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[bgast1]

Resolved the Cedega issue, my screen resolution was at 800x600 increased that and was able to get set up. However failed the following tests: Open GL Rendering, 3D Acceleration, and OSS Sound. How can I fix that? I know my video card is capable. Nvida PCX 5200 128mb (I think it's 128 anyway) I had no trouble playing Doom 3 in windows.

Also downloaded a driver off Nvidia site but don't really know how to install it. If I try to run the command Nvidia gave me I am told no such file or directory.

 

[kingjoshi]

I've never tried to install proprietary drivers. If your cedega experiment goes well, I might do the same. But I have daemon-tools and mount a disc image of the Civ4 CD. I can't do that on linux, AFAIK. I just hate carrying the disc around.

 

[Padma]

Hmmm. The nvidia drivers are supposed to be pretty easy to install.

In a Konsole, cd to the directory where you saved it, and then enter the command "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run" (assuming that is the driver you D/Led). If that doesn't work, make it "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run". If that doesn't work either, post back here.

Edit: And be sure to read the README file from nvidia!

 

[bgast1]

Didn't work. That is the same command I tried to issue. Also tried the other one. The file in in my Home directory in a Download folder. Even tried sh to root.

 

[Chairman Meow]

I've never tried to install proprietary drivers. If your cedega experiment goes well, I might do the same. But I have daemon-tools and mount a disc image of the Civ4 CD. I can't do that on linux, AFAIK. I just hate carrying the disc around.

Unless the CD does something really weird, it should be possible to do that in Linux... something like:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdrom.iso [to make an image of the disk]
mount /path/to/cdrom.iso /mnt/cdrom -t iso9660 -o loop [to mount the image]

should do the trick.

 

[kingjoshi]

cIV is safedisc protected. So a regular ISO file doesn't work. I had to use an obsure program (ddump) to get it to dump a RAW image. Daemon-tools works fine for mounting on Windows. But on Linux, I need CDemu or something else to mount the image. Since I don't have Cedega and haven't optimized my graphics drivers for linux, it doesn't seem worth it. Though I did just spend an hour right now to try to get it to work

Anyway, if I get the urge to play, I'll just reboot to Windows. The advantage of this is, this extra step keeps me from playing

 

[bgast1]

Padma -- the directions say that I need to exit X. The drivers won't install any other way. My system boots to KDE. I don't really want to mess with the system too much, but I want to install the drivers correctly, and I need the Open GL, and 3d acceleration.

 

[kingjoshi]

CTRL+ALT+F1 (up to F6) will take you to an independent console. CTRL+ALT+F7 will bring you back to the Desktop.

From the console, you can shut down your display manager and (re)start it as well.

For Ubuntu, I use /etc/init/gdm stop|start|restart
instead of gdm, you might be running kdm

 

[Chairman Meow]

cIV is safedisc protected. So a regular ISO file doesn't work. I had to use an obsure program (ddump) to get it to dump a RAW image. Daemon-tools works fine for mounting on Windows. But on Linux, I need CDemu or something else to mount the image. Since I don't have Cedega and haven't optimized my graphics drivers for linux, it doesn't seem worth it. Though I did just spend an hour right now to try to get it to work

Anyway, if I get the urge to play, I'll just reboot to Windows. The advantage of this is, this extra step keeps me from playing

See, this is one of the reasons that DRM annoys me so much... (and one of the reasons why I haven't bothered to buy Civ4, since my experience with the DRM in Civ3 annoyed me...) but this is off-topic to this thread.

Although, I have been thinking lately about buying Cedega... anyone know if Civ3-Conquests works well in Cedega, and what kind of system requirements are needed for it to work well?

Also, lately I've been fiddling with Windows 2000 in qemu in Linux, and I attempted to install Civ3, and the installer failed. I'm not sure what is causing it (it gives the cryptic error message "Class not registered.") I tried installing another game, Superpower, and it installed, but refused to run, claiming a debugger was running in the background... I'm thinking that when I get back to college after Easter break, I might try installing SimCity2K, and see what happens there.

 

[Comraddict]

to run nvidia installer you need to exit init 5 (graphic display) and type

chmod 777 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run

 

[bgast1]

Is the only way I can get Open GL and 3D acceleration to work, by installing the driver direct from NVIDIA? I am still having trouble installing it. The main problem I am having is exiting X, and then I am not sure if I have to change directories. Anyway, the few times I get any response from the command at all it tells me I have to exit X.

Going back to read the NVIDIA readme file.

 

[kingjoshi]

so you're outside of X right? And you did gdm stop? I think it's also possible to telinit 3 or something. Can't remember exactly.

 

[Chairman Meow]

Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in as root, type "init 3" (without the quotes). That should shut down X. If that doesn't work, then try typing "init 2" (which one it is depends on the Linux distro you're using, I don't remember which one Mandrake is.) After doing this, cd to the directory where the installer is, and then type "./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run"

 

[bgast1]

Chairman Meow -- I did what you said and it came back and told me permission denied. Also, how do I get back to X without rebooting?

 

[Chairman Meow]

Chairman Meow -- I did what you said and it came back and told me permission denied. Also, how do I get back to X without rebooting?

You might need to do "chmod a+x ./NVIDIA..." before doing "./NVIDIA...". That gives you permission to run the command. To get back to X, type "init 5".

 

[bgast1]

Well. Apparantly the driver that I downloaded which NVIDIA indicates is the correct driver will not install, something about the kernel being wrong, I don't recall all the errors that came up. I installed Civ III with Cedega, but it won't play. I guess it really needs the open GL and 3D acceleration to run.

[Strong Vent] And I really really really wanted to get away from Windows as much as possible *&^%$$#$%%$%$%$#%*()[Strong Vent ends]

 

[Padma]

Hmm. You may have installed the latest kernel sources during your updates. But your kernel won't be updated until/unless you explicitly do it via urpmi. So you would have a mismatch between your kernel and the source for it. I know for the ATI driver I have to be sure the two are in sync.

 

[bgast1]

I finally got Open GL and 3D rendering to work but I stll fail on OSS Sound. I don't really know what that is, or if I really need it. Going to see if Civ III will work now.

Edit about 45 minutes later. Yes!!!!!! I got Civ III to work, and started a game. I do have a question though. Is the game supposed to run in a window with Cedega or full screen, just like in Windows?

Links 2001 shows up in the Cedega database. Does that mean it would be worthless for me to try Links 2003? Also, Tiger Woods 2006 shows up in the Cedega database but I have Tiger Woods 2005. I am concerned that I install something that isn't compatible, I won't be able to remove it and it will screw up my system which I have worked so hard to get working right.

 

[Padma]

With Cedega, you can configure it either way, using the preferences option on the Cedega window. IIRC, it works best as full-screen, but many have been happy (enough) using it windowed.

And don't worry about installing something non-compatible in Cedega. Cedega basically uses a "sandbox" for each program; If something doesn't work in Cedega, just delete it from Cedega. No effect on any non-Cedega (i.e. "normal") things.

 

[bgast1]

This probably belongs in a different thread, but I was just curious. My wife has to use Windows and connects to a school district server. I am concerned about viruses on my Windows hard drive. It is not protected. If a virus attacks my computer can it also affect hardware? or at worst I will have to repartition and re-install?