Crazy_Menace
Chieftain
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I played like 20 games with japanese, I had a leader one time only, -_-
Leaders are so rare!!!!!!!!!! any tips?
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That is about average. They are very powerful.
Sam_Catchem
Prince
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Yeah..I am pretty Militaristic early in the game...and I never get'em. So no Heroic Epic, etc. I am going to try with Militaristic attribute..but I do not think it will help all that much. When I do get them..I always rushed a wonder..because some other Civ is gonna beat me to it or something.
shirleyrocks
Prince
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I've discovered that the key to Great Leaders is ...
You have to fight. A LOT.
On average, I'll get about 2-4 GL's a game. But in my current game (Americans, Large Map, 2030AD) I've had all out slugfests that have eliminated the Iroquois, Zulu, Persians and the French.
I've had 9(!) Great Leaders this game.
Save your elite armor to beat up on cavalry and tanks and the leaders just come pouring out. Add them to the armies that my military academy has been cranking out and, well...I've been doing quite well this game thank you.
You have to fight. A LOT.
On average, I'll get about 2-4 GL's a game. But in my current game (Americans, Large Map, 2030AD) I've had all out slugfests that have eliminated the Iroquois, Zulu, Persians and the French.
I've had 9(!) Great Leaders this game.
Save your elite armor to beat up on cavalry and tanks and the leaders just come pouring out. Add them to the armies that my military academy has been cranking out and, well...I've been doing quite well this game thank you.
shirleyrocks
Prince
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Not true. I've read the 'four leader limit' rumor before too but I've had more than four twice now.
Sam_Catchem
Prince
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Bakant,
Do you each new leader?..I dunno.
Wonders are static though..so no to that.
Do you each new leader?..I dunno.
Wonders are static though..so no to that.
If you use your first leader to build an army, win a battle with it, and then build the Heroic Epic it increases your chances of getting great leaders from battles.
Callahan
Chieftain
The trick to getting leaders is:
1) don't let your elite units get killed
2) pick on weak units a lot with your elite units
3) Repeat 2) a whole lot
It's a certain chance that you'll get a leader each time you win a battle with an elite unit. This is increased once you have the Heroic Epic (for which you need a leader, which is annoying . . .)
A mistake I made early on was I would attack with an elite unit, and win, but then the elite unit was left exposed. Schlep around some 'cover' units that can protect your elite unit when it's damaged from beating up weaker units.
Also, you can increase your chances of leaders if you are strict about only attacking with elite units. However, I usually find that this slows down my attacks too much, at least unit more of my units level up from veteran.
Other tips:
- build barracks in every city; if your units start as vets, there's only one level to compelte to get to elite
- don't bother trying to get leaders by killing barbs.. only the units of other civs count
- I can't verify this, but it seems that fair fights have a better chance to create leaders than mismatches. Case in point, in one game I'm the French, and I out-teched a couple nearby civs and slaughtered their pikemen with Cavalry but didn't get any leaders. However, in the Modern age, I'm getting buttloads of leaders by taking out mech infantry with modern armor... seems like it's more of a fair fight. Perhaps it just seems that it's a better chance when I've got 60-70 tanks fighting rather than a couple dozen cavalry.
Callahan
1) don't let your elite units get killed
2) pick on weak units a lot with your elite units
3) Repeat 2) a whole lot
It's a certain chance that you'll get a leader each time you win a battle with an elite unit. This is increased once you have the Heroic Epic (for which you need a leader, which is annoying . . .)
A mistake I made early on was I would attack with an elite unit, and win, but then the elite unit was left exposed. Schlep around some 'cover' units that can protect your elite unit when it's damaged from beating up weaker units.
Also, you can increase your chances of leaders if you are strict about only attacking with elite units. However, I usually find that this slows down my attacks too much, at least unit more of my units level up from veteran.
Other tips:
- build barracks in every city; if your units start as vets, there's only one level to compelte to get to elite
- don't bother trying to get leaders by killing barbs.. only the units of other civs count
- I can't verify this, but it seems that fair fights have a better chance to create leaders than mismatches. Case in point, in one game I'm the French, and I out-teched a couple nearby civs and slaughtered their pikemen with Cavalry but didn't get any leaders. However, in the Modern age, I'm getting buttloads of leaders by taking out mech infantry with modern armor... seems like it's more of a fair fight. Perhaps it just seems that it's a better chance when I've got 60-70 tanks fighting rather than a couple dozen cavalry.
Callahan
WSmitty
Chieftain
If you're really desperate, run the civmod file and change the percentage of Great Leaders playing.... of course this changes it for EVERY civ!
LeroyJr
Chieftain
In my current game I fought the Egyptians for 60 turns and wiped out 30 Egyptian towns and their entire military. I was in a Repuplic Government and basically burnt my entire Civ to the ground during this whole event. It was Cavalry and Immortals vs Knights. Never recieved a single Leader out of the war. 50 attacking units for 60 turns and no leader.
GhostQ
Warlord
Chances of getting leaders when elite units win battles: 1/16
Chances of getting leaders when elite units win battles and if u have a Heroic Epic: 1/12
this means it raises the percentage of getting a leader by approx. %2 which is not worth sacrificing ur first leader to build an army. leaders r best for hurrying pyramids and/or forbidden palace depending on the strats u employ and/or the diff. lvl ur playing at.
Chances of getting leaders when elite units win battles and if u have a Heroic Epic: 1/12
this means it raises the percentage of getting a leader by approx. %2 which is not worth sacrificing ur first leader to build an army. leaders r best for hurrying pyramids and/or forbidden palace depending on the strats u employ and/or the diff. lvl ur playing at.
GhostQ
Warlord
and also if ur playing really militaristic, like achieving militaristic and/or dominatiom victory in standard 8 opponent maps ull get at least 3 leaders assuming ur playing a militaristic civilization.
The Art of War
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After I built Heroic Epic and the Pentagon, it let me build leaders in Washington, so I have about 15 leaders right now and I ran over the Aztecs. SO fun. 
Furry Spatula
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you mean build armies right? you cant build leaders, unless you modded the game. Also its the military academy that lets you build armies, the Hero Epic lets you get Leaders more often, and the Pentagon lets your armies have 4 units instead of 3. But its all the luck of the draw ppl. I have gotten 5 leaders from wars. This is just one game. And i've been at war for about 10% -25% of it, Thats real world time b/c it gets so slow when you have well over 200 workers running around, only 50 aren't captured .
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