an undercurrent of anger.

One girl said many of the friends plan to attend Ramos' trial.

The wreck was reported about 11:25 p.m., Barnes said, at Virginia Beach Boulevard and Kings Grant Road.

Barnes said Ramos was driving a 1998 two-door Mitsubishi westbound on Virginia Beach Boulevard when it crashed into the rear of a 1994 Plymouth driven by Allison. Barnes said both speed and alcohol were factors in the wreck.

The Plymouth was stopped at a red light at the Kings Grant intersection, Barnes said.

Allison and Tessa were pinned in the wreckage and had to be cut free before paramedics could tend them.

One of the girls died at the scene; the other was pronounced dead shortly after arrival at a hospital, Barnes said. Both were wearing seat belts, he said.

Ramos also was wearing a seat belt and suffered only minor injuries, Barnes said.

It was unclear how fast the vehicle Ramos was driving was going at the time of the crash or whether he attempted to stop before the collision. The speed limit in that area is posted at 45 mph.

Barnes said the investigation continues and that additional details may be released Monday.

Note how the terms 'illegal' and 'alien' are conspicuously ABSENT from the source - all the OT poster has to go on is RESPONSES to the article. One claims that his BROTHER is an illegal alien. The guy himself seems not be be an illegal.
 
Can you show that most crimes of this sort are commited by illegals? Or because they are illegals?

Can you at the very least prove that he is at all an illegal alien?


No?


Thank you, and goodbye. Mods informed about racist post.

http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=122201&ran=61852&tref=po

Ramos, who admitted in court Monday that he is in the country illegally, also was convicted in Chesapeake last year of public drunkenness.
Happy now carlos? Apology acepted.
 
The logic here is just stunning; it's okay for illegals to drink, drive, and kill, when people that are legally here also do it?
 
The thread could just as well be focused on drunk drivers, or the inconsistency of how certain charges are applied, not of people of a particular race.

Given some of the language used in the opening post of this thread, I think it best if some time is given before trying to refocus the subject.

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