bradleyfeanor
King
OH MY GOD! I'm number 10! I'm number 10! [dance]Sandman, you are now my new favorite person in the world.
Increased Competition in the GPR
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OH MY GOD! I'm number 10! I'm number 10! [dance]Sandman, you are now my new favorite person in the world.
Mistfit
Deity
Thanks for the explaination. It help in my goal for future world domination. 
samildanach
Necrophile
Good post Sandman2003!
Hopefully M-B will remain tied up with the SGOTM. Ronald will play OCC and 3CC as he said he will. Toyo and dynamic will continue to play intermitently. If all this happens who knows who could slip into the top 10
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Hopefully M-B will remain tied up with the SGOTM. Ronald will play OCC and 3CC as he said he will. Toyo and dynamic will continue to play intermitently. If all this happens who knows who could slip into the top 10
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Sandman2003
Prince
bradleyfeanor - if you play five more months in a row with the same results you are getting now, then you will be in the top ten for real.
samildanach - I can see where this comes from - you were one of the big movers after my extrapolation exercise!samildanach said:Good post Sandman2003!
Hopefully M-B will remain tied up with the SGOTM. Ronald will play OCC and 3CC as he said he will. Toyo and dynamic will continue to play intermitently. If all this happens who knows who could slip into the top 10
Darkness
Shadow creature
samildanach said:
The competition is getting tougher each game. Now (after GOTM35) there are already 29 players with a GPR of over 300 points! A top 20 position requires more than 324 points now!
Very impressive, people!
MOTH
Emperor
Only 1 person pointed out that this could be something to with that there are now 2 games at each age for recent games. Counting the best score between COTM and GOTM will allow for anomolies such as a barb killing an early settler or even a very early conquest lost can be entirely offset by playing well in the 'other' games that bracket the bad performance.
A smaller bit of math that also factors in is that 2 different people now score 100 each month. As the top players usually score in the 90%+ range with normal variations. Lets call it 5% variation for each age and we'll devide by 2 again for the average of COTM and GOTM for 2.5% per game age. This would represent an average gain of 8 points now and 12.5 points once we have 9 COTMs in the table.
My statistical analysis is a bit rusty, so some of these numbers are WAGs.
What's a WAG you might ask: WAG = Wild A** Guess
I think we will see the trend for higher scores start to level back off once there are 9 COTMS in the table.
A smaller bit of math that also factors in is that 2 different people now score 100 each month. As the top players usually score in the 90%+ range with normal variations. Lets call it 5% variation for each age and we'll devide by 2 again for the average of COTM and GOTM for 2.5% per game age. This would represent an average gain of 8 points now and 12.5 points once we have 9 COTMs in the table.
My statistical analysis is a bit rusty, so some of these numbers are WAGs.
What's a WAG you might ask: WAG = Wild A** Guess
I think we will see the trend for higher scores start to level back off once there are 9 COTMS in the table.
solenoozerec
Stranger
MOTH said:
It does other things too. When I saw GOTM35 results (I did not play this one), I went to global raiting to see how far I felt.
What a surprise it was to see that I actualy jumped from 150th place to 88th place.
The resaon is that AlanH is changing game pairing, so both of my recent games are taken in account now.
But I did not realize that this means that you can go up in raiting without playing
My handmaiden, P-H-P, does it actually
I told her what to do a couple of months ago and she just gets on with it.Wait a couple of weeks and it'll straighten out again. Or wait a month if you like it the way it is. If you want to compare like with like you should look at the rankings once a month, like those of us who can only play once a month. If you want to feel good, just look at it every time you get a good score.
samildanach
Necrophile
Darkness said:The competition is getting tougher each game. Now (after GOTM35) there are already 29 players with a GPR of over 300 points! A top 20 position requires more than 324 points now!
Very impressive, people!
Yes. Competition is getting stiffer further down the rankings as well. Civgeeks GPR of 150 represents a new high at that position and is double what you would have needed to beat to get into the top 100 a few months ago. Also CdBs GPR of 226 is new high at the number 50 position.
GOTM 35
1. Kuningas 468
5. smackster 408
10. Drazek 378
20. Demiurge 324
50. CdB 226
100. Civgeek 150
Darkness
Shadow creature
samildanach said:Yeah! 2010 and can't come soon enough for me!
Flying cars aswell
I think I saw a flying car this morning....
Must have slept for 6 years then....
samildanach
Necrophile
Darkness said:I think I saw a flying car this morning....
Cool aren't they!
Darkness said:Must have slept for 6 years then....
Nah! That's what happens when you go histographic. The years just fly by.
