Income and Reputation

[Blackbird_SR-71]

1. in my recent game i the romans am fighting india and and basically wiped out their entire civilization except for one last city on my home land. well i've been reluctant to capture that city because i've heard that if you capture the last city of a civ then you get a rep hit that is just like betraying your ally
so is this really true and i'm hopefully its not so i can wipe the indians off for good and not wait for some ai to take the last city.

2. also does spending a lot of money of your income drop your gpt or recieving a lot of money as a lump sum increase your gpt because in a game awhile back i was the americans and was at war with the entire world and well not surprisingly i had to rush lots of things in each city and pay for espionage constantly. and each time i spent about over 500 in lump sum my gpt went done but i mobilized my economy and i didn't stop the gpt from still falling but it helped keep my gpt at the same rate. basically i'm clueless in this area

thnx and would enjoy feedback as soon as possible especially for the first question

 

[sealman]

spending lump sums of money should have no direct effect on your GROSS GPT. However, it does have an indirect effect on your NET GPT because you have to then pay the upkeep on what you build. In other words, if you rush a temple for 100 GP, you will see that on your next turn, your gpt is down 1 gold. (more if you rush more buildings, may be up if your rush a income generating improvment, uneffected if your rush a no upkeep improvement, ect.)

Regarding your rep, IIRC, you may suffer a reputation hit if you eliminate the last city only if you have a miltary alliance against that civ. I have read some posts that say this is not true. I however, have never tried to prove one way or another. If you have not treaties against that civ, ie miltary alliance or trade embargo, you should suffer no rep hit.

 

[dmanakho]

Spending a lump sum of money can have a direct effect on your GPT if you have wall street built...
with wall street the more money you have the more revenue you get with 50 gold cap i believe....

 

[smackster]

Regarding your rep, IIRC, you may suffer a reputation hit if you eliminate the last city only if you have a miltary alliance against that civ. I have read some posts that say this is not true. I however, have never tried to prove one way or another. If you have not treaties against that civ, ie miltary alliance or trade embargo, you should suffer no rep hit.

No you can safely destroy them and the alliance is correctly disolved, I've done it many times. I think it may have been an early bug, but also as people get so confused about rep that they often blame this.

Smackster

 

[alamo]

There is a cap on what Wall St gives, something like 400 gpt max on treasury of 2000g (2%).

As far as rep hit, I'm not sure. Something like a raze city may occur. Other AI's tend to be more cautious if they know about it.

 

[smackster]

As far as rep hit, I'm not sure. Something like a raze city may occur. Other AI's tend to be more cautious if they know about it.

Although attitude seems to have a limited effect in this game, and razing only effects attitude. Breaking your rep is a whole lot worse.

Smackster

 

[sealman]

No you can safely destroy them and the alliance is correctly disolved, I've done it many times. I think it may have been an early bug, but also as people get so confused about rep that they often blame this.

Smackster

That is the issue for me. I have heard both answers with both sides of swearing that they are correct. At this stage, I need to physically prove it to myself one way or the other and I just have not done that yet.

But, according to what you say, it works the way it should.

 

[smackster]

That is the issue for me. I have heard both answers with both sides of swearing that they are correct. At this stage, I need to physically prove it to myself one way or the other and I just have not done that yet.

But, according to what you say, it works the way it should.

Its certainly easy to test. Make sure you save the game before you destroy somebody, and that you are in a position to buy something from anybody for GPT, and then destroy them. See the effect and post back here. And post the save.

 

[juballs2001]

There is a cap on what Wall St gives, something like 400 gpt max on treasury of 2000g (2%).

As far as rep hit, I'm not sure. Something like a raze city may occur. Other AI's tend to be more cautious if they know about it.

man this is not true its 50 gpt on 1000 gold...and it will only drop the gpt if u get under 1000...as for ur rep. it was an early bug, and the latest patch should correct it