Infernal Lords - who are they, where do they come from, why are there so many, and how do you kill the bloody things?
I'm playing my first game taking over as Basium. I have played a few Fire games and came up against Hyborem, but I don't remember having to deal with Infernal Lords like this.
1. I saw a couple at Counter 700 (about yr. 500 in my Epic/Prince game) when the Hell Holes opened up. There were a couple of Balors with them. They were tough, but I killed them with some strong angels I had.
2. Fast forward about 50 turns and the map is loaded with them. I counted 24 and I am sure there were more hidden I could not count. I do not understand this as the Civlopedia says the Infernal Lord is a National Unit with a limit of 3. Basium can handle one, but they are coming in stacks with 3-4 in them. Even my strongest Angels are having problems. They are mowing down AI civs who are defending with Hunters, Axemen, Chariots, the occasional Ranger, etc. No other Tier IV units are in the game yet.
3. Where do they come from? Again, the Civlopedia says you cannot build them, they need to be Level 6 already. Yet, somehow the Infernal has loads of them and they keep appearing even after you kill them.
4. How do you kill them? I sent Basium to take an Infernal city with 2 defenders. When he arrived there was an Infernal Lord there too. I killed him. Next turn another Infernal Lord, next another, you get the idea. OK, they have the Immortal promotion, but I thought that only worked once. Also, with no roads or access to the city, how do they keep appearing in the SAME city? Teleporting in?
5. Finally, I just don't get the Infernal economy. He has about 12 cities, I have 9. I counted more than 140 Infernal units and I am sure there were some I could not see. He had at least 7 defenders in each city, at least 7 units on visibile Hell Holes, and a number of roving stacks again with at least 7 units. I had about half this number of units. I had to lower my research to 50% to have a gold loss in the minus 30 range. I have built all the financial improvements, I doubt if Hyborem has. Yet, he has all those units and still manages to show a small amount of gold each turn. How does that work?
Sorry for my denseness and maybe I am missing something by just reading the Civlopedia and playing my first game with Basium.
PS. One more - the city I took over from the Kuriotates, who I was playing, had the Catacomb Libralus in it. Still, my new cities are required to build Mage Guilds - I don't understand that one.
Thanks.
I'm playing my first game taking over as Basium. I have played a few Fire games and came up against Hyborem, but I don't remember having to deal with Infernal Lords like this.
1. I saw a couple at Counter 700 (about yr. 500 in my Epic/Prince game) when the Hell Holes opened up. There were a couple of Balors with them. They were tough, but I killed them with some strong angels I had.
2. Fast forward about 50 turns and the map is loaded with them. I counted 24 and I am sure there were more hidden I could not count. I do not understand this as the Civlopedia says the Infernal Lord is a National Unit with a limit of 3. Basium can handle one, but they are coming in stacks with 3-4 in them. Even my strongest Angels are having problems. They are mowing down AI civs who are defending with Hunters, Axemen, Chariots, the occasional Ranger, etc. No other Tier IV units are in the game yet.
3. Where do they come from? Again, the Civlopedia says you cannot build them, they need to be Level 6 already. Yet, somehow the Infernal has loads of them and they keep appearing even after you kill them.
4. How do you kill them? I sent Basium to take an Infernal city with 2 defenders. When he arrived there was an Infernal Lord there too. I killed him. Next turn another Infernal Lord, next another, you get the idea. OK, they have the Immortal promotion, but I thought that only worked once. Also, with no roads or access to the city, how do they keep appearing in the SAME city? Teleporting in?
5. Finally, I just don't get the Infernal economy. He has about 12 cities, I have 9. I counted more than 140 Infernal units and I am sure there were some I could not see. He had at least 7 defenders in each city, at least 7 units on visibile Hell Holes, and a number of roving stacks again with at least 7 units. I had about half this number of units. I had to lower my research to 50% to have a gold loss in the minus 30 range. I have built all the financial improvements, I doubt if Hyborem has. Yet, he has all those units and still manages to show a small amount of gold each turn. How does that work?
Sorry for my denseness and maybe I am missing something by just reading the Civlopedia and playing my first game with Basium.
PS. One more - the city I took over from the Kuriotates, who I was playing, had the Catacomb Libralus in it. Still, my new cities are required to build Mage Guilds - I don't understand that one.
Thanks.
