Is civ 6 PC

[Kupe Navigator]

I have heard from numerous people that Civ frenchaise is becoming too PC and I will say... not really?
I don't get why they would say Civ is putting PC over gameplay.
Civ 6 has problems don't get me wrong, but PC ISN'T one of them.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

As I have said before, no matter what Firaxis does, somebody will always find a bloody way to be offended, no matter how minuscule and inconsequential that reason might be.

It might be due to using an X instead of a Cross on a ship sail design, or choosing a male Leader over a Female Leader, or choosing three Civilizations from Europe, but whatever the reason, someone will decide that they need to be offended.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

As I have said before, no matter what Firaxis does, somebody will always find a bloody way to be offended, no matter how minuscule and inconsequential that reason might be.

to people who say civ is PC....
did they not see other game company? Fraxis is TAME compared to things like EA and Blizzard.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Political correctness is a process everyone should be striving for and engaging in. No one will be perfect, but it is the conscientiousness of being aware of inequity and at least trying to mitigate it that makes society run more smoothly.

In that respect, I do think that Civ VI, like most popular media these days, is politically correct. At least as a general aspiration, it is trying temper milennia of viewing history through a lens of bigotry and exceptionalism (along many axes).

And people shouldn't take any issue with that.

 

[iammaxhailme]

Is excessive PC a real thing? absolutely. Does civ VI reach that threshold? Not even close

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Is excessive PC a real thing? absolutely. Does civ VI reach that threshold? Not even close

we've had two people in the other thread complaining that Civ franchise is doomed because civ is following "big bad" path of PC.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

we've had two people in the other thread complaining that Civ franchise is doomed because civ is following "big bad" path of PC.

To be fair, games can be ruined by excessive PC that @iammaxhailme mentioned. However, I see it as hyperbole that Civ 6 reaches that threshold.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

To be fair, games can be ruined by excessive PC that @iammaxhailme mentioned. However, I see it as hyperbole that Civ 6 reaches that threshold.

yeah but civ 6 isn't that game... and these two people are complaining on things that dosen't exist.

 

[Noble Zarkon]

Political correctness is a process everyone should be striving for and engaging in.

Absolutely not! Political correctness is a madness that has infected society and needs to be resisted.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

yeah but civ 6 isn't that game... and these two people are complaining on things that dosen't exist.

Never said anything to that likeness. I agree with you that Civ 6 is nowhere near extreme PC.

However, there are also folks that say Civ 6 is going alt-right because they included three European Civs and those that say Firaxis is being Sexist for not upholding a Gender ratio of Leaders they might not have even intentionally created. Both sides, the extreme parts that is, are going to find ways to complain about Firaxis not meeting a certain political quota they have. The best thing the devs can do is just ignore this loud minority mob that clamors and whines when one thing doesn't go the way they wish it does.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Never said anything to that likeness. I agree with you that Civ 6 is nowhere near extreme PC.

However, there are also folks that say Civ 6 is going alt-right because they included three European Civs and those that say Firaxis is being Sexist for not upholding a Gender ratio of Leaders they might not have even intentionally created. Both sides, the extreme parts that is, are going to find ways to complain about Firaxis not meeting a certain political quota. The best thing the devs can do is just ignore this loud minority mob that clamors when one thing doesn't go the way they wish it does.

Peoples are morons...

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Never said anything to that likeness. I agree with you that Civ 6 is nowhere near extreme PC.

However, there are also folks that say Civ 6 is going alt-right because they included three European Civs and those that say Firaxis is being Sexist for not upholding a Gender ratio of Leaders they might not have even intentionally created. Both sides, the extreme parts that is, are going to find ways to complain about Firaxis not meeting a certain political quota they have. The best thing the devs can do is just ignore this loud minority mob that clamors and whines when one thing doesn't go the way they wish it does.

You weren't one of the two people as I recall?

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

You weren't one of the two people as I recall?

With pride, I say nope.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

You weren't one of the two people as I recall?

of cause not

 

[PhoenicianGold]

With pride, I say nope.

Yeah so I don't think Kupe's comments were directed at you.

