Lost Eden development thread

[vyeh]

42! The meaning of life!

42 left?

Have a safe one hey!

What do Aussies do on Christmas that could be unsafe? Now dangerous behavior on New Years Eve/Day I can understand.

And yes it would be great if we could manage it! I'll be pretty busy this weekend obviously but hey there's at least a few days of leeway.

I figure Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week should be enough to finish the remaining artwork and quotes.

 

[Kilkakon]

42 left?

Yeah, 42 quotes to write.

What do Aussies do on Christmas that could be unsafe? Now dangerous behavior on New Years Eve/Day I can understand.

Oh just some people drink lots and so on and people are short on the roads etc. I didn't mean anything other than a general wish of good health.

I figure Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week should be enough to finish the remaining artwork and quotes.

God willing it will! I'll try my best.

 

[vyeh]

Oh just some people drink lots and so on

I suppose there are people who will drink a lot on any holiday.

and people are short on the roads etc.

Doesn't sound like the Christmas spirit, either religious or secular.

I'll try my best.

Good. I'd like to get it to beta and then expand the publicity. Why don't you PM Petek and see if there is a way that he can place a CFC site wide announcement?

 

[Kilkakon]

Doesn't sound like the Christmas spirit, either religious or secular.

It was more my Christian nature in general really, I don't want people to get hurt! Christmas is meant to be a pleasant and relaxed time of great fellowship, so let's do that thing folks!

Good. I'd like to get it to beta and then expand the publicity. Why don't you PM Petek and see if there is a way that he can place a CFC site wide announcement?

Yeah it's not like I need to have every single part of the game 100% done as it's beta, not gold, release. I'll PM Petek when I finish this picture (getting though it, just shading me to go!).

 

[vyeh]

Yeah it's not like I need to have every single part of the game 100% done as it's beta, not gold, release. I'll PM Petek when I finish this picture (getting though it, just shading me to go!).

What is left for 100%?

 

[Kilkakon]

To achieve total completion, here's the todo list:

• Remaining 42 40 quotes
• Record Tristan/Oblivion/Meora/Navius quotes
• Artwork: Entertainer (perhaps), Village, Spy Captured
• BETA CHECKPOINT
• Advertise properly
• Get feedback from more than one player
• Cast and record all remaining quotes
• Cast and record the EVA (computer readout person)
• Write Tech Longs (seen on technology screen)
• Artwork: Title Screen, bad, break, cloud, forgr, fung, liberate*, seized, starv, unitfound, new resource discovered, holobooks, perhaps others
• Remaining sounds, such as unit selected, attacking noises and so on
• Make a website for the game (I've been toying with the idea of making a dev blog for all my projects/art in general which would work here)
• RELEASE CHECKPOINT
• Continue to support game with any necessary scenarios, events and patches

And here is the village WIP:

What do you think?

EDIT: Also managed to do the little icons on the bottom right of technology discovered, as well as a G version of what I currently have for the PG pickfac (the pictures of all the leaders when making a new game).

EDIT: Temporary title screen done. And here's a WIP of the Spy Captured. What do you think? I'm not sure if this works or not.

EDIT: Two quotes for Edge:

Look out this window. What do you see? It's horrid isn't it? All the carnage, the desolation, the pain... Why does this have to happen? Why can't we all exist here peacefully? Our very presence here is a gift in itself so let us not waste our lives so recklessly. All this pathetic infighting between us must come to an end. I will build a new community were we can coexist peacefully. What happened here today need never happen again. -- Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

There comes a time when even the peaceful are forced to take up arms and defend their homes against the coming darkness. -- Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

EDIT: Entertainer done. Blonde haired citizen with grin and glasses... like this: !

EDIT: The Aquaduct is now known as the Water Supply. This gets around some grammar issues with the population limit reached popup.

 

[vyeh]

And here is the village WIP:

What do you think?

Looks good.

EDIT: Also managed to do the little icons on the bottom right of technology discovered, as well as a G version of what I currently have for the PG pickfac (the pictures of all the leaders when making a new game).

Can you show me one of the little icons?

EDIT: Temporary title screen done. And here's a WIP of the Spy Captured. What do you think? I'm not sure if this works or not.

He doesn't look captured. It looks like he is fighting another spy.

EDIT: Two quotes for Edge:

Good.

EDIT: Entertainer done. Blonde haired citizen with grin and glasses... like this: !

