Indian War Plan
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I think I'm going to load the save for the first time this game. Could be interesting.
MOTH
Emperor
Commander,
What is your thoughts on when we will be ready to launch the attack on India?
A little info gathered from Civ Assist and Crpstats:
We currently have 6 reg warriors and 4 vet Swords.
In production we have: Settler in 1 turn, Chariot in 2 turns, Sword in 3 turns, Barracks in 2 turns, Vet warrior in 4 turns, Reg warrior in 3 turns.
Assuming the 6-8 Swords is the number you want and if we want to attack in about 5 turns we should make the following changes:
Camelot: Settler switch to Sword in 1 turn
Donsignia: Chariot in 2 turns to Sword in 3 turns
After the current production we should continue to produce vet warriors in Bentley.
Camelot should produce 1 settler and grow back to size 5 and we should produce vet Chariots in Camelot, donsignia, Roosting Tree, and Provolutia after this in preparation for upgrade and a Dutch war.
What is your thoughts on when we will be ready to launch the attack on India?
A little info gathered from Civ Assist and Crpstats:
We currently have 6 reg warriors and 4 vet Swords.
In production we have: Settler in 1 turn, Chariot in 2 turns, Sword in 3 turns, Barracks in 2 turns, Vet warrior in 4 turns, Reg warrior in 3 turns.
Assuming the 6-8 Swords is the number you want and if we want to attack in about 5 turns we should make the following changes:
Camelot: Settler switch to Sword in 1 turn
Donsignia: Chariot in 2 turns to Sword in 3 turns
After the current production we should continue to produce vet warriors in Bentley.
Camelot should produce 1 settler and grow back to size 5 and we should produce vet Chariots in Camelot, donsignia, Roosting Tree, and Provolutia after this in preparation for upgrade and a Dutch war.
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Yes MOTH I think that you are right. It's difficult to swap a settler for a sword, but it can be done in our present situation I think. I don't think we HAVE to go to war in EXACTLY 5 turns, but it should be the target.
I posted a war plan some time ago that I still like. The Map is a bit old but it's still fairly relevent.
Yellow dots. Indian war jump points.
Green dots. Dutch war jump points.
Red arrows. Primary Objective.
Blue arrows. Secondary objective.
Start war with 8 swords vs Delhi, and then take Bombay.
5 or 6 turns later attack Rotterdam and the Hague on the same turn. 5 Horses used vs the Hague, and perhaps a few turns healing and reinforcement for the northern stack.
If the RNG is with us, then continue to take the Dutch capital and spices.
End result will be complete control of our sector of the map.
3 new sources of iron.
2 sources of horses (since we take Groningen in the Peace Deal).
1 source of silks min.
1 source of spices (maybe)
No iron for India or the Dutch.
It may be worth thinking about taking Madras too, but primarily the Indian war is only intended to secure our position, get another lux and set us up for the main event, which is the Dutch campaign.
I posted a war plan some time ago that I still like. The Map is a bit old but it's still fairly relevent.
Yellow dots. Indian war jump points.
Green dots. Dutch war jump points.
Red arrows. Primary Objective.
Blue arrows. Secondary objective.
Start war with 8 swords vs Delhi, and then take Bombay.
5 or 6 turns later attack Rotterdam and the Hague on the same turn. 5 Horses used vs the Hague, and perhaps a few turns healing and reinforcement for the northern stack.
If the RNG is with us, then continue to take the Dutch capital and spices.
End result will be complete control of our sector of the map.
3 new sources of iron.
2 sources of horses (since we take Groningen in the Peace Deal).
1 source of silks min.
1 source of spices (maybe)
No iron for India or the Dutch.
It may be worth thinking about taking Madras too, but primarily the Indian war is only intended to secure our position, get another lux and set us up for the main event, which is the Dutch campaign.
Good analysis, Moth; I agree with everything. I particularly agree about changing the settler to a sword. In the near future we may want to consider building a worker in Camelot (itll grow again quickly) in between producing chariots. We may even want to consider joining a worker to Roosting Tree so it can grow and become more productive.
M-B, I continue to like your battle strategy. Taking Madras is an interesting wrinkle. Id be inclined to send troops in that direction to help convince India to give us a generous peace settlement; and if they dont, then we can take Madras. Its just as easy to attack Rotterdam from Madras as it is from Bombay, so this doesnt really change the overall strategy. Ill be very interested to see the ultimate particulars of how CivGeneral decides to execute the strategy. Hes going to have some fun battles to plan!
M-B, I continue to like your battle strategy. Taking Madras is an interesting wrinkle. Id be inclined to send troops in that direction to help convince India to give us a generous peace settlement; and if they dont, then we can take Madras. Its just as easy to attack Rotterdam from Madras as it is from Bombay, so this doesnt really change the overall strategy. Ill be very interested to see the ultimate particulars of how CivGeneral decides to execute the strategy. Hes going to have some fun battles to plan!
RegentMan
Deity
I still want to do a Dutch first war. However, if we are destined to wage an Indian war first, then I suggest annexing their entire nation. There's no point in keeping Gandhi alive with a few cities. He'll never be able to trade techs with us, nor any significant amounts of gold. Heck, he may even sneak-attack us with a military alliance that another AI proposes.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
I agree. If we are going to attack India first, which basically is the easy option, then we are going to have to destroy them. There is no point going half hearted in a war.RegentMan said:
MOTH
Emperor
We will destroy India, just not in this first round of war. We will capture 2 or 3 core Indian cities and get a few small outlying size 1 cities in the peace treaty. Later we can come back and finish the job.
If we try to wipe them out during this round there are 2 problems:
1. We will auto-raze at least 2 of their cities, thus hurting our standing with the other AIs.
2. We will delay the war with the Dutch too long and could be facing their UU.
If we try to wipe them out during this round there are 2 problems:
1. We will auto-raze at least 2 of their cities, thus hurting our standing with the other AIs.
2. We will delay the war with the Dutch too long and could be facing their UU.
Agreed a small, goal-specific war is ideal vs. India. Capture the capital for less flip risk of Bentley, and Bombay for the Silks (if we go Republic, we need luxuries). Those cities won't have lots of flip risk, as they'll still be relatively close to our capital. We can then hope to attack the Dutch with either swords or Knights/MDIs before they get massive amounts of Swiss Mercenaries. mad-bax and MOTH hit the nail on the head.
Nobody
Gangster
you need a snazy operation name, e.g. Operation Cow Cutter. (because we will be taking the citys that have cows, and because there is a indian city with a simliar name hahaha)
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Just to confurm to the department that is complaining that I am steping on their toes and exciding the objectives.
The Red Arrows are the Primary Routes that go in terms with the Objectives the EAs has set. The Green Arrows are Secondary Routes, In the event India does not accept the terms of our offer of peace or if we decide to capture any more Indian cities (whichever comes first)
The Red Arrows are the Primary Routes that go in terms with the Objectives the EAs has set. The Green Arrows are Secondary Routes, In the event India does not accept the terms of our offer of peace or if we decide to capture any more Indian cities (whichever comes first)
