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[off topic] Don't you ever sleep, you've been up all night just like me. Only think is I had to be up all night, I was at work. I'll be sleeping in a couple of hours. Have to be back at work at midnight.: :sleep: [off topic]
 
[off topic]I slept and woke up. I sleep whenever I'm tired and wake up whenever my body feels like it. Sometimes it's just a few hours, other times it's half a day. I need a job.[/off topic]
 
I have attempted to install Cedega the way that I typed last night, no luck. I have even attempted this way. Taken from the transgaming.com site. No luck.

Installation

The Cedega Time Demo can be installed in one of two ways: system wide for all users or on a per user basis. In either case, games will be installed to: /PATH_TO_INSTALLATION/.cedega_timedemo. Be sure that the Time Demo is installed into a location with enough space for games.
Shared System Wide Installation

As root run the installation package using:

# sh /PATH_TO_INSTALLER/cedega_timedemo_installer

When installing on a system wide basis all users will have the ability to run the Time Demo, install and play games. All installed games will be available to all users on the system.

I keep getting told no such file or directory. The file is in my home directory inside Download folder. I don't understand what the problem is. I have substituted this for /home/download for "x" then typed cedga_timedemo_installer. I don't get it.
 
Which file or directory? The destination folder or the source installer? After which steps do you get the error? When doing sh to run the script?
 
bgast1 said:
From the Mandriva Club I executed the following statements, and they worked:

urpmi.addmedia "club.commercial_x86-32_2006" https://bgast1@hotmail.com:PASSWORD@dl.mandriva.com/rpm/comm/2006.0/i586/ with hdlist.cz

urpmi.addmedia "club.club_x86-32_2006" https://bgast1@hotmail.com:PASSWORD@dl.mandriva.com/rpm/club/2006.0/i586/ with hdlist.cz

Let me guess what I did. I game myself access to all of Mandriva's Club proprietary and Open Source urpmi's. Not the actual packages but the ability to install them. Is that correct? But I had better install them before my membership is up in 24 days, if I want any of them? (At least the proprietary ones) That is why Padma gave me the http://easyurpmi.zarb.org?

Obviously I won't want all of these. But if there are other desktop managers in there like Gnome. I might like to look at them. If the latest OpenOffice is in there I would like to get that. I would like to try amarok. If there is a database manager in there I would like to get that. But what else might be cool?
Yes, you have given yourself access to the Club repositories. I assume they will become inactive for you when your trial membership runs out. And yes, the EasyUrpmi site is there for those of us that aren't Club members. ;) (Actually, EasyUrpmi just helps you set up to access whatever free repositories you want to have - it maintains lists of them for you to pick from. When you get to Step 3, it generates the "urpmi.addmedia" commands for you to enter. :))

Definitely check out other desktops/window managers. I am sold on KDE for my primary machine, but I am seriously thinking about using fluxbox on an old laptop I have laying around.

I keep getting told no such file or directory. The file is in my home directory inside Download folder. I don't understand what the problem is. I have substituted this for /home/download for "x" then typed cedga_timedemo_installer. I don't get it.
Try doing everything the same, but type "./cedega_timedemo_installer". The "./" is very important. It tells the shell that you want to run *this* instance of that command. (Unlike Windows, Linux does not assume that your current directory is in your path -- better security. ;))
 
Padma -- Do you think that I will lose the ability to use what I install from the Club after my trial membership runs out? If so then I will just delete them and go to easyurpmi. Can you give me an idea of the names of the packages that I will probably be most interested in, and the quickest way to install them, otherwise I will probably have to read through a thousand packages.

As stated before, I know that I want to look at different desktop managers, possibly a few games (solitare for sure), a database manager, latest version of OpenOffice (is that the former Star Office or what is the status of Star Office), amarok(actually different players as well, in Windows, I never really liked the sound of Winamp, but actually chose WMP over it), the codecs to play DVD's and video files, is there a program to burn DVD's, but beyond that I have no idea. Someday, I would like to learn some programming. I have done a bit in the past, (very simple) with dbaseIII+ and issued programming statements in Q&A to run a business I used to own. But, certainly could not call myself anything near a programmer. Besides it will be probably difficult for me to learn, as I have always been terrible with math and logic. But it won't hurt to try.

