Japan puts whale burgers on the menu

[ComradeDavo]

OK, so let me rephrase it then:
What is your philosophical justification to think that human beings and whales are equal?
And why is a pig and a human being not equal?
What is the criteria for another species to be considered of equal worth of human beings?

I think you misunderstand, I do think of pigs and humans as equal as well. I see animals as living beings who should be left to live as free creatures, it is not nesscary for humans to eat meat, we can do fine with vegetables etc.

I'm not any more against killing Whaling than I am against killing pigs, in that i am totally against them both. It's just that whilst preventing Whaling is achievable in this current world situation, stopping the slaughter of pigs ain't, and it's more vital to try and stop Whaling at current because I don't want their numbers to be reduced as with pollution etc they might not be able to recover any time soon.

 

[Winner]

Please stop coming with all those false claims that all whale species are endangered. Minke Whales are not endangered. Let me quote a speech in the Norwegian parliament in 2001 for a simple explanation of the Minke Whale’s situation:
These numbers are for the North Atlantic Ocean. In the South Pacific Ocean where Japan catches most of their Minke Whales the stock is a lot bigger, and consequently there is even less cause for concern down there.

The very fact that they are breeding like there were no crazy humans with harpoons around doesn't give you the right to hunt them. The whale population was decimated just because some people thought they are breeding just enough and therefore are a resource to be "mined". We aren't in Civ 3, wake up.

What I said about killing sentient animals was meant seriously. But if you so much want the whale meat, OK. Make some big undersea fence and breed whales there. Feed them, care for them and then eat them, just like they were common livestock.

I am sick of this exploitation of oceans. Humans should realize that ocean isn't theirs for the taking. As a presumably intelligent species we should be much more responsible.

 

[Winner]

(BTW humans are breeding like the rabbits, so I propose to impose a quotas for hunting them for food. The same logic )

 

[puglover]

I thought whale tiles never get exhausted.

I'd eat a whale burger once if they were around here.

Btw, I see no reason why they shouldn't be killed and eaten. They're just whales. *dodges stones from environmentalists*

 

[ComradeDavo]

I'd eat a whale burger once if they were around here.

Btw, I see no reason why they shouldn't be killed and eaten. They're just whales. *dodges stones from environmentalists*

Using that logic - human children are just humans. So there would be nothing wrong with me going and eating one.

I se eno difference between killing a whale for food and killing a human child for food, to me they are both sickening acts.

 

[Nobody]

Minke Whales are not endangered. Let me quote a speech in the Norwegian parliament in 2001 for a simple explanation of the Minke Whale’s situation:

When it comes to Whale number trusting the Norwegian Parliament is like trusting the Fox to tell you how many chickens there are in the coop. Hey no one is hunting Pandas in china does that mean Japan can do that too?

And someone said somthing about tuna, Did you know the only time New Zealands fighter jets ever fired in anger was when we sunk a japense fishing ship that would go home. (i think they might of fired first)

 

[10Seven]

When it comes to Whale number trusting the Norwegian Parliament is like trusting the Fox to tell you how many chickens there are in the coop. Hey no one is hunting Pandas in china does that mean Japan can do that too?

And someone said somthing about tuna, Did you know the only time New Zealands fighter jets ever fired in anger was when we sunk a japense fishing ship that would go home. (i think they might of fired first)

That is so cool

 

[Ramius75]

When it comes to Whale number trusting the Norwegian Parliament is like trusting the Fox to tell you how many chickens there are in the coop. Hey no one is hunting Pandas in china does that mean Japan can do that too?

And someone said somthing about tuna, Did you know the only time New Zealands fighter jets ever fired in anger was when we sunk a japense fishing ship that would go home. (i think they might of fired first)

The problem is now there isnt any new zealand airforce anymore... at least in the fighter jet department.

Else please sink those shark finning ships too.

http://www.eurosolve.com/charity/spl/fin_trade.html

 

[classical_hero]

The problem is now there isnt any new zealand airforce anymore... at least in the fighter jet department.

