Is the AI massively overvaluing Open Borders...

[Drawmeus]

...or am I massively undervaluing them? 50 gold per open borders per AI is adding up really quickly.

It feels a bit exploitative. I've been ok with it on the grounds that I will gift to the AI and the AI never gifts to me (can two diplo problems make a right?), but it does feel like an issue.

 

[gingerbill]

i dont think its an issue because trading open borders keeps them happy , so by selling them you lose out on keeping them a bit happier . Maybe im wrong on that but thats what i assumed. Plus i would happily pay 50 gold for open borders often without feeling ripped off.

 

[Sonereal]

The AI likes open borders because they're scouting your territory to see what you have and what you can throw against them.

 

[Keejus]

50 gold makes sense to me. I'd happy pay 50 gold if I wanted to scout the lands beyond France or whoever

 

[Txurce]

I have gotten as much as 53g. I think it works better than pre-patch, though, because OB offers aren't guaranteed. At least at the higher levels, the AI drives a much harder bargain for OB's if you don't have optimal relations with them.

 

[insaneweasel]

I have gotten as much as 53g. I think it works better than pre-patch, though, because OB offers aren't guaranteed. At least at the higher levels, the AI drives a much harder bargain for OB's if you don't have optimal relations with them.

So true. I asked Lizzy (who was guarded) for OB...and the cost was 5000+ gold (all I had), 100 gpt, and 4 luxury resources!

 

[Cobrac]

I generally try and avoid open Borders with AI - often seem to DoW me when they see my typically weak early game military....aka my warrior

 

[The Judgemental]

I agree with insaneweasel we would never that good a deal so use it up i say

 

[TPQ]

With no spies, or other intelligence gathering mechanisms in Civ5 (as yet), buying open borders is the only way the AIs can get the low-down on your stuff.

50g isn't much to the AIs anyway as they're usually rich. It's essentially free money unless you play on Immortal/Deity when you probably have to be a bit more cautious as to who you let into your lands.