Is CiV actually re-playable?

[Smokeybear]

You should really ramp up the difficulty playin it on too easy makes it boring as there is not really any chalenge at all.

Seriously. I never played any Civ game in my life, until buying Civ 5- and I started out on Prince and have moved up to King, which still keeps me challenged at times with the improvements from the last patch or two. I can't imagine playing the game and being remotely challenged or entertained on *Chieftain*. Not being snobby, just a fact. That difficutly is CoT- Civ on Trainingwheels. If you are having issues with getting DoW'ed too much at that difficulty level, you need to read and research more of the good posts on this forum about how to better understand and utilize the Diplomacy functions.

Once you learn more about how to play the opposing civ's diplomacy to your benefit, then you should be more comfortable moving on to higher (and much more fun) difficulties.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Don't get me started on Diplomacy, I pretty much begining to see it as most people see.

But I am now going to try and get acrros, that ever since the most recent patch (not hotfix), the A.I got really aggressive.

 

[Smokeybear]

Don't get me started on Diplomacy, I pretty much begining to see it as most people see.

But I am now going to try and get acrros, that ever since the most recent patch (not hotfix), the A.I got really aggressive.

Oh, definitely! Can't say as I like having to focus much harder on building troops early on just to keep from being gang-rushed by every civ within 500 miles in the first 50 turns... but it is doable, and I learned to deal with it on King level... so I know you can too, if you put your leet skillz to it Or not. If you don't enjoy trying that, then move on to something else. Maybe come back in some weeks or months and play it again later. Never hurts to take breaks when something gets stale, either.

Carry on...

 

[Montov]

Tell us your usual starting techs and policies, and we will tell you different strategies to persue.

 

[wannabewarlord]

I would've been playing on Warlord had it not been the strange aggressiveness of A.I.s, anyway, stupid Steam got crazy and I have to re-install the game -.- gonna take a while. thanks guys btw.

If you are getting "constant" DOWs on Warlord, then you must be doing something seriously wrong. You probably have no army at all, so the AI will perceive you as weak and go for your throat. Or you expand heavily into enemy territory, so they get pissed. Or you befriend the enemy of an AI and he gets pissed, or, or, or. There's a million reasons.

Seriously, I play immortal and I get games with no or very few DOWs, so it is not the level that makes you get DOWed, it is your playstyle.

So here's your challenge. Tweak your gameplay so you don't get all these DOWs. Change your playstyle and your difficulty and you will see CiV5 is much less boring than you think it is.

I keep play about 2-3 standard length games a week on Immortal with different settings and after 400hours I still don't get bored. Just saying.

 

[sukritact]

Play on higher difficulty levels.

I couldn't agree more, I've been having so much more fun since I've bumped myself up from chieftain! (Almost got crushed by Darius!)

 

[King_Course]

I have played a deal, and I think the replayability has increased with the patches. I don't play every day or all the time, but when I have left Civ V alone for a while I get the urge to have a go at another game. This often becomes several games over the next few days till I feel I need a break again.

Stepping up the difficulty, playing new Civs, and also fooling around with the map generator to see how that turns out all prolong the game.

Despite many complaints from people, I think it for me at least has passed the test and I consider it a new classic.

 

[Camikaze]

Sure the game's replayable! I think the unique abilities/buildings/units, as well as the social policies, make for some nice replay possibilities. There seems to me to be enough in there to mix it up a little.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Hmmm,
Culture = Tradition (or Liberty, the one for smaller empires)
Science & Diplomacy = Tradition
Domination = Honor (funny, I play with no Barbarians, they drive me nuts)

Starting techs, usually Pottery>Calendar (because there iloads of stuff for Plantation, and Stonehenge is nice starting wonder for Cultural Victory, if I see a lot of Mining/Masonry, I go for that, and if I plan for world domination, I might get Statue of Zeus (for the bonus agaiinst cities)

 

[Montov]

Hmmm,
Culture = Tradition (or Liberty, the one for smaller empires)
Science & Diplomacy = Tradition
Domination = Honor (funny, I play with no Barbarians, they drive me nuts)

Starting techs, usually Pottery>Calendar (because there iloads of stuff for Plantation, and Stonehenge is nice starting wonder for Cultural Victory, if I see a lot of Mining/Masonry, I go for that, and if I plan for world domination, I might get Statue of Zeus (for the bonus agaiinst cities)

Some new paths:
- Play Bismarck with barbarians on, and go Honor.
- Play Babylon/Korea and go directly for The Great Library, and stay with only 1 city until you have National College.
- India -> Hanging Gardens push.