Where is pic?

EDIT: The Aquaduct is now known as the Water Supply. This gets around some grammar issues with the population limit reached popup.

I think water supply makes more sense.

 

[Kilkakon]

Can you show me one of the little icons?

Sure, attached with the spy Entertainer!

He doesn't look captured. It looks like he is fighting another spy.

Okay, what would you suggest I do here?

I think water supply makes more sense.

Yeah it does!

I'll admit that I lost a bit of my mojo over this afternoon. I'm on the up again now though! Just explaining the overall lack of quotes for today. I'll endeavour to do as many as possible tonight though!

With the artwork (bar spy) being done, only the quotes remain for beta, as well as any promotional material that I need to make.

EDIT: Quotes!

Social Initatives, spoken by Edge:

My people have often felt let out of leader's decisions before they came here. Their fates were decided for them rather than having a chance to voice their concerns publicly. That is why I am here: I promise a better a life. Together we end injustice and give everyone the chance to work together towards the greater goal of freedom. - Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

Inter-Species Society, also spoken by Edge, kind of obviously

I, Caretaker Edge, welcome you Seafoam refugees to the Rakis Community. Your presence here proves what we are all about for we welcome all peoples of every tribe, every sex and every species into our society. For only together, when all voices can be heard, can there be true peace or true justice. - Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

Marketplace, Edge too

It is the responsibilty and privilege of the market to bring life to a society. - Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

Lukas' opening quote:

Few people really consider what the forest holds. It can a place to lose yourself walking through the endless trees. It can a dangerous place; full of wolves and other wild animals. But those who respect the forest, and what it holds, they can find something not only worth protecting but fulfilling as well. - Warden Lukas, Plantation opening speech

Native Cooperation, spoken by Lukas:

Yes, I know that this is a strange world, full of unknown surprises. But even so there's no reason to panic. Let's adapt what we've learnt working in the forest to this new environment. Surely if we show the same care and respect for these vines and their inhabitants as we did for our forest, then we'll end up solving two problems at once. - Warden Lukas, Lodge Arguments

And heh I wonder when they will switch us back to the default forum theme.

 

[vyeh]

Sure, attached with the spy Entertainer!

Where do those appear?

Okay, what would you suggest I do here?

Can you put him under a net?

I'll admit that I lost a bit of my mojo over this afternoon. I'm on the up again now though! Just explaining the overall lack of quotes for today. I'll endeavour to do as many as possible tonight though!

I think one of my roles is to keep some progress. Even one quote a day is progress.

With the artwork (bar spy) being done, only the quotes remain for beta, as well as any promotional material that I need to make.

Good.

EDIT: Quotes!

Social Initatives, spoken by Edge:

My people have often felt let out of the leader's decisions before they came here. Their fates were decided for them rather than having a chance to voice their concerns publicly. That is why I am here: I promise a better a life. Together we end injustice and give everyone the chance to work together towards the greater goal of freedom. - Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

Inter-Species Society, also spoken by Edge, kind of obviously

Good.

Marketplace, Edge too

Good.

Lukas' opening quote:

Few people really consider what the forest holds. It can be a place to lose yourself walking through the endless trees. It can be a dangerous place; full of wolves and other wild animals. But for those who respect the forest, and what it holds, they can find something not only worth protecting but fulfilling as well. - Warden Lukas, Plantation opening speech

Native Cooperation, spoken by Lukas:

Good.

And heh I wonder when they will switch us back to the default forum theme.

After New Years Day.

 

[Kilkakon]

Where do those appear?

In cities. They are Doctors with a new face.

Can you put him under a net?

A net! (hehe a tiny net? XD) I can give it a go.

I think one of my roles is to keep some progress. Even one quote a day is progress.

Sure! I feel a bit bad that I haven't done more over today/yesterday... I'll try and make up for it tomorrow. There's no real need for me to do any drawing, so I'll just do work instead.

My people have often felt let out of the leader's decisions before they came here. Their fates were decided for them rather than having a chance to voice their concerns publicly. That is why I am here: I promise a better a life. Together we end injustice and give everyone the chance to work together towards the greater goal of freedom. - Caretaker Edge, "Peace Catalyst"

How about "their respective leaders'" instead of "the leader's"?

