Linux?

Neomega

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I was wondering if anyone could explain the theory behind Linux... and why it is so much more "powerful" than Windows.

Is it because it is shareware, or freeware? Is it because it uses a more dextrous file system? IS it because it is not too foolproof
like many Windows OS's?

I am having a tough time installing Windows to an olf Frankenstein computer I have brought back to life from many old computers. I am thinking of tinkering with Linux on it.
 
Linux is based off the old "Onux" system, IIRC. It is more stable then Windows, kinda like Mac OS . . .

I believe it is freeware, it's only detriment is that you cannot play many games on it. I am currently considering getting Linux for all my Non-gaming activities, and sticking all my games in XP. Partitioning my system, I guess you might call it . . .

Ask some of the more technological know-how people for more info, or check out the Linux website
 
Ok.

First, linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel, which means only the heart of an OS that interacts with the hardware. And it's based on Minix, which objective's was to reproduce UNIX, that was developed by AT&T about 30 years ago.

Second, linux (as a kernel) isn't freeware. It's open source, released under the terms of General Public License (GPL). It's free (in the money sense) and free (liberty), which means you can do whatever you want with the source code, as long as changes are released to the public.

The great thing about linux is the modularity. Everything is as independant as it can be. You don't need to run a GUI, don't install the graphical server and use the console only.

There are more than one graphical server (all based on the same protocol, X) the most known one being XFree. Once you have the server running, you can run one of the dozens of window manger to actually control the windows, or one of the two desktop environment that both somehow look like most known GUIs like Windows or MacOS.

The filesystems (because again there is lots of choices) are UNIX filesystems. Which means that each file is owned by a user and a group, and you can modify each file's permission for the group, the user, and everyone else. Properties include read, write and execute. And as a user, you don't have access to the root filesystem (like important configuration files). So your important files are protected as long as you don't use program as root (admin-mode).

As for why it's better than windows, well it all depends on what you use your computer for. Installing software that doesn't come bundled with your distribution of choice (Distributions are the kernel with the graphic server, and window manager, and various programs you'll need) can be hard and long. But some distributions make it easy to install new software. But on the other hand it's almost impossible to completely kill the OS. Forget the blue screens of death. As everything is independant, a program can't bring down the system if it crashes. And if you don't need high end professional apps, and just do office stuff, internet browsing, and listen to music, it's perfect for you as you're protected against all the virus from the windows world (linux can't run windows programs, so it can't run the viruses either).

And finally, the distribution choice is also quite large, so you might want to look at some before actually downloading one. The most known ones are RedHat (now a community project called fedora), Suse (only the ftp version is free), Mandrake (the best for people who don't know anything about linux if you ask me). But if you want to really test linux, get knoppix. It boots from a cd and lets you the chance to use almost anything linux without installing anything on your hard drive. And as I said there are dozens of other linux distro, but you probably don't want to use an underground or geeky distro as your first contact with linux.

So... Uhm, if there's anything you still don't understand, just ask.
 
Hard act to follow, Sodapop :goodjob:

On the practical side, to get an idea of what a Linux system is, get one of the "live-CDs" of Linux; Knoppix is probably best. These are an OS on CD so that you can boot into it from your CD drive (no installation at all!) to get a hands-on experience of what a typical Linux is like and the equivalent programs to Windows eg OpenOffice (for MS Office), the Gimp (for Photoshop) etc.

I'd recommend Mandrake ("distribution") as a good and easy entry to Linux.
 
take look at this linux on russian :)
 

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Later on if you decide you wan't something for more experienced users you might want to try Gentoo. But let me warn you, the installation process can make your life a living hell. Once you do it you can probably do anything.
 
Originally posted by Neomega
I am having a tough time installing Windows to an olf Frankenstein computer I have brought back to life from many old computers. I am thinking of tinkering with Linux on it.
This is probably what made me stop using Linux. The computer was too darn slow to really do anything (in both Windows and Linux), so I suggest you try it on a system you'd use.

Now, I only have XP on a rescue disc, which, if I've understood everything correctly(?), means I can't partition the drive to both have Linux and XP. Any suggestions?
 
More details of your system?

Generally you can have both WinXP and Linux on the one hard disk provided you have sufficient capacity. You need to install the WinXP first. With a friendly system like Mandrake 9.1 (not the latest but good enough for me) you can then partition your HD while you are installing the Linux O/s - it's part of the Mandrake installing process; no need to used progs like Partition Magic. Dual booting is quite well established either on one HD or more.

And the new Linux distros can handle the WinXP ntfs file system.
 
We'll get a new computer at the end of March, and hopefully they'll allow me to use one of the 2-3GHz computers to do whatever I want with. Is Mandrake free to download?
 
Yes, Mandrake is free to download. Go to www.mandrake-linux.com and you can follow links to down load the ISOs which you will need to burn as images to CD-R. Let me look for a link for you.

FTP link for an FTP server in Sweden...which I recommend any one in the world to download from. They are fast!
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/

You can also check out www.distrowatch.com . They have listen just about every distribution of Linux that is out there and have lkinks to downloads.
 
@funxus
If you do not have access to broadband (require for the 3 CDs worh of files for Mandrake 9.1), it would be worthwhile finding out whether there is a Linux Users Group in your locality (Google if you you can't find any local references). It's usually named in the format XLUG where X is your city or even state. Members being quite enthusiastic about promoting their OS would be more than happy to copy the 3 CDs for you for essentially the cost of the blank CDs. And membership cost is miminal if not free.
 
Thanks. I have downloaded the 3 ISOs (broadband), although I'm not sure yet what the 3rd is for, and not really the 2nd either. I intend to burn them this week and try them on an old computer first, than on a better one, in case something goes wrong.:)
 
The first CD is the only one *required* to load Mandrake Linux. It will give you a basic, fairly stripped-down system. The 2nd and 3rd include various "bells and whistles", which make the Linux environment friendlier, and more fun. :)

You start the install with the first CD, and it asks you at some point if you have either or both of the other two. It will prompt you for them at the appropriate point in the installation if you respond in the affirmative.
 
I installed Mandrake this morning and it didn't ask me how many cds I'd got, but it installed fine anyway. The 2nd cd seems to contain a huge amount of programs in .rpm-files. How do I know what the programs do? And how do I install them? I'll check up the later question my self soon, but if anyone has anything to say about installing programs I would like to hear it.

Also, how do I get the network to work with Windows? IIRC I need Samba, but how do I set it all up?
 
Originally posted by funxus
I installed Mandrake this morning and it didn't ask me how many cds I'd got, but it installed fine anyway. The 2nd cd seems to contain a huge amount of programs in .rpm-files. How do I know what the programs do? And how do I install them? I'll check up the later question my self soon, but if anyone has anything to say about installing programs I would like to hear it.

The Control Center is very helpful. Get there (you need to be root) and find an install packages option. Entering that will give you a menu which lists the available rpms and a brief description of what they do. Options for categories or alphabetical listing.

Also, how do I get the network to work with Windows? IIRC I need Samba, but how do I set it all up?
Yes, Samba is central to Win-Linux networking. It can be a bit fiddly to set up (the config file like a lot of Lnux configs are designed for flexibility and therefore large) but for straight forward use, only a few entities need be tweaked. I've found this link particulary useful with hands-on advice:

http://www.samba.netfirms.com/

(Googling will bring up an embarrassing number of refs. many of which are outdated).
 
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