Congrats
LeSphinx
Bachogwa
What is GPR?
thanks
LeSphinx
thanks
LeSphinx
Global Player Rankings. You can get to the rankings from the main GOTM page, but here's a quick link : http://gotm.civfanatics.net/rankings/global.php
LeSphinx
Bachogwa
Oups
Thanks Dianthus
LeSphinx
Thanks Dianthus
LeSphinx
Xerol
Emperor
I just noticed, that even though my score has doubled since GOTM 31, I've dropped about 50 rankings. This month isn't gonna help either...
Since I don't have conquests(yet), how comparable are GOTM/COTM difficulties in the same month?
Since I don't have conquests(yet), how comparable are GOTM/COTM difficulties in the same month?
The difficulties are intentionally not the same. That doesn't mean you're any better off playing one rather than the other though. Your score is relative to the best players score, so if you score higher on a low difficulty level you can bet that the best players score higher as well, so your relative score would be about the same.QwertySoft said:
The main effect of having two games a month at different difficulty levels will be on players who might lose the higher difficulty game but win the other one. If, like me, you only play one game, then you have to take your lumps if your only game is deity and you lose it.
Sandman2003
Prince
There are two factors which have nothing to do with players abilities that are helping push up GPR at the moment.
1) The removal of ageing by difficulty level. Pre-conquests, the different difficulty levels had different ageing attributed to them. If I understand the older system correctly, Deity games were aged over nine months, but emperor were aged over eight, monarchy over seven and regent over six. The impact on expected GPR scores from this is quite significant. Now the maximum possible GPR is 500. Under the prior system the maximum available would vary a little bit depending on the difficulties played, but as an example, using the last nine classic games (from GOTM37, backwards), the maximum GPR would have been 412.5
Thus ageing all games over the same nine months results in approx 21% increase in GPR.
2) The ability to pick your best of two games in the month. This results in a smaller impact than 1 above, but nonetheless important, especially given that the games are played on different difficulty levels. The impact from this is also greater for us moderate players, versus the elite who consistently score in the top ten, since the elite will be getting the top scores on both difficulties. On the other hand, the moderate players score is likely to be spread more on the harder difficulty levels.
eg, My current GPR is 311.74, but if I could only use score from the COTMs, then my GPR would be 292.015, or GOTMs 294.098 for an approx 6.4% improvement.
Eg2, for an elite player, eg SirPleb, current GPR is 424.474. Using COTMs plus pre COTM1 GOTMs results in 417.517, or GOTMs 392.438 for an approx 4.8% improvement.
So between these two effects there is a rise in GPR of about 27%, without considering the competitivew level to have increased. Also, if you were to consistently play only one series, I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that you would score better using GOTM or COTM as your chosen series.
1) The removal of ageing by difficulty level. Pre-conquests, the different difficulty levels had different ageing attributed to them. If I understand the older system correctly, Deity games were aged over nine months, but emperor were aged over eight, monarchy over seven and regent over six. The impact on expected GPR scores from this is quite significant. Now the maximum possible GPR is 500. Under the prior system the maximum available would vary a little bit depending on the difficulties played, but as an example, using the last nine classic games (from GOTM37, backwards), the maximum GPR would have been 412.5
Thus ageing all games over the same nine months results in approx 21% increase in GPR.
2) The ability to pick your best of two games in the month. This results in a smaller impact than 1 above, but nonetheless important, especially given that the games are played on different difficulty levels. The impact from this is also greater for us moderate players, versus the elite who consistently score in the top ten, since the elite will be getting the top scores on both difficulties. On the other hand, the moderate players score is likely to be spread more on the harder difficulty levels.
eg, My current GPR is 311.74, but if I could only use score from the COTMs, then my GPR would be 292.015, or GOTMs 294.098 for an approx 6.4% improvement.
Eg2, for an elite player, eg SirPleb, current GPR is 424.474. Using COTMs plus pre COTM1 GOTMs results in 417.517, or GOTMs 392.438 for an approx 4.8% improvement.
So between these two effects there is a rise in GPR of about 27%, without considering the competitivew level to have increased. Also, if you were to consistently play only one series, I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that you would score better using GOTM or COTM as your chosen series.
Demiurge
Warlord
That is the case on a game-by-game basis, but since this thread is about the GPR, AlanH is on the mark. The player who can only participate in one event is at a decided disadvantage with the current method of oscillating between a difficult and easy game in each contest within a month. However I do understand the advantages of this method for the simple reason that it increases player participation. I'm dreading seeing how far my GPR will drop after submitting a loss in GOTM37 though.Dianthus said:
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