Few people really consider what the forest holds. It can be a place to lose yourself walking through the endless trees. It can be a dangerous place; full of wolves and other wild animals. But for those who respect the forest, and what it holds, they can find something not only worth protecting but fulfilling as well. - Warden Lukas, Plantation opening speech

Changes made.

After New Years Day.

Alrighty!

Petek has been in touch with me RE: annoucements and asked me to write something up. I should be able to do this on Friday.

 

[vyeh]

In cities. They are Doctors with a new face.

I was confused by the "quote" and info boxes.

A net! (hehe a tiny net? XD) I can give it a go.

Or a big net.

Sure! I feel a bit bad that I haven't done more over today/yesterday... I'll try and make up for it tomorrow. There's no real need for me to do any drawing, so I'll just do work instead.

Don't worry about making up. As long as there is progress.

How about "their respective leaders'" instead of "the leader's"?

Or "their leaders'".

 

[Kilkakon]

Don't worry about making up. As long as there is progress.

Thanks! I can beat myself up a bit much over playing around a bit I suppose. I was away today and yesterday at a friend's house--was there a bit longer than expected and I am really really tired! ... Tomorrow I aim to get as much done as I can get away with... I do know that the lawns are getting a bit long, and my cousin may also resurface (and hilarity ensues if she does... haha more like she'll just use some time up). There's also some videos that need recording too.

I'll do my best! As far as what needs to be done for release happy action, I can forsee the following:

• Getting some new cool screenshots (not sure which version to use, or both?)
• Write that annoucement for Petekman
• Quotes

Anything else you can think of there?

Or "their leaders'".

Done.

JH24 PMed me and said that he is focusing on getting into his exams at the moment and doesn't have the time to do a lot of playtesting, but passes on best wishes to you and me. And Happy New Year from me too! I'll be sleeping when it happens but happy new year anyway.

EDIT: Here's the spy with a net:

 

[vyeh]

As far as what needs to be done for release happy action, I can forsee the following:

• Getting some new cool screenshots (not sure which version to use, or both?)

Where are you using the screenshots? I would use the G version.

• Write that annoucement for Petekman

Is this CFC wide? PM (CGN) your draft!

• Quotes

How many are left?

Anything else you can think of there?

We should revisit a general announcement to place on other sites (the alpha ones and additional ones).

JH24 PMed me and said that he is focusing on getting into his exams at the moment and doesn't have the time to do a lot of playtesting, but passes on best wishes to you and me.

I assume after his exams he will give Lost Eden a whirl, so we might as well wait for his feedback before going to beta (besides, there are still the quotes). As long as we are making some progress (and don't worry about the occasional day or day and a half during holidays - note that I have also had day and a half or so breaks!), we should both be very satisfied.

And Happy New Year from me too! I'll be sleeping when it happens but happy new year anyway.

Happy New Year! Looks like there are no more Christmas trees for presence/absence on the left, but there are still smilies with red hats.

EDIT: Here's the spy with a net:

Excellent.

 

[Kilkakon]

Where are you using the screenshots? I would use the G version.

For the manual and presentation purposes (news posts and so on). I'ld like to avoid using G where possible of course as it is not the real version... I'll probably create two versions of each screen.

Is this CFC wide? PM (CGN) your draft!

Yes, and okay I will!

How many are left?

37.

We should revisit a general announcement to place on other sites (the alpha ones and additional ones).

Good point. There's also considering how we are going to distribute them too, with the whole two version thing.

I assume after his exams he will give Lost Eden a whirl, so we might as well wait for his feedback before going to beta (besides, there are still the quotes). As long as we are making some progress (and don't worry about the occasional day or day and a half during holidays - note that I have also had day and a half or so breaks!), we should both be very satisfied.

(yes he did say he would play when he can) Oh okay then! I did tell him that I would have it ready by then, but that doesn't mean I can't just give him what's been doing so far. Thanks for the encouragement too regarding not worrying too much about time loss... I can beat myself up over it a little. Still, I did manage to get nearly everything I mentioned that I had to do today done, making tomorrow the last real day I have lots of misc. things to do. I'm going to get back onto things as fast as I can!

Happy New Year! Looks like there are no more Christmas trees for presence/absence on the left, but there are still smilies with red hats.

The red smiles are not for me! They should fully clear for you soon.

Excellent.

Great! I was initially worried it might look a little basic but cool it works.