I will go to transgaming today and subscribe for 3 months. I finally scraped $15.00 together. Hopefully that will help me solve some of my installation problems. I am suffering terribly for Civ III withdrawl:lol:, and I just started playing the game for the first time recently

Have nice day everyone!!!....Bob
 
You should be able to *use* what you get from the Club repositories with no problem. You might not be able to update them. But the best stuff (IMHO) is on the free servers anyway. Be sure you also add those, in addition to the CLub repositories. ;)

As for a list of packages, that could be rather large. ;) You will probably want the kmultimedia packages. (If you use the search tool in the Mandriva Control Center - Software Installation, it is pretty easy to find things.) Kmultimedia includes the "noatune" player, the kaudiocreator ripper, the kaboodle media player, kmix (audio mixer), kscd (cd player), etc. search for amarok, mplayer, xine. Look for "gnome", and icewm, and fvwm, and blackbox, and fluxbox (all desktop/window managers). OpenOffice now has an "Access"-like database, but if you want more, check out mySQL and postgresql, like kinjoshi suggested, above. StarOffice still exists, and may be purchased from Sun. OpenOffice is virtually the same as StarOffice (it shares the code base), and is free. StarOffice 8 is current, and is basically the same as OpenOffice 2. I *think* you can get OO 2.0 from the CLub repositories. If not, you can go to OpenOffice.org and get the latest (2.0.2) in a gzipped tar format (and I can explain how to install it). For DVD-burning, t he best tool is K3b. Depending on exactly what you are doing, there may be some additional tools nice to have, as well.

Everything I listed (with the exception of OO2.0.2) is available from the repositories, And OO 2.0 may be on the Club repositories. So you can use the MCC/rpmdrake to install everything with a few clicks of the mouse.

ANd, a small word of caution: Sometimes Cedega doesn't agree with games that are supposedly quite playable under it. When I upgraded to 2006, and Cedega to 5.0.x, I broke my Civ3. :( I haven't taken the time necessary to debug what is going on, yet, because I can always steal borrow my wife's WinXP laptop ... :mischief:
 
What does it mean when a package has a bad signature? It then asks if I want to continue installing or not.

If when installing a package is already installed on my machine, what will package manager do? Overwrite automatically? Install another copy?
 
The "Bad Signature" message can crop up occasionally. There is a key file somewhere that is out of sync, and needs to be updated. If you know you are downloading from valid Mandriva sources, just tell it to continue. (I don't recall the name of the file that has the keys, so I can't tell you which file to update. :crazyeye: )

If the package manager is aware that the package is already installed, it will not even give you the option to install it, again. If you install a package manually (i.e., the package manager doesn't know it's there), it will overwrite the existing package.
 
Where will I find the packages that I install? For instance, I am installing books, will they be found in KDE under documentation or will I have to do some kind of search? Same with audio stuff?

Under Cluster -- There is Message Passing and Queueing Services. I doubt that I will be using them, but what are they?
 
bgast1 said:
Where will I find the packages that I install? For instance, I am installing books, will they be found in KDE under documentation or will I have to do some kind of search? Same with audio stuff?
You will find packages wherever the rpm says they should go. ;)

*Usually* you can find them in the menues, at least if they are gui programs. For command-line utilities, and for libraries, etc. you may have to use "whereis <filename>", "locate <filename>", or "find / -name <filename>". Althogh most programs will end up under "/usr/bin", or "/usr/local/bin", or on rare occasions, "/opt".

bgast1 said:
Under Cluster -- There is Message Passing and Queueing Services. I doubt that I will be using them, but what are they?
Never heard of them. :)

I assume they have to do with clustering computers, and communication between them -- not likely something you're doing.
 
