Making a Gibraltar not possible?

[playshogi]

From one of the previews it says: "If you can isolate or surround a foreign city, it basically becomes a bubble in your territory. The leader of that faction may feel pressure to trade the city to you. If not, the city has a good chance of rioting because it wants to join your faction."

However, I don't see Gibraltar rioting to join Spain.
There's also a Russian city (Kaliningrad) surrounded by other countries and hundreds of miles from Russia, and it has no "happiness" problems.
Hopefully, it will be possible to control a beachhead like that.

 

[general_kill]

are u challenging the realism of this game? take it up with mutant ghandi!

 

[Nobody]

One of my favorite ways to play Civ3, is to have a small group of high production, culture citys, and a lots of small colony citys around the world to seize different resources.

 

[rbis4rbb]

Well, if the city has high enough culture and such then it wont be traded to you

 

[Colonel]

The point being also is you dont see Gibalter or others of the sort, producing alot.

 

[PriestOfDiscord]

Both those areas have access to the sea and therefore a link back to their mother nations. And if someone tried to sever that link with a blockade, then yes, that area would begin to feel pressure. Well, before the UK or Russia crushed whoever it was stupid enough to blockade the Gibraltar or Kaliningrad enclaves.

Generally, I agree with the new design idea. If you don't have regular contact with your lands (via straight land connection or over friendly and open seas/land/air routes) then how can you expect to run them?

 

[KrikkitTwo]

It would also be good if the expanded the 'Colonies' idea to include simple Military base type things since a City in Civ is more of a region with a significant population +productive capacity... Gibralter really is just an Outpost/military Base.. hopefully we'll have more of that. (possibly as a way of claiming territory Without having culture there)

 

[bkwrm79]

It would also be good if the expanded the 'Colonies' idea to include simple Military base type things since a City in Civ is more of a region with a significant population +productive capacity... Gibralter really is just an Outpost/military Base.. hopefully we'll have more of that. (possibly as a way of claiming territory Without having culture there)

That could be cool. Especially if they overcome the enormous flaw of allowing forts and airbases but not naval bases!

 

[Illini Rule]

The romans engulfed alot of barbarian tribes. It happend all the time in early history. So it should stay. I was glad to see that added to the game

 

[Andrew_Jay]

That would be nice, able to set up a little square that ships can sail into. One of the huge flaws with colonies too in Civ III, they only worked with land routes, they weren't "harbours".

 

[josephstalin]

There's also a Russian city (Kaliningrad) surrounded by other countries and hundreds of miles from Russia, and it has no "happiness" problems.

Kaliningrad has hapiness problems - transportation to Russia (vacation, etc.). Trust me.

 

[I am the Future]

It is a nice idea and would hopefully stop things like the "east russia scenario" from happening as much