LAW_FREAK
Prince
Not chainmall leather, more ancient looking
LEADERHEAD PREVIEW: Napoleon
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LAW_FREAK said:
The gallic were wearing chainmail like the roman during the period of the Gaul War ( France war ) againt Cesar ... But if you don't want to put chainmail let leather but perhaps add a different helmet see the pictures below :
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
In the Ancient Age I think you should put something on his shoulders. Shoulder Pads or furs maybe? Just looks kinda.. bare.
Dom Pedro II
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How bout I put a friggin' eagle on his helmet? Would that float your boat? I'll see what I can do about shoulder gear.
Goldflash
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Dom Pedro II said:Rufus was giving me a lot of good ideas on AIM about what to do with this guy... A lot of it I really wasn't sure about. Any thoughts on the modern era? He's suggested dressing him like Charles de Gaulle.
Goldflash: The title is One Nation, Divisible. It is told from the point of view of about 10 main characters and starts in mid-1861 and runs along a historical timeline until June 30, 1862 when Lee manages to close his pincers around McClellan's army at Glendale, Virginia and removes 45,000 men from the war. Things begin to spin wildly out of control as Lee's army sweeps north into Maryland and then Pennsylvania while a second army under Braxton Bragg moves quickly towards Louisville, and a power struggle begins between McClellan and his cronies and the Lincoln administration ultimately culminating in a seizure of power by the Army and Lincoln's fleeing of Washington. And so there are then two federal governments, neither one completely legitimate since Lincoln now has no Congress, and the Congress in Washington has already appointed McClellan the new President. And then things go from bad to worse... on October 7, the USS Sonora sinks the HMS Desperate which was believed to be escorting a Confederate blockade runner. Throw in French and Spanish ambitions in the New World and a growing rift between Russia and Britain, and you've got a recipe for disaster!
DOM! DOM! WE GOTTA MAKE THIS INTO A SCENARIO!
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Goldflash said:
Actually, I suggested it a while back but nobody seemed particularly interested.
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
Well, count me in.
Oh boy, that makes four mods and a scenario...
GATTM
GEAM
WH40K
Star Trek
And now this.
And then there is College coming up.
Meh. I'm going to go play RoN.
Oh boy, that makes four mods and a scenario...
GATTM
GEAM
WH40K
Star Trek
And now this.
And then there is College coming up.
Meh. I'm going to go play RoN.
Dom Pedro II
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Goldflash said:
And so to take a break from Civ, we go and play another computer game! EDIT: I got T&P and got really frustrated because I was finding it impossible to win.... so I started playing Eve Online a few months ago. It was really addicting for a while and then I kind of got sucked back into unit-making
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Dom Pedro II said:
EDIT: I got T&P and got really frustrated because I was finding it impossible to win.... so I started playing Eve Online a few months ago. It was really addicting for a while and then I kind of got sucked back into unit-making
When I'm
of Conquests I play Cossacks !! 
Bobby Lee
Confederate General
Dom Pedro II said:
you cant be serious...maybe i wasnt around or paying attention...this looks awsome...very similar to a scenario i had been trying to push off and on (based on Harry Turtledoves alternate history series on if Lee's Antietam campaign hadnt been discovered in detail)...this scenario is just as good (if only slightly less believeable)...what book was this in? i wanna read it...
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It's my book actually... I've been working on it for the last few years.
It originally started as a series of short stories leading from 1862 until the present in a world where there is no World War I and II. No Adolf Hitler (at least not as a historical figure). Where there is no Soviet Russia or Communist China, and Japan rules an empire from the Philippines to Alaska to Baja California. Where much of the American West is ruled by the brutal Deseret theocracy and the U.S. government is plagued by instability and terror attacks by Native American militants.
But I've saved that for the sequel.
