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Lyrics for Baba Yetu (For those who want to sing/read along)

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by MSTK, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. TheLastOne36

    TheLastOne36 Deity

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    yah what? Polytheistic means worship many gods right?
     
  2. Mirc

    Mirc Not mIRC!!!

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    Yes.

    Poly ... + . theistic
    ......... = ...........
    Many . + .. Gods
     
  3. aronnax

    aronnax Let your spirit be free

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    Everytime I hear this sing I think first of the Simple chief, receiving Tribute from the nearby village, then his wife enters with his baby which grows up to lead a group of spearmen into battle taking a village, then the village grows bigger, bigger and bigger. Infrasture grows and people appear till it is a crowd, goods of all kind are sold and in the distance the palace can be seen and it zooms in to witness the cornation of a new king. Then images of meetings and battles appear. Horsemen charge through axeman as swordman control the hill. Scientific break throughs, gunpowder, wonders being built and cities growing through the eras. then at the end bit. a little boy wakes up froms his dream
     
  4. rayofash

    rayofash Chieftain

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    A literal translation of that entire section of the prayer:

    Baba Yetu uliye mbinguni,
    jina lako litukuzwe;
    ufalme wako ufike,
    utakalo lifanyike
    duniani kama mbinguni.
    Utupe leo mkate wetu wa kila siku,
    utusamehe makosa yetu,
    kama nasi tunavyowasamehe waliotukosea.
    Usitutie katika kishawishi,
    lakini utuopoe maovuni.
    Amina

    Our Father, who art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come,
    thy will be done,
    on earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day, our daily bread,
    and forgive us our trespasses
    as we forgive those who trespass against us.
    And lead us not into temptation,
    but deliver us from evil.
    Amen.

    I'm trying to find the definition of the word 'uliye'. Because in the Bible translations I've seen, the name 'Jesus' doesn't appear there. In fact I don't think any names appeared there originally.

    http://www.christusrex.org/www1/pater/JPN-gr-koine.html
    http://www.bibletexts.com/terms/lordspr.htm



    Also, I just thought this image was neat:

     
  5. darkchampion

    darkchampion Chieftain

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    After reading through this entire thread, I am a bit sad after seeing how many people respond to the meaning behind the words. I personally am not Christian but fail to see how these words can be so offensive to others. Are the views and beliefs of others that vile to your sensibilities? Such intolerance is the reason there is so much wrong in this world. No one is asking you to sing a Christian prayer and the very fact you came here is because you enjoyed the sound of the song.

    Try to accept the beliefs of others even if they contrast your own. No one is asking you to change your beliefs, so chill.
     
  6. rayofash

    rayofash Chieftain

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    I think you're the one reading too much into things :p
     
  7. Catharsis

    Catharsis catch u on the flip scythe

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    Out of interest, rayofash, what does that 'katika' word mean?
     
  8. rayofash

    rayofash Chieftain

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    It basically means 'in', 'into', or inside'. It can also mean 'within'.
     
  9. Catharsis

    Catharsis catch u on the flip scythe

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    Ah, thanks. It's also the name of a teammate of mine in one of the forum games in my sig. There must be a way to use it for blackmailing purposes...
     
  10. ornryactor

    ornryactor Chieftain

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    Hello all. I'm a vocal music education major (meaning I'll be a choir director in about a year). I was at a conference where a music seller was letting people choose 15 octavos to take for free. There was only one copy of Baba Yetu, but it caught my eye because of the Video Games Live logo on the cover. I took it and just sat down with it a day or two ago. I've since become enthralled with it and have been doing as much research as I can on it, in the hopes I can get my choir to do it this year.

    The published music differs from the Talisman A Capella recording in three places. The first two times are at the end of the two tenor solo sections. At measure 20, the music says "muovu emilele" while the recording says "milelela 'milele". The rhythm is exactly the same, but the lyrics are moderately different (and one word has been oddly truncated). A similar change at measure 67 makes a minor change to both the lyrics and rhythm, adding a sixteenth-note. The music says "muovu emilele" and the recording says "si muovu emilele". The last difference occurs throughout. At any point where it say "Baba yetu, yetu...", the second "yetu" was actually supposed to be "yesu", or 'Jesus'. Making it a second "yetu" was a change made in Stanford's recording, but it somehow made it into the published octavo.

