Kingdom Come: Deception (Game Thread)

[topsecret]

G1K's vote itself makes me want to lynch him honestly, but I can't help but feel Town Tak does better.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

If Tak flips red my problem is that among my strongest reads as possible partners there hasn't been anyone yet that I wasn't previously thinking of as the closest to town reads that I could find in this bucket of scum and villainy.

The Rattay Tourism and Immigration Promotional Office is a serious dead end job, cuz this place sucks butt.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

G1K's vote itself makes me want to lynch him honestly, but I can't help but feel Town Tak does better.

Problem there is that he really had to do it whether he is wolf or just confused and scummy looking villager.

 

[topsecret]

To be fair, the fact we are doubting almost everyone means:
1. Arakhor didn't make the game too easy
2. We did a real bad job of establishing town core.

Good job Arakhor.
Bad job us.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

To be fair, the fact we are doubting almost everyone means:
1. Arakhor didn't make the game too easy
2. We did a real bad job of establishing town core.

Good job Arakhor.
Bad job us.

I seem to remember posting "epic fail by the town." It was a report at the time, but may have been prophetic.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

On the brighter side, no matter who the wolves NK they will be eliminating a prime suspect and making LYLO that much easier.

 

[topsecret]

On the brighter side, no matter who the wolves NK they will be eliminating a prime suspect and making LYLO that much easier.

I am hoping this isn't gonna be LYLO.

Why isn't Tak busting down doors?

We need to go back and look at MJ's final reads too.

 

[pzelda]

G1K's vote itself makes me want to lynch him honestly, but I can't help but feel Town Tak does better.

Town Tak probably dies in first two days.

 

[pzelda]

To be fair, the fact we are doubting almost everyone means:
1. Arakhor didn't make the game too easy
2. We did a real bad job of establishing town core.

Good job Arakhor.
Bad job us.

I think we did a good job. Catching two, maybe three wolves in a row.

 

[Golden1Knight]

Town Tak probably dies in first two days.

He almost did

 

[topsecret]

This post is really important. I would like to hear others thoughts on it.
Tim, what do you think?

So if LordArgon flips survivor, we have 10 people left: Tim, topsecret, Tak, Pzelda, Johanna, Csargo, me, Gamez, Samson, and G1K
Of those, I'd consider Csargo and Samson to be almost guaranteed town just because of roleclaims, and I am of course wouldn't suspect myself, so that leaves 7 suspects and probably 3 mafia out of them, considering if LA is confirmed a survivor it's most likely 11/3/1 split. Among those, I'd probably rank suspicion as follows:

Gamezrule: Is confirmed the letterwriter, which feels like a townie role. Also I agree with the assessment that he looked to clear up confusion going around town: he had the chance to let town argue in circles about the mysterious letter, and decided to clean it up. Of course the obvious counter to that is that I'm currently ranking him as third-most townie and if he's mafia he's just managed to accrue a whole bunch of townie points and eliminate any suspicion of him.
Pzelda: Probably the most consistently helpful person left, actively making reads, giving analysis and trying to dig up information
Timsup2nothin: Has been probably the most active person in town and constantly making claims and giving information, willing to dig for information. Rated under Pzelda for having already lead a mislynch of Raskol, but I'm inclined to see that as a town error rather than a mafia plot.
Golden1Knight: Has talked quite little but given good commentary when he has. I'd prefer you talked more but you've been giving and helping out enough that I don't really feel the need to press it.
topsecret: Between the poisoner and the roleblocker there's already 2 mafia power roles accounted for so if ts is mafia he'd have to be the third one. The thing is that the only other town roles we know so far are doctor, letterwriter, questionably 2-shot tracker/watcher. From a game balance perspective, the poisoner obviously counters the doctor which means the roleblocker is for the letterwriter and possibly tracker. The issue is that a roleblocker is pretty bad against the 2-shot tracker/watcher because the t/w would typically only be found by mafia once they either go public after finding a mafia kill early or after the t/w is out of shots. And I don't think that a roleblocker exists just to counter the letterwriter. This makes me think that there's probably another townrole hiding about that the roleblocker can help handle. Considering how many role claims we have already between 2 masons, a doctor, a t/w, a letterwriter, and a tiebreaker, this makes me think that either (in order from most to least likely) a. Tak is lying about being t/w, b. tiebreaker is a mafia role, c. Tak is lying and tiebreaker is also mafia role, or d. they're both telling the truth and the third mafia role is something really nasty like an extra night kill.
Takhisis: see topsecret for most of it. The reason I find ts less suspicious than Tak is a combination of how ts has generally been more active and helpful giving analysis and making claims, how Tak spent a lot of time with weird distracting roleplaying, and that I consider "I'm t/w, but I found absolutely nothing, and also I'm out of shots so I can't do anything else to confirm myself" to be a more suspicious claim than a known tiebreaker.
JohannaK: has said and done basically nothing all game without the same excuse Tak had of wanting to use all shots first, or how GamezRule could confirm his own role. I want to Jo to at the very start making more claims and reads before I stop considering them a prime lynch target. Also getting suspicious of the quick vote against me trying to save the survivor

tl;dr: the answer to your question would probably be either lynching Jo or thunderdoming you and Tak while voting Tak initially

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Town Tak probably dies in first two days.

Yeah, but "MU tradition" aside, do you really see wolf Tak going quietly here?

I can tell you that wolf Tim would be spewing craziness in every direction to make the eventual LYLO even harder if that was wolf Tim at the top of the pile.

 

[topsecret]

Hey look it's Zelda. Zelda, got any thoughts? This is MJ's read list close to his doom.

 

[topsecret]

I think we did a good job. Catching two, maybe three wolves in a row.

I hope so.

 

[topsecret]

Yeah, but "MU tradition" aside, do you really see wolf Tak going quietly here?

I can tell you that wolf Tim would be spewing craziness in every direction to make the eventual LYLO even harder if that was wolf Tim at the top of the pile.

To be honest Tim, I don't see Tak going quietly regardless of alignment.

 

[Golden1Knight]

This post is really important. I would like to hear others thoughts on it.
Tim, what do you think?

This post makes me less suspicious of Jo and relieved that there is no extra night kill.

 

[topsecret]

@Synsensa if you're gonna read the whole thread, you have to play next game.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

To be honest Tim, I don't see Tak going quietly regardless of alignment.

Yeah, that's my point.

The MJ reads list reads two different ways depending on whether you buy him as a calculated WIFOM planting sacrifice or an actual trying to hide at the time wolf.

 

[pzelda]

Hey look it's Zelda. Zelda, got any thoughts? This is MJ's read list close to his doom.

Taking a look at it now. It's interesting that before making reads he tmi-ed LA survivor and Samson with Csargo as towns.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I think Synsensa is enjoying trying to solve the puzzle without the added stress of trying not to die. It may be worth promoting that to increase interest and develop a "not quite playing but might jump in later" pool. I would imagine that a five member spectator chat PM chain could get pretty lively.