My story originally started off much like Turtledove's version on June 30. McClellan loses half his army and retreats from the Peninsula. Lee marches North and devestates Pope on August 17 at the Battle of Orange Court House capturing another 20,000 men in the process. Then marches to Harpers Ferry where the sympathetic commander there surrenders his own 11,000. These losses do not go unnoticed and Britain and France agree to recognize the Confederacy realizing that the USA will undoubtedly surrender soon. And then Lincoln's government capitulates.
But the more I began to do research, the more I discovered that this war was one of a much, much larger picture. At home, there was massive dissent in southern California and indeed in 1859, there was legislation to separate California into two states. In Utah in 1857, the Mormons had led a quasi-rebellion against the U.S. government, and from what I've read of his personal documents, the only reason Brigham Young did not set up his own country was because the Union won the war. All of the claims of Utahn loyalty during the war was a sham. Even New York City at this point has a movement of people looking to create the Republic of Tri-Insula comprising Manhattan, Staten Island, and Long Island. It failed when the Confederacy released its tariff policy, which meant that the Southern states would have to be forced back into the Union for New York's heavily mercantile economy to compete... BUT if Southern victory seemed inevitable, New York too, would have to secede just to be able to survive.
Then there was also the fact that McClellan and a number of his underlings had talked rather boldly about marching on Washington to sweep out what they considered to be a corrupt and dangerous government. And indeed, remember that up until this point, there had never been a Republican President before, and since his election, the Union had split for the first time ever, habeas corpus had been suspended, there were daily reportings of violations of civil liberties, and there was increasingly more radical legislation coming from Congress. They and also many people in the society would have seen the restoration of a Democrat to power as something of a liberation from tyranny. And it seems that not a few of McClellan's soldiers agreed.
But there would have to be a catalyst for this, and essentially that catalyst is the debacle at Glendale and McClellan's subsequent arrest. It was a matter of scapegoating. In real life, McClellan pinned the responsibility for the Peninsula Campaign's failure on a lack of support from Lincoln, and indeed, many of the papers believed him. Stanton got more heat than anyone else in the government for the failure. Lincoln would have to arrest McClellan just to be able to keep Stanton. But arresting McClellan would set his lieutenants into motion, and as the situation steadily worsened and the Republicans' choice general, Pope, was humiliated, their movement would grow increasingly stronger.
So this was not my original design but rather grew out of further research... it seemed implausible to me at first, but the more I read and was amazed at how dangerously arrogant these men became, the more I realized how this could have been a very real threat.
(I've threadjacked my own thread!)
I've been working on it for the last few years.It originally started as a series of short stories leading from 1862 until the present in a world where there is no World War I and II. No Adolf Hitler (at least not as a historical figure). Where there is no Soviet Russia or Communist China, and Japan rules an empire from the Philippines to Alaska to Baja California. Where much of the American West is ruled by the brutal Deseret theocracy and the U.S. government is plagued by instability and terror attacks by Native American militants.
But I've saved that for the sequel.
My story originally started off much like Turtledove's version on June 30. McClellan loses half his army and retreats from the Peninsula. Lee marches North and devestates Pope on August 17 at the Battle of Orange Court House capturing another 20,000 men in the process. Then marches to Harpers Ferry where the sympathetic commander there surrenders his own 11,000. These losses do not go unnoticed and Britain and France agree to recognize the Confederacy realizing that the USA will undoubtedly surrender soon. And then Lincoln's government capitulates.
But the more I began to do research, the more I discovered that this war was one of a much, much larger picture. At home, there was massive dissent in southern California and indeed in 1859, there was legislation to separate California into two states. In Utah in 1857, the Mormons had led a quasi-rebellion against the U.S. government, and from what I've read of his personal documents, the only reason Brigham Young did not set up his own country was because the Union won the war. All of the claims of Utahn loyalty during the war was a sham. Even New York City at this point has a movement of people looking to create the Republic of Tri-Insula comprising Manhattan, Staten Island, and Long Island. It failed when the Confederacy released its tariff policy, which meant that the Southern states would have to be forced back into the Union for New York's heavily mercantile economy to compete... BUT if Southern victory seemed inevitable, New York too, would have to secede just to be able to survive.
