Indoctrinated - God and Kings Achievment

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Indoctrinated

Lose dominant status in your holy city to an opponent's religion.

So, I was thinking, because I play on easier difficulties (Warlord) I realised that the above achievement, a lot like the Get Ransacked by Barbarians, is very unlikely to come naturally... but then it hit me..

I mean, we don't know how Inquisitors and Missionaries actually work, so i figured out this scenario.

My empire has 4 cities. City A, City B, City C, City D.

City A is my capital, and is the Holy City for Judaism.
City B, C are also following Judaism.
However, because City D is close to anothe empire, and it's rather further away from my own empire, the other empire's religion spread to it, making the majority religion in City D Shinto.

So I'm thinking, if I buy a missionary in City D, will it become a Shinto Missionary? And if I buy a missionary, will it become a Jewish Missionary?

So if the above is true, all you have to do, is buy a Missionary in City D, move it to City A, and spread it 2 times to make it the majority.. or buy another missionary to make sure it becomes the majority religion.

 

[Pouakai]

I think the missionary will follow state religion

 

[Raiki]

I think the missionary will follow state religion

This seems like the most likely outcome to me, as well. Since missionaries are purchased with faith -which is an empire-level value, not a city level value- they will almost certainly all be the same religion.

~R~

 

[MadDjinn]

I think the missionary will follow state religion

This seems like the most likely outcome to me, as well. Since missionaries are purchased with faith -which is an empire-level value, not a city level value- they will almost certainly all be the same religion.

~R~

and what happens when you didn't found a religion and have 3 cities with a different religion in each?

 

[Raiki]

and what happens when you didn't found a religion and have 3 cities with a different religion in each?

I don't know about Pouakai, but I'm operating under the assumption that if you don't found a religion you will have to select a state religion from the ones available to you. This seems to be at least indirectly supported based on the diplomatic bonuses and penalties you receive based on your religion. It would hardly make sense for Isabella to hate London because it's Taoist, but love York because it's Zoroastrian.

Obviously the specifics of how and when you choose your state religion aren't known, but that it exists seems fairly certain.

So to answer your question: The missionary would be of whatever religion you stamped yourself with.

~R~

 

[Liex]

and what happens when you didn't found a religion and have 3 cities with a different religion in each?

Perhaps it has something to do with the number of followers through your whole empire. If your citizens follow a high variety of religions, but the majority follows Tengriism, then it becomes your "state religion". But I don't think we heard anything about this to be sure.

 

[Babri]

and what happens when you didn't found a religion and have 3 cities with a different religion in each?

I think that will depend upon ur state religion. IIRC lately a preview mentioned about a CS quest that u convert to their religion which could mean that a civ has to choose a state religion.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I don't know about Pouakai, but I'm operating under the assumption that if you don't found a religion you will have to select a state religion from the ones available to you. This seems to be at least indirectly supported based on the diplomatic bonuses and penalties you receive based on your religion. It would hardly make sense for Isabella to hate London because it's Taoist, but love York because it's Zoroastrian.

Obviously the specifics of how and when you choose your state religion aren't known, but that it exists seems fairly certain.

So to answer your question: The missionary would be of whatever religion you stamped yourself with.

~R~

One of the recent previews stated that one of the new city-state quests is to convert to the religion of the city-state. That would seem to support the idea that you have an official state religion.

 

[Raiki]

One of the recent previews stated that one of the new city-state quests is to convert to the religion of the city-state. That would seem to support the idea that you have an official state religion.

I had seen that, I just promptly forgot about it. So...yeah. Looks like there's the (likely) answer.

~R~

 

[Baleur]

Why actively try to get an achievement anyway? It's a fail-achievement, just like the ransacked by barbarians one.. They are just a method of showing you how you've been playing the game. I don't understand people that intentionally change how they play just to get an achievement, even one that requires them to fail in a specific way. What is the point?

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Why actively try to get an achievement anyway? It's a fail-achievement, just like the ransacked by barbarians one.. They are just a method of showing you how you've been playing the game. I don't understand people that intentionally change how they play just to get an achievement, even one that requires them to fail in a specific way. What is the point?

Simple - replay value.. something to do. I like achievements, I don't know why, O.C.D maybe.. all I know is.. if you don't like it, don't to it. I've been part of enough threads that were derailed because somebody did not share the same views and they did not end pretty.

 

[Seek]

Should be easy enough even with a state religion: switch into your opponent's religion, buy a few missionaries and expend them in your capital/holy city. Achievement achieved, switch back into your religion and repeat the process. (Not that I care about achievements either...)

 

[awesome]

and what happens when you didn't found a religion and have 3 cities with a different religion in each?

at the very least, you don't get the achievement.