Makedonian Hypaspistai

[Ninja2]

Which is why Hannibal defeated every Roman army he met - until, defeated by attrition, he met his equal in Scipio at Zama (who simply copied his tactics with a bigger army). And which is why Alexander would have done the same (no trickery involved BTW, just military genius: Alexander never lost a battle).

Alexander fought undisciplined hordes led by inept commanders. His greatness stems from the sheer territorial conquest, not his military brilliance. Hannibal fought Roman generals and trained legions, and met his superior at Zama. Scipio consistently won victories using varied tactics and suprises/tricks, against capable opponents, and he never lost a battle. Also see sig...

 

[Agent327]

Alexander fought undisciplined hordes led by inept commanders. His greatness stems from the sheer territorial conquest, not his military brilliance. Hannibal fought Roman generals and trained legions, and met his superior at Zama. Scipio consistently won victories using varied tactics and suprises/tricks, against capable opponents, and he never lost a battle. Also see sig...

Alexander fought all kinds of armies (Greek falanxes, Persian armies with Greek contingents, Centralasian tribal cavalry, Indian armies with elephants). Also, as concerns Hannibal, the forces at Zama weren't equal - Scipio took no chances (and refused to negotiate), with a very predictable result.

What's this with dissing Alexander? His battles were studied throughout history and the greatest generals saw him as an example. Those are the facts, plain and simple.

 

[Aranor]

I dont think anyone is actually dissing Alexander here, but to any that do think of this:

Reading some Arrian "Alexanders' March upcountry"=ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ ΑΝΑΒΑΣΙΣ, for both the voicemod, and personal enjoyment, I have only this to quote, not directed at you in anyway but to all those who throughout the time have doubted, cursed, spat upon and generally mistreated he who is the greatest general/Tactician of all times. (Hannibal very close second)

I imagine Arrian wrote it, as he himself must have been hearing ugly stuff about Alexander from whichever source and for whatever reason..

In capital, as ancient greek was written at the time,

Arrian's "ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ ΑΝΑΒΑΣΙΣ" , Book 7, Chapter 28, 1-2 and Chapter 30, 1-2"

... ΟΣΤΙΣ ΔΕ ΚΑΚΙΖΕΙ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΝ
... ΟΥΤΩ ΔΗ ΕΚΛΟΓΙΖΕΣΘΩ ΟΣΤΙΣ ΤΕ ΩΝ ΑΥΤΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΟΠΟΙΑΙ ΤΥΧΗΙ ΚΕΧΡΗΜΕΝΟΣ ΟΝΤΙΝΑ ΓΕΝΟΜΕΝΟΝ ΕΚΕΙΝΟΝ...
... ΣΜΙΚΡΟΤΕΡΟΣ ΤΕ ΩΝ ΑΥΤΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΕΠΙ ΣΜΙΚΡΟΙΣ ΠΟΝΟΥΜΕΝΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΟΥΔΕ ΤΑΥΤΑ ΕΝ ΚΟΣΜΩΙ ΤΙΘΕΜΕΝΟΣ.

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... Αnd to whoever disapproves/accuses Alexander
... let him ponder who he is (the one who disapproves/accuses), what he has achieved so far in his life at and compare this to how accomplished Alexanders' (life was)...
... while he himself is insignificant, bent on insignificant things, unable to complete even those.

I think will make this my stock answer to those trying to diminish ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ and his legacy, for whichever ugly/fatal flaws his character had, his accomplishments and pure wonder, are nothing but awe inspiring.

What Arrianos wrote is nothing but the truth, millenia ago, and also now. It will also be truth, millenia from now, written in the same letters you see in the first quote, but translated in a different language we can't even imagine, assuming mankind exists then.

THAT is Megas Alexandros' power.

:On Topic: Thanks again Ekmek, I'm not sure about subdividing polygons, I'm just playing in blender and seeing what the results are! Any new tricks that I might learn I think I will have to wait until your next tut as the visual aids help me in blender one hell of alot more than written instructions!

 

[Aranor]

For an interesting discussion reguarding the Roman Maniples and the Hellenic Phalanx I recommend reading this. There were some interesting posts both for and against each side.

 

[Agent327]

Thx for the Arrian quote! (I'd read it in a biography of the Great one, but I didn't have it at the ready. It was a similar thought that, reportedly, made Caesar weep, seeing a buste of Alexander, considering that he, at the age of forty, hadn't achieved anything yet - but he made good on that.)

 

[Aranor]

Yeah its a great quote. I got it from one of the historians from EB who keeps this particular quote in his Sig.

 

[Ninja2]

What's this with dissing Alexander? His battles were studied throughout history and the greatest generals saw him as an example. Those are the facts, plain and simple.

My post was actually not aimed at dissing Alexander, although I can see why you read it as such. My point was that Scipio's victory over Hannibal was not as simple as you made out. The battle at Zama did indeed almost become a foregone conclusion (and imagine calling a battle against a commander, who for over 15 years had terrorized Rome, the most feared adversary ever for the legions, a foregone conclusion), but only because the battle was fought entirely on Scipio's conditions, as chosen by him. Scipio's campaign in Africa, and his entire handling of the war with Carthage was indeed a brilliant and nearly flawless accomplishment.


EDIT: Sorry, that's a great looking unit!!!

 

[Aranor]

EDIT: Sorry, that's a great looking unit!!!

No Worries! Thanks for the compliments ( finally)

 

[ComradeVlad]

Omg...These guys are beast. I applaud to you Aranor, excellent job I think these spearmen should have a strength of 6 with 50% against melee, kinda like the Bts phalanx, but stronger.

 

[Aranor]

Thanks, they are definately one of my favorite units that I have created ever.