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I second that motion
Intergalactic War
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Masquerouge
Deity
Well frankly the OP is heavily skewed against Star Wars, since it only includes the motion pictures, not the expanded universe...
Well this is beggining of ROTJ so there's only one Jedi and two Sith... I don't see how they can have much effect in the massive space battles though...?
Alan Bradely
Chieftain
Wikipedia on Star Gate
As you can see, way superior to the force...
For this to work, you'd have to pit all three universes against him.
Then he'd win
That gives them a complete galaxy's worth of resources. Their StarDestroyers are brutally powerful.
Yuri2356
Test Screening
While the Higher-ups of Stargate can certainly compete with the raw power awailible to Wars, they're mostly too undeveloped to put up a fight against a heavily populated and industrialised Galaxy. The Asguard are on the verge of extinction, the Goa'uld and Ori economies rely on keeping their underlings ignorant of science and high technology (Crippling their ability to mass-produce) , Not to mention how the Ori are now cut off from their entire leadership, due to the ban on ascended beings. No-Ascendants also rules out the near all of the not-dead ancients, making them almost a non-factor.
The Fleets of the Empire will prevail.
The Fleets of the Empire will prevail.
Alan Bradely
Chieftain
Fine, it's not as if the expanded universe has much more to offer than Yuuzan Vong, who are about equal to the New Republic
Oh, really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_Stargate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daedalus_class_battlecruiser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_Weapon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha%27tak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ori_technology_in_Stargate
Now you have a new definition for 'brutally powerful'.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Galactica. All other universes suck because of the particle of the week solutions and ***** acting.
Masquerouge
Deity
Well we could also mention the Star Forge...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Forge
You did not even mention the Dakara Superweapon!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakara_Superweapon
Alan Bradely
Chieftain
Their are no more than 1000 true line-of-battle star ships in Star Wars, yes? Sorry, but the best 20 of Star gate's ships would be able to tear apart a typical 'massive' Star wars star fleet (see the biggest fleet ever, for the Republic defense of Coruscant for Y.V.), and land warfare would be suicide for Star wars. Besides the fact that Planetary shields are no use to them anymore, re: Tallan Phase-somethingy technology. Say good bye to large populations and industry.
Then there are the mental differences. Star wars people, especially Rep. and Jedi, can't stomach dirty wars, and don't have the cruel edge of the Ori and Gou'aold.
We're just to vicious for you. We have no moral compuncions.
Masquerouge
Deity
Then there are the mental differences. Star wars people, especially Rep. and Jedi, can't stomach dirty wars, and don't have the cruel edge of the Ori and Gou'aold.
That's incorrect. The Sith and the Yuuzhan Vong can stomach dirty wars.
Their are no more than 1000 true line-of-battle star ships in Star Wars, yes? Sorry, but the best 20 of Star gate's ships would be able to tear apart a typical 'massive' Star wars star fleet (see the biggest fleet ever, for the Republic defense of Coruscant for Y.V.), and land warfare would be suicide for Star wars. Besides the fact that Planetary shields are no use to them anymore, re: Tallan Phase-somethingy technology. Say good bye to large populations and industry.
Then there are the mental differences. Star wars people, especially Rep. and Jedi, can't stomach dirty wars, and don't have the cruel edge of the Ori and Gou'aold.
While The Borg and Species 8472 combine both atributes massive numbers, high tech, and absolutely no morals whatsoever.
Evil Tyrant
Eccentric Dictator
The Sith are few, and just for irony, the Replicators will be assigned to eating the Yuuzhan Vong. Mol shak'na kree!
Alan Bradely
Chieftain
Re: Star Forge. Destroyed thousands of years ago, and easily destroyed anyways once location determined.
Re: Dakara Superweapon. Oops! How could I forget!
And then, just in case Jedi mind control fails,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_%28Stargate%29
Masquerouge
Deity
I guess it depends on when exactly we're taking the snapshot of the Universes, something the OP didn't address.
Why do you assume we should use the Star Wars Universe at the time of the motion pictures?
If we do that, then in all fairness you have to use the StarGate universe at the time of the motion picture... and in the motion picture there is only one goau'ld left in the Universe, who gets killed, and no mention of the Ori
Evil Tyrant
Eccentric Dictator
Stargate has long since outgrown the first movie. Canon stuff is now anything in the series. Besides, The Yuuzhan Vong are non movie, and I had no problem assigning the replicators to eating them.I guess it depends on when exactly we're taking the snapshot of the Universes, something the OP didn't address.
Why do you assume we should use the Star Wars Universe at the time of the motion pictures?
If we do that, then in all fairness you have to use the StarGate universe at the time of the motion picture... and in the motion picture there is only one goau'ld left in the Universe, who gets killed, and no mention of the Ori
Masquerouge
Deity
Stargate has long since outgrown the first movie. Canon stuff is now anything in the series. Besides, The Yuuzhan Vong are non movie, and I had no problem assigning the replicators to eating them.
Allright, then Star Wars has also outgrown the movie. It ranges from circa 40,000 years BBY up to 100 years ABY.
Evil Tyrant
Eccentric Dictator
It makes no difference, they will still be brought in chains to kneel before their gods.(we will work out exactly who those gods are after the Stargate universe wins, there are several claimants after all)
Yuri2356
Test Screening
It has little things like Base-Delta-Zero orders - Bombardment from a single Star Destroyer that's so powerful, it can reduce a planet's surface to slag metal. This same degree of firepower is incapable of defeating Planetary shields employed by develloped planets in the Wars Galaxy, but the Empire has larger weapons capable of defeating said shields over the span of about a week. The Death Star overpowered such shields in a fraction of a second, and the Empire's industries are develloped enough to build a station more than five times it's diameter* in less than a year, in secret.
*That's ~78.5 times the volume, just so you know.
Where did you get this number, other than thin air?
Detailed analysis performed here concludes far greater numbers. (25,000 Star destroyers over 20 years, and the two Death Stars over five Years = Massive capacity to build/maintain ships)
Any proof behind this?
Star Wars, that uses NBC protected infantry, Armoured vehicles, Artilery, combat robots, and wide variety of man-portable energy weapons, while having sufficently large armies to wage war across an entire galaxy, with land invasions of dozens of planets at any given time - vs - Empires who use primitive tactics, horribly unergonomic weapons, and armour that wouldn't look out of place in medevil europe.
Suicide indeed.
The Tollans were exterminated by the Goa'uld. Prove that their phase-shifting technology escaped their demise, and then prove that it can be used to pass through energy fields on the scale of power that Star Wars can generate.
Masquerouge
Deity
Pah. Take your Egyptian walk and go through that crack in the wall before you get your ass kicked by the laserwhip!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightwhip#Lightwhip