Not connecting the second city was deliberate. I wanted the food and the site looked like the strongest nearby city, but didn't want to lose the ability to churn out fast warriors if needed. The barbs had given me trouble in the past. T50 may be too late to be worrying about that, but since I still hadn't fogbusted the East, I felt I still needed the warriors.
Actually, that's exactly what I did.
Haha !
), the second worker would come later. Here, it is a combination of low production in the cap, forest spam ( = expendable) and early BW that justifies the 2nd worker. But the key motto should be : improve the tiles.
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But the copper was still unhooked. So even if the city had been connected, you'd still have been able to build warriors. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
Maces!! On Monarch!! 150BC!! Since CS is a 300AD job for me if I'm lucky on Monarch, I'd love to know howGave this one a shot; been a while since I played on monarch. This is quite a fun map. Given that it was monarch and I had triple gems...
Spoiler :
triple gems
and oracle CS.i did think Oracle would be involved somewhere still gotta both tech CoL and build it before anyone else. I'm sure I done worse with better starts.triple gems
Hmmmm... I feel like the investigation of this map is going to branch. No doubt there is a lot cover in terms of tightening up my early game. I also took another swing at it yesterday, and was able to completely obliterate Shaka by T105 (which I hadn't achieved on any previous run). I was then a bit lost as to how to proceed most efficiently (more war vs econ focus). Finally, I am very interested in exploring Fish Man's oracling of CS. I haven't done that in years, and only ever on lower difficulties.This is your thread. We can look at other points if you want :
- how to develop fish city (more on workers and priorities and synchronization <-- which is much of the management game...
- how to defend against a Shaka DoW if you want to provide a WB save (maybe it's doomed, maybe it's possible even in an emergency).
You tell, maybe something else is of interest to you
No, you got it right. Not entirely sure what my thinking was here. I guess I assumed, that if I wasn't hooking up the copper, then connecting the cities wasn't a priority. That feels like a lot of worker turns just for the trade route. Am I calculating that wrong, or are there other benefits for connecting the cities?
Totally baffled by how this is possible. Expansion + Tech + Wonders are all competing priorities for me. No idea how you managed to do all three, even on such an easy map. I guess if I knew how, I wouldn't be struggling on Monarch.
That's some essential early commerce. Means the city practically pays for itself. Of course, you had gems and this is Monarch, so you got away with it, but on a commerce-poor start on Immortal this could have gotten you into some trouble.
Got it. Many thanks.
Btw, this is true, and it's why we normally prioritize natural connections by river and coast within the cultural borders. But sometimes you don't have a choice.
, and frankly, bashing harder and longer doesn't seem to be getting me the results I'm hoping for.Yes. You don't even need to run ahead in tech of the AI like that in order to win. Equal amount of cities, equal amount of tech is usually enough on deity. So calm down.
You need to forget results for a while. Focus on learning new skills, that's the important part. You are doing a good job withI'm really not sure where I should go from here in terms of trying to get better. I'm happy to put the effort in, but really, I'm just
, probably the most important skill there is. 
At least for me, perceived improvement comes in bursts.
Thanks sampsa. I'm somewhat convinced that in the future I'll look back and see two things that really impeded my progress:Yes. You don't even need to run ahead in tech of the AI like that in order to win. Equal amount of cities, equal amount of tech is usually enough on deity. So calm down.
You need to forget results for a while. Focus on learning new skills, that's the important part. You are doing a good job with
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Yes, maybe chop for granary.
Ah, that changes everything. Most, if not all of your cities should be building wealth.
Reasonable, if you can get IW via trade. Also consider the possibility of going calendar-IW?
). Long term, Joao is definitely the biggest threat, but Boudica is plotting.
-tile (gems in 2nd city is unworked) and build capital river cottages. Now you see how useless those mines are... Probably you don't need more units. Settler ok, though not sure if you should settle it immediately. Could also consider city gift to Budi and beg for peace? Then you could delete a lot of your old units that only cost upkeep.