 

[vyeh]

For the manual and presentation purposes (news posts and so on). I'ld like to avoid using G where possible of course as it is not the real version... I'll probably create two versions of each screen.

For a screenshot of the general map, it will probably be the same. Anything distributed through CFC, e.g. manual, will need to be G.

Yes, and okay I will!

Let me know when you PM me.

37.

Let's keep a running count.

Good point. There's also considering how we are going to distribute them too, with the whole two version thing.

I assume that the beta(s) will be on your site. Final (gold) should be uploaded to whichever sites will have it.

(yes he did say he would play when he can) Oh okay then! I did tell him that I would have it ready by then, but that doesn't mean I can't just give him what's been doing so far.

No reason not to update the alpha that you keep on your site. Especially now that the artwork is complete.

The red smiles are not for me! They should fully clear for you soon.

They're gone.

Great! I was initially worried it might look a little basic but cool it works.

I think it gets the point across.

 

[Kilkakon]

For a screenshot of the general map, it will probably be the same. Anything distributed through CFC, e.g. manual, will need to be G.

Well the general maps aren't the same anymore due to having to get the units censored too, hence why I mentioned it in the first place. You're right in saying that G will be used here of course.

Let me know when you PM me...Let's keep a running count.

Okay to both!

I assume that the beta(s) will be on your site. Final (gold) should be uploaded to whichever sites will have it.

Correct. I'll make a proper website soon (getting a bit tired of the very basic readme theme) to put everything onto.

No reason not to update the alpha that you keep on your site. Especially now that the artwork is complete.

I haven't been updating it purely because otherwise the alpha and beta would be no different and both downloads would be available. Still it shouldn't take too long to get 35 quotes organised and then we can secretly distribute things just before going beta.

They're gone.

We shall remember them well.

I think it gets the point across.

Okay great.

Sunday today of course, so church first, and then I've got some more misc. jobs to do but I should have plenty time to get some quotes in.





EDIT: Quotes! More added in as time goes by...

First up: Lukas talking about Native Embassies. Not 100% sure if it works or not but it's a start:

These natives that you despise so much have not only the capability to live in harmony with us but also can assist us in matters of research. It's no surprise when one considers how greatly they differ from us; their background way of life grants them a unique approach to life's problems. What we have done is constructed habitats in our cities that allow the Natives to come and live among us. Not only are they able to contribute to new ideas and solutions, they can bring their experience to the forefront as well. - Warden Lukas, Arguments in Council

EDIT2: Next, Lukas speaking about Human Flexibility:

This is a strange new world with a new set of challenges and problems. Shall we break against the rocks of adversity? No, we shall bend like the tree greets the wind. We shall move like the flame traverses the canopies. We shall triumph where all else would fail. - Warden Lukas, Lodge Arguments

 

[vyeh]

EDIT: Quotes! More added in as time goes by...

First up: Lukas talking about Native Embassies. Not 100% sure if it works or not but it's a start:

It works.

EDIT2: Next, Lukas speaking about Human Flexibility:

Also good. So 35 to go.

 

[Kilkakon]

Just a heads up, I have a friend coming (and sleeping) over tomorrow, so I'll be out of action for that time. I did manage to put a massive dent in recordings (Monday ones are done for three weeks) so that's a great help.

EDIT: Let's squeeze in some quotes!

Defence and Tactics:

Wake up watchboy! <noise> Evil lurks in the shadows of the night and it's up to you to spot it and light your signal when it comes. - Guildmaster Darrus, Conversation with night watchboy 13

Charmander Courage:

Your forces are indeed powerful Oblivion. You have the strength to destroy us all. But we have something that you could never have, you with your demons and your criminals. We have the courage to fight on for what's right. We will fight you to the last boy, Oblivion, and you will doubt yourself as your armies advance in the face of our inner certainty. - Guildmaster Darrus, Conversations with Oblivion

 

[vyeh]

Defence and Tactics:

OK.

Charmander Courage:

Missing comma after the fifth word:

Your forces are indeed powerful, Oblivion. You have the strength to destroy us all. But we have something that you could never have, you with your demons and your criminals. We have the courage to fight on for what's right. We will fight you to the last boy, Oblivion, and you will doubt yourself as your armies advance in the face of our inner certainty. - Guildmaster Darrus, Conversations with Oblivion

33 to go.

 

[Kilkakon]

Okay thanks.