Is this a miracle?

[carlosMM]

Sorry, but it is a religious belief. How any anything related to god or gods and/or belief or denial of same be anything but a religious belief?

Erhm, it is not a religious belief. It is an opinion based on facts (the total absence of any empirical evidence for the existence of any god), which is exactly the kind of rational and logical approach that religious beliefs refuse ('credo quia absurdum' comes to mind).

Just because it DEALS WITH religion doesn MAKE IT religion. Otherwise, a cook is a vegetable, too

 

[CaptainF]

Atheism is the religion for worshipping a scientist's ego.

 

[batteryacid]

@ MobBoss:
1)Even God can´t predict the Future, since quantum physics tells us that there are TRUELY RANDOM EVENTS (e.g. events that cannot be predicted by knowing the present state infinitely accurate- this statement includes all enitites, even a godly one)

2) Why should god not be able to tell that he is an atheist? I mean he is ALL MIGHTY and HIS INTENSIONS AND WAYS ARE MYSTERIOUS to us mortals...

 

[Azash]

It's not a miracle, really. It's a "D'OH!" moment for many biologists, though.

 

[nonconformist]

It's not a miracle, really. It's a "D'OH!" moment for many biologists, though.

Not really, this has been observed for quite a while, such as the case of Christopher Reeve.

 

[Azash]

If that were the case religion would have never occurred.

It occurred because fools fear their death.

 

[Azash]

Not really, this has been observed for quite a while, such as the case of Christopher Reeve.

Really? That's slipped me by. Well, then I don't see the point of this thread. Might as well make a topic on "Woman Cured of Cancer: World Awed"

 

[nonconformist]

Really? That's slipped me by. Well, then I don't see the point of this thread. Might as well make a topic on "Woman Cured of Cancer: World Awed"

After years of therepy, Christopher Reeve (whose spinal chord was completely severed below the neck) managed to not only regain feeling over the majority of his body, but he also regained some ability to move his fingers and toes.

 

[El_Machinae]

It occurred because fools fear their death.

Non-fools get support for curing aging [/plug]

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

Once more, I dont claim to personally know that the fire that protected the hebrews was either natural or unnatural. Thus, in turn, I have no idea if God ordered 20k people to die in a mudslide in Chile. Neither do I propose to know the "Why's and wherefor" of how God works and acts. All I can say is that it is in his character to save his people like he did, but it is not in his character to wipe out 20k people without a reason to do so.

Assuming belief in God, isn't it more logical to infer God's character from how we can observe the universe to be, than to rationalize His evident actions by referring to a (quite possibly fictional) account of His character?

 

[MobBoss]

Not really, this has been observed for quite a while, such as the case of Christopher Reeve.

Actually, not what the story said. This is the first instance of this happening in the brain. So, no, this hasnt been "observed for quite awhile".

 

[Marshy]

Well, lets take the discussion a step further then. If this is not a miracle, ok. However, are there such things as miracles? Do miracles happen?

I'll say no.

From the OED: Miracle-A marvellous event not ascribable to human power or the operation of any natural force and therefore attributed to supernatural, esp. divine, agency.

I don't believe in the divine or supernatural so by the above definition I can't really believe in miracles. However it would be possible for an atheist who believed in the supernatural to believe in miracles. But I've never met one.

I'd guess that no atheist believes in miracles and many (but not all) religious people believe in miracles.

 

[Azash]

Non-fools get support for curing aging [/plug]

This unnatural little dream of yours again?

 

[El_Machinae]

Life selects for life, my friend.

Actually, not what the story said. This is the first instance of this happening in the brain. So, no, this hasnt been "observed for quite awhile".

We see in split-brain patients (where the brain is split to treat epilepsy) that there's activity in a part of the brain, even though it's not expressed (for example, while the patient is trying to describe a desk, the 'desk picturing' part of the brain will be active, but not able to communicate to the speech part of the brain).

This man was likely having a similar event. Where his past memories were remaining active, but not getting to his consciousness centres. What's really interesting is that his memories must have been sending signals that encouraged growth of neurons towards them.

This case has tremendous implications for brain repair (I'm thinking of neural stem cells), because it shows how much can be repaired with a little bit of help. You don't always need to fix parts of the brain, just little bits. Wow.

 

[Kyriakos]

Hm, however it is highly probable that the brain can arrive at a seemingly same level of activity in relation to set obectives, in what in reality would have been clearly different mental pathways. For example one person can add 1+1 in one way, and another one in an entirely different way. This has to do with the synthetical nature of all mental actions.

My view is that the synthetical nature is due to the fact that the brain, in a deeper level, is occupied with very different calculations than any of those which normally occupy us in our consciousness. For example we are occupied with notions of the external world, of other people, of a science (math, physics, chemistry etc) of an art etc. But all those are just synthesised notions, which are formed as platforms, and below them there is a dark ocean of other mental calculations.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

Assuming belief in God, isn't it more logical to infer God's character from how we can observe the universe to be, than to rationalize His evident actions by referring to a (quite possibly fictional) account of His character?

Still not answered...

 

[Tulkas12]

Still not answered...

i'll answer

I do believe you are correct, my whole line of thinking is actualy based on premises of a similar nature, well with some extrapolations and a few assertions that is.