Then there was also the fact that McClellan and a number of his underlings had talked rather boldly about marching on Washington to sweep out what they considered to be a corrupt and dangerous government. And indeed, remember that up until this point, there had never been a Republican President before, and since his election, the Union had split for the first time ever, habeas corpus had been suspended, there were daily reportings of violations of civil liberties, and there was increasingly more radical legislation coming from Congress. They and also many people in the society would have seen the restoration of a Democrat to power as something of a liberation from tyranny. And it seems that not a few of McClellan's soldiers agreed.
But there would have to be a catalyst for this, and essentially that catalyst is the debacle at Glendale and McClellan's subsequent arrest. It was a matter of scapegoating. In real life, McClellan pinned the responsibility for the Peninsula Campaign's failure on a lack of support from Lincoln, and indeed, many of the papers believed him. Stanton got more heat than anyone else in the government for the failure. Lincoln would have to arrest McClellan just to be able to keep Stanton. But arresting McClellan would set his lieutenants into motion, and as the situation steadily worsened and the Republicans' choice general, Pope, was humiliated, their movement would grow increasingly stronger.
So this was not my original design but rather grew out of further research... it seemed implausible to me at first, but the more I read and was amazed at how dangerously arrogant these men became, the more I realized how this could have been a very real threat.
(I've threadjacked my own thread!)
Nice plot for your story.. I've read a whole lot of Turtledove's novels and will be looking forward to yours.
As for me I've been writing several stories.
1. A Turkish soldier in the Ottoman army finds himself lost in a vampire-infested forest in the Balkans with a Gypsy caravan.
2. 0056 A.C.E. the beginning of WWIV. Generalisimo Mateo Zato of the Union of Two Pillars (Spain, Portugal, Vasco, Catalonia, Morocco, Western Sahara) invades Algeria, Mauretania, and Mali in cordination with several space colonies declaration of war against the United Nations. Before you know it you have most of the nations of Earth and it's orbit at war with eachother. This story covers the experiences of 13 characters who are soldiers, citizens, or politicians during this war.
As for me I've been writing several stories.
1. A Turkish soldier in the Ottoman army finds himself lost in a vampire-infested forest in the Balkans with a Gypsy caravan.
2. 0056 A.C.E. the beginning of WWIV. Generalisimo Mateo Zato of the Union of Two Pillars (Spain, Portugal, Vasco, Catalonia, Morocco, Western Sahara) invades Algeria, Mauretania, and Mali in cordination with several space colonies declaration of war against the United Nations. Before you know it you have most of the nations of Earth and it's orbit at war with eachother. This story covers the experiences of 13 characters who are soldiers, citizens, or politicians during this war.
Bobby Lee
Confederate General
i think i sumhow stumbled on to a hotbed of aspiring authors...
LAW_FREAK
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Well they didn't have chainmail in ancient timesfrenchman said:The gallic were wearing chainmail like the roman during the period of the Gaul War ( France war ) againt Cesar ... But if you don't want to put chainmail let leather but perhaps add a different helmet see the pictures below :
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LAW_FREAK said:
Well ... It's right on this picture ... I wanted to show the helmet ... But on this one I took in the very serious magazin " SCIENCE ET VIE " , ( Science and Life ) you can see that in the pictures of the battle of Alesia , both gallic and romans are wearing chainmail ...
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frenchman said:
I remember that magazine. I worked in a magazine warehouse until recently and we got a lot of French and European stuff as well. So I'm familiar with all the major European titles...
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Dom Pedro II said:
I can't say the same ... I only know " National geographic " ...
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frenchman said:I can't say the same ... I only know " National geographic " ...
And it's probably the French version too, right?
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