It SCREAMS Axerush

[CivCorpse]

If ever a start screamed axerush this is it. The borders are Pacal and Raggy. I am seriously praying for copper. I may have to raze the capitals to make room for a city between them and my own.

 

[nbcman]

In your BFC there is only one square that could have another resource so you may have to build a settler to claim a close copper before bonking Pacal and Ragnar's heads.

 

[kcmarkwell]

your chances of getting copper are about 0. you already have two production resources, stone and gold...

 

[Julian Delphiki]

What level this is on -- meaning would archer rush be possible? Holkans might make that difficult anyway, i reckon.

 

[Giwi]

Oh, but mr.worldbuilder dont judge you by other resources

 

[madscientist]

I see it differently. You are protective, target archery to defend yourself. Build alot of them, Pacal need no resoruces fo the UU and ragnar is agressive. Expand with a city to Ragnars norths and Pacals west (assuming I have colors correct). You should have good land to your NW. Let them squeeze each other, then bring your army aganist the stronger of the 2. Your not boxed in on a penninsula. Also are you Mao or Qin, if Mao go for more workers and graneries for larger populations. If qin shoot for 1 or 2 early wonders to add to Bejings culture pressure on the other two.

An axe-rush in the making? No, an excellent diplomatic situation.

 

[MGee]

I may have to raze the capitals to make room for a city between them and my own.

OFF:
Erm... I might be wrong, but if you raze the capitals then you don't have to make room betwen your capital and them if you have already razed them. Just joking... I got what you've meant.

ON:
I'd rather chose a more peaceful method. Grab as many land as possible, but let those guys to share some serious borders. If I were you I'd also try to grab Masonry ASAP and build Pyramids/GW(/Stonehenge if you're capable of grabbing that). You can grow to a decent empire till the early ADs for example.
While expanding I'd research IW and head for machinery. With iron (IMHO there'll be some of it to the north) you'll be able to train Cho-ko-nu (or something like that... ). Around that time Holkan Spearmen will be obsolete and Berserker won't be avaliable yet if you're quick enough.
Try to keep good relations with Ragnar and bribe him for a war versus Pacal, then SMACK!

EDIT: Well, it isn't a more peaceful method, but you'll grab/raze more cities!

 

[absimiliard]

Ragnar 7 squares from your capitol?

Of course you rush. With whatever resource you can find.

-abs

 

[oyzar]

What difficulty is this? on prince and below i would do an warrior rush. Above i would do an archer rush(you are protective).

 

[mice]

I agree with madscientist. Ragnar will waste units on your protective archers, meanwhile you can work the gold, found two cities and even build the pyramids if you're careful.

Then it's Police state, and iron hopefully. If no strategic resources, that is tough.

 

[CivCorpse]

there was copper in the upper left of my BFC....so much for 0 chance. And lock modified assets is on, so no world builder. I rushed pacal because he founded a religion for me. I then whacked raggy....so I ended up isolated....nice continent too.....I am guilding the galleons as we speak....and am going to take chemistry with liberalism for the privateers

 

[madscientist]

there was copper in the upper left of my BFC....so much for 0 chance. And lock modified assets is on, so no world builder. I rushed pacal because he founded a religion for me. I then whacked raggy....so I ended up isolated....nice continent too.....I am guilding the galleons as we speak....and am going to take chemistry with liberalism for the privateers

Excellent, good fortune to have that copper. Regarding my advice, if I had popped the copper too I would have rushed. I really did not expect it, Kudo's!

 

[Echo of Celts]

I have only ever axe rushed once... on an earth map... and the axes only lasted long enough to take out 2 Ai's before being obsolete.

I don't know why, but I have never been a big early war man.

 

[nbcman]

@ CivCorpse Very good luck on getting the copper on the only square possible Have fun with the privateers

 

[CivCorpse]

Excellent, good fortune to have that copper. Regarding my advice, if I had popped the copper too I would have rushed. I really did not expect it, Kudo's!

I was hoping...otherwise I needed it for chopping stuff anyway

 

[DigitalBoy]

Don't raze the capitals. Keep them and found one city 1N or 2N of the wheat and another 2W1S or 3W1S of the sheep. You still get to work most of the good tiles, and you won't have to waste time or energy building extra settlers.

 

[xanadux]

If there was no copper, ivory was at hand for a cataphant rush.

 

[Belisar]

Definitely rush.
Below monarch this is a no-brainer warrior rush.
On higher levels the type of the rush depends on the ressource you find.
(I was never a big fan of the archer rush)
If all else fails and you can expand a bit then release the

EDIT: x-post with xanadux

 

[CivCorpse]

Don't raze the capitals. Keep them and found one city 1N or 2N of the wheat and another 2W1S or 3W1S of the sheep. You still get to work most of the good tiles, and you won't have to waste time or energy building extra settlers.

I rushed them but only kept Pacal's capital because it was a holy city. With the AI removed from the continent, I could settle them where I wanted at the time of my choosing. This way no economy crashing over-expansion. I really wish Pac-man hadn't founded a religion. I would have moved him a tad to the east and shoved another city in there

 

[KMadCandy]

O M G.

CivCorpse, you started with stone in your BFC and the situation screams axerush to you? what is this world coming to? ps that start is no good, where can you build privateers?