Immortal University 93 - Louis XIV

[Dubioza]

1500 AD Domination Victory

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Yep, 25 turns GAge confirmed.

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Libbed MT in 1150, turn after I met Hannibal. And finally met HC in 1220 - Hannibal was competent tech-wise (or so I thought but he had lots to backfill), and HC was building WW's.

It took me little longer then planned to fight JC again, I built some infra first and half-way in GAge switched for semi-unit production, except chose FReligion instead Theo for somewhat better research. In 1300 got Steel, in 1330 Rifling; upgraded 20 units to cannons and some to rifles and turn later declared. Last day of GAge switched to USuff & FSpeech.

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Took 4 of his cities and in 1420 he capped. I lost one of my poorly defended cities in between, but took it back next turn. Later I gave him back all of them as they were coming out of revolution and turned south toward Hammy while new stack was gathering east of his borders.

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Declared as soon as they healed, in 1470. Didn't even use cannons, 2-move units captured 3 poorly defended cities in first 2 turns of war when he capped in 1490. That was 65% for domination limit, so I gave him back all of cities (it was still over 64%, did it just to improve relations).

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Learned some, failed some, farmed a lot but had fun! Failed in my game speed, still played ~24h. Mostly cause I don't trust city governor nor automated workers - was checking most of cities most turns, thinking over it and setting them manually. Automated workers long after chain irrigated everything, I think after 1200 AD - with "Leave old improvements" set. I still had some "repairing" to do, and would do it manually.

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[rfcfanatic]

Monarch/Normal, until 1 AD

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As people suggested here that settling on the cow was a strong move, I went along with the idea Now I see why it's strong move - worker production takes 12 turns instead of 15. Just like settling on plains hill!

Teched Mining - BW - Pottery - AH and then went down to the Oracle path: Mysticism - Meditation - Priesthood and built the Oracle in 1680 BC. While researching, I tried to avoid building roads and got some cottages started. With the Oracle I chose Metal Casting as the free tech. While building Forges, I teched towards Code of Laws so I could do cheaper Courthouse whips. Unfortunately, I forgot to switch to Slavery when I got my first Settler out of Paris. Again Fixed this mistake only after researching Monarchy. Hereditary Rule civic was short lived, because a Great Engineer was born in Paris and he helped to rush the Pyramids.

In 1 AD I have 8 cities. Two major religious factions have formed - Judaism and Hinduism. Because of Judaism I enjoy good relations with Hammurabi and Hatshephsut, but equally bad relations with Catherine and Julius Caesar.

 

[rfcfanatic]

1300 AD

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Currently getting my first experience on medieval warfare on Monarch difficulty.

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Catherine the infidel declared war on the French empire and threatened one of the border cities with a huge stack. But the French rallied from a hopeless position where their military power was far below Catherine's and destroyed the stack:

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It is good to have friends like this:

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and this:

With the combined effort we shall win the holy war against the infidels:

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Before the holy war broke out, the French empire managed to expand to 14 cities:

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[rfcfanatic]

1330 AD

Of course I'll accept! But what was it called? Peace-vassalage?

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[Smilingrogue]

@ rfcfanatic

Looks like you are in a solid position.

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My memory of this map is sketchy, but don't we have Elephants somewhere in there? See if you can trade for them and build them instead of Pikes as Elephants fill in the role of anti-cavalry defence very well and are more versatile than Pikes - 8 Strength, ability to upgrade to Cuirassiers and Cavalry with no true hard counter outside of Pikes. Pikes on the other had are easily countered by Crossbows and Maces and they are also not very good for attacking cities.

Looks like a simple wrap up if you can get to Cannons now. Aiming for another Space win?

 

[rfcfanatic]

@Smilingrogue

Thanks

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Yes, we do have elephants nearby! But they are controlled by Cathy. I hope that I can capture these border cities so I could build some War Elephants then.

Yes! After Guilds I'll go for Gunpowder and I guess then it will make sense to beeline Steel for Cannon. I'll lose Liberalism, but so what! Actually I'm still yet to win the Lib race on Monarch.

Not sure about the victory condition yet. I'm afraid there's another continent somewhere, because I only have met 4 opponents. In the last Nobles Club game I came to the final decision in 1900s

 

[rfcfanatic]

1918 AD, another Diplomatic victory. UN victory this time.

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As a result of our combined war effort, Cathy started losing cities in a rapid rate. I didn't even get the chance to build and use War Elephants instead of Pikemen. Unfortunately, I got too greedy and didn't accept the capitulation from Cathy after capturing Moscow. Hammurabi was faster.

Next, there was a problem - large numbers of unemployed medieval soldiers. The solution - declararion of war on Julius Caesar. He was a little bit tougher enemy than Cathy, because he had Cuirassiers (and Cannon in the later phase) vs my medieval troops. But eventually he was forced to capitulate in 1665 AD. I eventually got Grenadiers and Cannon, but they almost didn't see any action at all. My medieval army basically did all the job.