I have been restarting my computer after every group of packages that I install to insure that I don't pick up something incompatible like before. Is that necessary? Does rebooting accomplish the same thing as shutting down the computer completely and restarting it?

By the way, I'm not sure why it does this but Linux does not power off my computer when I shut it down. Windows does. Actually, I hardly ever shut my computer off anyway, but I was curious.
 
You shouldn't have to reboot your computer. And yes, rebooting is *almost* the same as shutting down and restarting. The only difference is that when you physically shut down, if you pause for like 30 seconds before restarting, components that have volatile memory will be sure to be cleared. Sometimes that is neccessary for certain modem/other perpheral problems.

Linux *should* power off your computer. I would guess that you need to tweak your boot paramaters to include "noapic", but I could be wrong.
 
Today has been an excellent day so far as my Linux experience is going. Thanks to you Padma and Kingjoshi. Especially the old guy. Your answers have proved invaluable, and everything is panning out perfectly. I just installed a ton of editors. Don't know what I will use them all for but the experience was good.

I am even becoming much more fond of Linux, than Windows every time I look at all the resources and stuff available to use. It is amazing.

Can I safely increase the size of /dev/sda1 without losing any data? If so, how? Otherwise, I need to remove a bunch of stuff and don't know what I am doing there. I know how to remove, I don't know what to remove.
 
Back up everything to CD or DVD (or to the other hard disk, if there's room). Then you can try using diskdrake, Mandriva's partition manager. You *might* want to try doing this from Mandriva One (or whatever their new live-CD is called), or from another Live-CD like Knopppix (where the tool is named QTParted). I don't know if it will non-destructively resize the partitions, which is why I recommend a full backup. ;)


And,like you, I get more frustrated with Windows every time I have to use it. Linux is so clean, and simple. :)
 
Well, it is a moot point now. I learn by doing. Looks like I removed a bunch of the wrong packages because I completely screwed up the KDE. Didn't know what to do, so I did a complete repartition and re-install. This time I will be more careful about how many and what packages I install.

Man, as I look around at my system, I hardly know what my problem was. It already has a ton of stuff on it.
Amarok
KAudioCreator
KsCd
Mindawn
Rosegarden Sound Recorder
Kaffiene
Kdenlinve
Real Player

So really what more do I need? Other than maybe some games, and to check out some alternative desktops and themes. I will go back to the club and download the repositories and easyurpmi again.
 
The 'basic' linux distro install comes with MUCH more than Windows. It's not comparable. Partly because Windows is considered a monopoly :mischief:
 
Kingjoshi -- You really don't want to get me started on a tirade about Microsoft.:mad:

Padma -- I subscribed to Transgaming last night, I downloaded Cedega, I got it installed, now I need to learn how to use it.
 
Don't worry. Most Linux users are already quite well-versed in anti-microsoft rants. ;)

Cedega is pretty easy. Stick a CD in the drive, start Cedega, and click the "Install" button. Then just follow the prompts. :) To play a game you've installed, select the game in the right-side panel, and hit the "Play" button. I should point out, too, that to install expansion packs (e.g., PTW and Conquests), you need to install them in the same "Game" group as the original. (That will make more sense after you install a few games. ;))
 
Well, I am going to have to go to the transgaming website, and do some reading, I think.:confused: Transgaming put up a listing in the star menu under applications and when I click on that a screen pops up called Cedaga Setup Wizard. 1 of 5. Except it doesn't do anything except sit there on my computer doing nothing it seems like forever. I betcha it's been at least 10 minutes.

Anyway, won't be much time for games today anyway. Income tax day. I have to do them all over again in Windows (turbotax), I had them done, but I owed and had to redo my hard disk completely and lost them and last years too. Was waiting to send them in because for some reason we owed. He who does not back up has it coming to himself.:mad: :( :sad:
 
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