Else please sink those shark finning ships too.

http://www.eurosolve.com/charity/spl/fin_trade.html

Australia can solve that Problem. Just give me the word and I'll call the Prime Minister.

I would have no problem with the Shark fishing, if they are going to use the whole shark, and not just the fins. The Sharks are usless without their fins, so why don't they have the whole lot?

 

[Nobody]

But sharks eat people (i know im wrong, not all sharks dont eat people, so there)

 

[Ramius75]

Australia can solve that Problem. Just give me the word and I'll call the Prime Minister.

I would have no problem with the Shark fishing, if they are going to use the whole shark, and not just the fins. The Sharks are usless without their fins, so why don't they have the whole lot?

Same here, if they decided to harvest the whole shark, im more or less ok with it, provided that they also take less and they can find some use for the meat.

Some Sharks species are also consider endangered so its quite a delicate process.

But just harvesting the sharks for its fins and the inhumane process is a no no for me, so far i already stopped eating shark fins for more than 7 years already. But only to manage persuading a few friends to join me...

The sea is been over harvested atm, from most reef fishes to tuna, cod and sharks. someday it will be too late unless there are more regulation and ppl actually follow them.

The new zealand airforce attacking the fishing boat is a good idea actaully.

In one way seafood is good for health, but the sea cant substain so many humans... its best to go veggies...

Tofu burger anyone ??

 

[classical_hero]

It is basically about sustainablity. Look at the Abalone industry in California. Oh wait, you can't because they have overhrvested that species. Now have a look at the Abolone Industry in Western Australia. We have an industry because we saw what would happen if we did not manage the Industry better. The Japanese are foollish for trying to over whale the whale population. We are actually doing them a favour by keeping whales around.

 

[Ramius75]

But sharks eat people (i know im wrong, not all sharks dont eat people, so there)

More ppl get killed by cars than sharks. If im not wrong, the number of sharks attack a year all around the world is less than 100. I think its more easier to get strike by lightning than being killed by sharks.

 

[classical_hero]

Sharks are not that much of a problem. They do not find us tasty at all. It is often a case of mistaken identity. We pose more of a problem to ourselves than sharks will ever do for us, and yet for some reason, many people are scared of sharks.

 

[Ramius75]

It is basically about sustainablity. Look at the Abalone industry in California. Oh wait, you can't because they have overhrvested that species. Now have a look at the Abolone Industry in Western Australia. We have an industry because we saw what would happen if we did not manage the Industry better. The Japanese are foollish for trying to over whale the whale population. We are actually doing them a favour by keeping whales around.

yeah, the same with the cod industries in the European countries where the british who have over harvested their supply while the Icelander protect their stocks well.

 

[Ramius75]

Sharks are not that much of a problem. They do not find us tasty at all. It is often a case of mistaken identity. We pose more of a problem to ourselves than sharks will ever do for us, and yet for some reason, many people are scared of sharks.

have to blame spielberg for that... im actually also terrify to enter uncleared water actually. but still i advocate sharks protection.

 

[Pikachu]

When it comes to Whale number trusting the Norwegian Parliament is like trusting the Fox to tell you how many chickens there are in the coop. Hey no one is hunting Pandas in china does that mean Japan can do that too?

Of course you cannot trust the Norwegian parliament, but the numbers quoted are taken from the scientific committee of the International Whaling Commission. If you cannot trust the Whale numbers from IWC, who can you trust? Green Peace?

Panda is an endangered species, so everybody should refrain from hunting pandas. Likewise Blue Whale and Right Whale are endangered species and should not be hunted. Minke Whales however are numerous and growing in numbers, so they can sustain some hunting. That’s an important difference!

The Japanese are foollish for trying to over whale the whale population. We are actually doing them a favour by keeping whales around.

But they are not over whaling anymore. Minke Whales are not endangered according to the International Whaling Commission. Please give a source if you have some information that tells otherwise.