After that, I did some infrastructure building. As the first priority, I built Markets, Grocers and Banks in order to secure a positive cashflow. The second priority was to build Salons and Universities. After getting some Levees and Factories operational, there was a time to start preparing an invasion to the continent of Hannibal and Huayna Capac. But as I suck badly on building Transports, I wasn't ready until the early 20th century. This was the invasion force. Many of these soldiers were upgraded veterans of the medieval wars:

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Still, a lot of troops had to stay in Ravenna, because I was too slow to build enough Transports:

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The French military command considered this forest to have the best strategic value as a landing spot:

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In the next turn, Thapsus fell and Hannibal was ready to capitulate which I kindly accepted.

Capitulation from Huayna Capac was probably everything I needed for Domination victory. But the UN Diplomatic victory voting session came earlier...

By the way, before declaring on HC, I offered him to become my vassal, but I got an objection I had never seen before:

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klonoklown, thanks for the map!

 

[Pengu]

Imm until 375 AD

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Well, a few places to settle your 1st city but I thought they seemed pretty equal so I SIP. I did tech AH for the cows and saw that there were quite a few horses around. Worker stole from hatchet and blocked her. Made peace and settled aggressivly towards her, so she couldn't get those damn horses and war chariots. I had decided she was too close and seemed to have decent land. Went with chariots and It did take me while to have enough of them as walled archers eat up quite a few. I took city after city until she had 1 left. Then picked up iron, saling etc for peace. The problem with having 8 cities this early was the maintenance. Oracle went 1800 BC so I had no chance and I didn't have col or currency which made teching to currency agonisingly slow. I only met 4 other civs and Hammy founded Hindu which made it a hindu lovefest.... After 10 turns I dowed Hatty and finshed her off. The city wasn't great and I couldn't really afford it so I burned it. What is really annoying is that the AI rexed easily to 10 cities each and I had real trouble blocking off the AI as I couldn't afford it. I though I was safe and teched towards litterature only to see the red fist of Cathy
That wench had obviously just gone to pleased and started plotting just before. Just so annoying. I knew she was coming so I was prepared but I had to spend alot of hammers on units and as if my exonomy wasn't strained enough. And then she comes with 15 unit stack.... I win easily though but 2 urns later another 10 unit stack arrives. How is she doing it? I got tired of it and went on the offensive. Took 1 city and made peace. All this crap delayed me and just now I got Litterature. My plan is to build TGL in Thebes and tech CS. I can't afford to expand more than the 10 cities I have for now and I hope the other AI's doesn't get too many. With everyone at pleased I am not expecting any more wars. Well, until I start one....
Got the mids, hard with no marble to get much else. Don't know much about the other continent more than buddism, Conf and taoism was founded over there. Right now the outcome seem sup in the air. Don't know if it was the right move to take out Hatty. Maybe she would have built me some nice wonders....

 

[Pengu]

Dom 1520 AD

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Sigh, it didn't go at all as I had hoped. Somewhat...
Tried for TGL but it was too late as the other continent built it. I did get music 1st though. After my war with Cathy not much happened. Julius expanded the most getting 14 cities, with me at 15. I did finally did catch up in tech and bulbed edu before they had paper. I could have delayed lib but since I wanted to use my GE for Taj and with hammy going straight for it, I libbed nationalsm at 1000 AD just to to be safe.
Together with the artist I got quite the golden age even without MoM. I pumped out 3 GM and even went the detour for economics just to get another GM .
Then I teched MT and GP while whipping a bunch of knights.
With julius at war with Hanni I thought it was plain sailing to attack Cathy. I begged from hammy but julius refused to give me. Well, As he was at war np I thought.
I had gone a bit overboard when i dowed her in 1200 AD as I had 30-40 cuirs. I attacked from 2 flanks and just blitzted her. Then after 2 turns into the war Julius makes peace with hanni and gets bribed in on me. Well, so what, let him come I thought. Cathy continued to be crushed but refused to cap. You know what's coming... Of course she peacevassals to Julius. I was furious as he gifted her techs and he was closing in on rifling. That sealed Cathy's fate as she would be wiped from the face of the planet. Which she was. The war vs julius was long as he is a stubborn fool. it was funny to see his research during the war
He had between 4-6 turns to rifling but couldn't get any closer as he continued to loose cities. After kicking him of the continent he finally vasslaed with 4 cities left. I was now over 30 cities... I was sitting at 55% of land and maybe I could have waited for my cities to come out of revolt but Hammy was easy pickings. That moron had teched electricity and democracy which left him without even gunpowder. I didn't know how many cities I needed to take for dom so I took a few more than was needed but I could have finished him off if I wanted to to. So maybe I could have finished before 1500 Ad as 70% of land was unnecessary. Did like the fact that I didn't have to go over to the other continent.