 

[PiR]

Yes, I think it's more PC than the previous editions. Does it bother me? not at all. Does it decrease gameplay? not at all
So... why not?
Honestly, just for the trailer of Gathering Storm I bought the whole pack, even though I was content with Civ 4. But for a game to stand out about climate was really welcome for me. Could it have been better implemented, in a more pedagogue way, or more realistic? who cares, it's a game, what did Sonic need the rings for

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Yeah so I don't think Kupe's comments were directed at you.

I never thought they were.

 

[Disgustipated]

The game is "starting" to become PC. And in fact, I'm a little worried about the future of the franchise. I've been thinking of making a thread on this. If our cultural and moral values change to the point where we see the depiction of colonization and exploitation as evils that have irrevocably harmed minority people, can we really endorse having these things in a video game? And yes, you can make the counter argument that video games feature murder on a regular basis, so are the above mentioned things that bad. We've already had some controversy over having the Cree in the game. I think some of that controversy has preventing introducing another Native American civ. There were some problems in seeing a people that expand as "winning", and the victory methods in general were questioned.

Keep in mind that there's push to rename high schools with Lincoln's name on them. The future is coming and all these leaders who once thought were great, are no longer being seen that way. And I'm not even going into the many infamous leaders the civ series has. Some of them not so far back (like Mao and Stalin). I doubt we'll ever see Jefferson or Washington in the game ever again, and you know why.

I would say as compared to society, Civ6 is not too PC. But society is becoming too PC. And we may reach a point where the depictions of colonialism is associated with slavery and other such evils, and big corporations may not want to put their name on a game depicting those things. We've already had slavery removed from the game after all (though to be fair, it's not something that matters to me since I hated those mechanics in civ4).

How much longer until a game like Civilization is seen as little better than Custer's revenge? Okay I'm being hyperbolic here, but you see my point. This is the danger of politically correctness in games. I found myself enjoying playing Wasteland 3 recently mainly because it was not politically correct. It led me back to the glory days of PC gaming.

I think we're okay for now, the Civ series flies under the radar enough that not enough people care about it's depictions of history and civilizations.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

The game is "starting" to become PC. And in fact, I'm a little worried about the future of the franchise. I've been thinking of making a thread on this. If our cultural and moral values change to the point where we see the depiction of colonization and exploitation as evils that have irrevocably harmed minority people, can we really endorse having these things in a video game? And yes, you can make the counter argument that video games feature murder on a regular basis, so are the above mentioned things that bad. We've already had some controversy over having the Cree in the game. I think some of that controversy has preventing introducing another Native American civ. There were some problems in seeing a people that expand as "winning", and the victory methods in general were questioned.

Keep in mind that there's push to rename high schools with Lincoln's name on them. The future is coming and all these leaders who once thought were great, are no longer being seen that way. And I'm not even going into the many infamous leaders the civ series has. Some of them not so far back (like Mao and Stalin).

I would say as compared to society, Civ6 is not too PC. But society is becoming too PC. And we may reach a point where the depictions of colonialism is associated with slavery and other such evils, and big corporations may not want to put their name on a game depicting those things. We've already had slavery removed from the game after all (though to be fair, it's not something that matters to me since I hated those mechanics in civ4).

How much longer until a game like Civilization is seen as little better than Custer's revenge? Okay I'm being hyperbolic here, but you see my point. This is the danger of politically correctness in games. I found myself enjoying playing Wasteland 3 recently mainly because it was not politically correct. It led me back to the glory days of PC gaming.

I think we're okay for now, the Civ series flies under the radar enough that not enough people care about it's depictions of history and civilizations.

...
you are being paranoid.
you would have a heart attack once you look at AOE3 DE

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Lol. When I first saw the thread I was thinking of course not. It's also on console and apple products.
Now I understand by reading it's asking if it's politically correct.

I don't think it is. It definitely might be a little more PC than past iterations but not to the extent of what other media/games do. Sometimes it's a good thing that we don't get stuck with leaders though like Mao, Stalin, and everybody's not so favorite leader for Germany.
If it was over the top PC though I think we wouldn't have gotten (Rough Rider) Teddy.