 

[The Pilgrim]

Of course it's replayable. Otherwise no one here would even buy it. But if we are completely honest, its replay value lower than Civ4's or Civ3's. At least until expansion packs will be released. And no guarantee it's gonna happen at all. There are few optimum key moves, not many, and strategy variations are limited. But someone who is just getting familiar with the franchise still has years of exploration and enjoyment in front of him.

Seriously, I play immortal and I get games with no or very few DOWs, so it is not the level that makes you get DOWed, it is your playstyle.

Seriously? Your sets, please. And save file even better.

 

[fmlizard2]

This game is about handling and adapting to situations as they are presented to you. Maps, your civ, neighboring civs, victory conditions, and possibly most of all, diplomatic climates (DoWs). Sure, they are capricious and maddening at times, but that is where the replay value lies - the nearly infinite variations on these aspects.

Playing Chieftain only because you don't want these surprises to arise...well, that is why you are losing replay interest in the game. Replay value only goes up the more of these conditions you allow to happen, and the higher difficulties just throw more different stuff at you.

 

[qemist]

Seriously? Your sets, please. And save file even better.

I'm not sure about imm but it can happen on emp if you start on your own continent and don't expand beyond it.

 

[bitula]

Is Civ 5 a easily replayable game or does it become repetive after several games?

It becomes repetive within a single game. So I mean its not just non-replayable, its simply non-playable.

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[ShahJahanII]

It becomes repetive within a single game. So I mean its not just non-replayable, its simply non-playable.

Criticizing a few aspects of Civ V is fine by me.
"I dislike 1UPT"
"I wan't religion back"
Fine, you are entitled to your opinion.

But the entire game?
Why even post?

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Let's not get off topic now shall we? I love 1 upt, I always hated the A.I making doom stacks xD, but i miss my Apostolic Palace thouhg .

Anyway, I guess there isn't much point in this topic anyway, don't think there is much to add to it.

 

[qemist]

And after a while, if you play games like once a day, it becomes extremly repetive and boring, which is something I shouldn't really "feel" with Civ game, I know, I could go up to Warlord but the constant DoW are getting so irritating (I like to have the upper hand you know)

I never played on anything lower than Prince. I imagine it would get boring pretty quick. Find the level you are comfortable with and play the one above that. Vary the starting conditions. Try no CS, no barbs, raging barbs, whatever. If you want a peaceful game, try SimCity.

 

[wannabewarlord]

Seriously? Your sets, please. And save file even better.

Current game: China, Immortal, Pangea, Standard (speed & size), about half of the spaceship parts built with no one having Apollo yet. Got 3 cities sandwiched between Denmark and Ottomans and had so far one DOW at the start from a overeager Bismarck and one from Japan on the other side of the map (probably a bribe) which he soon after traded for peace and Friendly again before I even saw one of his units. All the nations are friendly toward me and Denmark prefers to bash Bismarck instead of wiping me out (which he could, according to the advisor). I do have a defensive force that could hold Denmark off, should he decide to change his mind in the last turns.

Cheers.

 

[Rinnero]

No, CiV is not replayable. You can only pretend it is. Civs do not differ much, and actually there is usually only one best way to win. (going wide and spamming GSs)

Of course you can have "replayability" if you play prince. Spam wonders, build mounts, adopt commerce. But at deity and especially in MP you wont survive if you do this.

Apart from a lot of minor and moderate balance issues, I think that the key problem in lack of replayability is that civs are too generic. I dont propose anything like starcraft, but several major UAs with few minor UAs (several UB/UU/UIs would be good as well) per each civ could lead to much greater replayability.

 

[Iberian]

No, CiV is not replayable. You can only pretend it is. Civs do not differ much, and actually there is usually only one best way to win. (going wide and spamming GSs)

Of course you can have "replayability" if you play prince. Spam wonders, build mounts, adopt commerce. But at deity and especially in MP you wont survive if you do this.

Apart from a lot of minor and moderate balance issues, I think that the key problem in lack of replayability is that civs are too generic. I dont propose anything like starcraft, but several major UAs with few minor UAs (several UB/UU/UIs would be good as well) per each civ could lead to much greater replayability.

That is a good point. I replay the game but mostly just to try something different that really isn't optimal. Going wide with GS and an army is going to win everytime.