 

[Pengu]

1500 AD Domination Victory

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Yep, 25 turns GAge confirmed.

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Libbed MT in 1150, turn after I met Hannibal. And finally met HC in 1220 - Hannibal was competent tech-wise (or so I thought but he had lots to backfill), and HC was building WW's.

It took me little longer then planned to fight JC again, I built some infra first and half-way in GAge switched for semi-unit production, except chose FReligion instead Theo for somewhat better research. In 1300 got Steel, in 1330 Rifling; upgraded 20 units to cannons and some to rifles and turn later declared. Last day of GAge switched to USuff & FSpeech.

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Took 4 of his cities and in 1420 he capped. I lost one of my poorly defended cities in between, but took it back next turn. Later I gave him back all of them as they were coming out of revolution and turned south toward Hammy while new stack was gathering east of his borders.

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Declared as soon as they healed, in 1470. Didn't even use cannons, 2-move units captured 3 poorly defended cities in first 2 turns of war when he capped in 1490. That was 65% for domination limit, so I gave him back all of cities (it was still over 64%, did it just to improve relations).

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Learned some, failed some, farmed a lot but had fun! Failed in my game speed, still played ~24h. Mostly cause I don't trust city governor nor automated workers - was checking most of cities most turns, thinking over it and setting them manually. Automated workers long after chain irrigated everything, I think after 1200 AD - with "Leave old improvements" set. I still had some "repairing" to do, and would do it manually.

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over 300000 pts

 

[Dubioza]

over 300000 pts

What was your score?

Most of what I planed, I played it almost flawless dare I say. Lost vs killed units far on my side; built 13, took 18 cities (lost 1, but took it back next turn); all AI's (except HC) pleased or friendly, big cities (180 farms!)...I wasn't even checking if score was going up or down late game, maybe it could've been even bigger. I just glanced through those high-score threads, but things mentioned raise the score...

 

[pepe26]

I don't really like losing a 6 food&hammer tile for +1F in the capital that much! It speed up worker and settler production much more than the mere +1F in the capital and does not come that much later (relative to settling on calendar resources like sugar, for example)

 

[Pengu]

What was your score?

Most of what I planed, I played it almost flawless dare I say. Lost vs killed units far on my side; built 13, took 18 cities (lost 1, but took it back next turn); all AI's (except HC) pleased or friendly, big cities (180 farms!)...I wasn't even checking if score was going up or down late game, maybe it could've been even bigger. I just glanced through those high-score threads, but things mentioned raise the score...

Around 215000
Built 9 cities, lost 1 and retook it and took another 27 cities.
My cities weren't that big though as I whipped some
2 remaining AI's HC and Hanni didn't like me.
I don't exactly know what runs up the score and I really never cared for it.

 

[Dubioza]

Still good score. I whipped early game, as later it was my ~30 cities against their ~10. Population gives almost half in score calc.

 

[Pengu]

Ah, didn't know that. I whipped way more than I needed to. Was no need for 50 cuirs vs Hammy.

 

[chessplaya]

Immortal, Normal Speed, to 1AD

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I moved the starting warrior 1SW and saw 2 unforested riverside hills, which gave me the idea to tech AH but maybe delay BW. Unfortunately this completely blocked the fish to the south, unless I want to settle on top of horses . My starting warrior was eaten by a bear, but managed to reveal some nice land for city 2:

With 2 gold resources near the start position and 2 of the best traits for an Oracle slingshot--creative for cheap libraries and industrious for cheaper Oracle--I decided to try for free Civil Service. I built libraries in both cities, ran 2 scientists for 17 turns in Paris to bulb math, and slow-built Oracle in Orleans, succeeding in 1400 BC:

I realized in 1000 BC that I had forgotten about chain-irrigation. This bothered me enough that I reloaded from 1400 BC, improving worker micro but keeping the same exploration and tech trades. After this I wonder-spammed: Pyramids in 550 BC (could have been sooner but I didn't think of it), Great Library in 450 BC, Hanging Gardens in 250 BC, all in Paris. Meanwhile JC had been plotting war for a very long time, and he declared war on Hammurabi in 550 BC. Hammy bribed in Hatty, and when he asked me to join in 275 BC, I just couldn't say no . Here's the tech situation at 1AD--I'm doing extremely well, mostly because of the CS slingshot but also thanks to friendly Hatty:

I can take peace with JC if I want for 65 gold. Cathy has been plotting war for the past few turns, and I think she is a backstabber, so this may be a smart idea. On the other hand, Cathy has Hammy as worst enemy, so probably she will declare on him and I can declare on her when I am ready.