    Every reliable opinion that I've run across agrees that the words translate properly and the meaning is intact, but that the grammar and phrases are out of order from each other.

    This was written back in May 2006, before the sheet music was released. I've looked at the music and listened to the recording a lot, but I can't find anything that looks or sounds much like "simama mwehu". The only thing I could think of would be that he misheard something in the long tenor solos. Those are quite fast, and the Talisman tenor didn't enunciate well at all. (I know that's part of the style, but it nevertheless does make it hard to figure out what he's singing without looking at the music.)

    This is a fantastic piece. I've never even played Civilization (save for a demo version of the original way back in the day) but that has no effect on the fact that this entire soundtrack is high-quality music (honestly, Goldberg variations? in a video game? Awesome!) and the original music is wonderful. I'm going to be watching Tin Works Music from here on out, and who knows- I might even give Civ IV a shot, since everyone here seems to like it so well!
     
  11. Saim

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    God is Baba Yetu awesome... I really miss Baba Yetu :( . That's the downside of BtS/Warlords. No Baba Yetu!
     
  12. TwoShedsJackson

    TwoShedsJackson Chieftain

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    You can select whichever menu screen you prefer (Civ 4, Warlords, or BtS) in the Options page. So Baba Yetu can be restored to your PC as it has been to mine :)
     
  13. Saim

    Saim King

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    OMFG that is so awesome!!!!
     
  14. Capt Buttkick

    Capt Buttkick Emperor

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    :lol: @TwoSheds.
    So, "This... what shall I call it... nickname of yours... How did you come by it?" :D
     
  15. TwoShedsJackson

    TwoShedsJackson Chieftain

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    Never mind that, ask me about my music etc. etc. :)
     
  16. Pomp

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    I think the person you're responding to may have meant polyphonic, not polytheistic.
     
  17. T_F

    T_F Reynardine the Great

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    Having listened to it many times and come across a number of transcriptions, this is the version I personally think is as close to what they sing as possible:

    (it's long so I put in spoilers, as I dislike using things like '(chorus)' and '(2x)')

    Spoiler :

    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Mbinguni yetu yetu, amina
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Kun jina lako elitukuzwe
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Mbinguni yetu yetu, amina
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Kun jina lako elitukuzwe

    Utupe leo chakula chetu
    Tunachohitaji utusamehe
    Makosa yetu, he!
    Kama nasi tunavyowasamehe
    Waliotukosea
    Usituti
    Katika majaribu lakini
    Utokoe
    Na yule
    Milele na milele!

    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Mbinguni yetu yetu, amina
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Kun jina lako elitukuzwe
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Mbinguni yetu yetu, amina
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Kun jina lako elitukuzwe

    Ufalme wako ufike utakalo
    Lifanyike duniani kama mbinguni amina

    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Mbinguni yetu yetu, amina
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Kun jina lako elitukuzwe
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Mbinguni yetu yetu, amina
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Kun jina lako elitukuzwe

    Utupe leo chakula chetu
    Tunachohitaji utusamehe
    Makosa yetu, he!
    Kama nasi tunavyowasamehe
    Waliotukosea
    Usituti
    Katika majaribu lakani
    Utokoe
    Na yule
    Si muovu emele

    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Jina lako elitukuzwe
    Baba yetu yetu uliye
    Jina lako elitukuzwe


    (and I did set my BtS menu to the original Civ4 one. Yay that option!)
     
  18. Criffer

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    I personally love this song, and i definitely support what your doing here. Keep up the good work! = )
     
  19. Insolence

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    Performed this for talent show recently.
     
  20. The Navy Seal

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    I'd like to know what Elgrillo is in English? Does anyone know?
     

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