Eddiit
King of Nothing
Just refreshing my request for you to make a slightly smaller version of this otherwise awesome map.
[MAP] [Map] My huge 19 civ map for v.25 +
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If you move the Lichiurp to the opposite side of the Balsaraph, it would be impossible for me to rescue them (unless I build a city behind my Eastern frontier and gift it to them). 
In my experience, the Balsaraph are the first to get the Bronze Weapons promotion on their units, the first to get to Warfare, and the first to build Swordsmen. They even beat the Khazad (me) ffs! If you want to gove the Lichiurp a chance, maybe you could remove the Cooper resource, or make it a little harder to get.
But would that be unfair to the Balsaraph, who still have to deal with me?
Maybe the Balsaraph can be pushed back a bit to give the Lichiurp more room to expand before they meet the Balsaraph border. And the land in the Lichiurp back yard (the southern stretch of land) could maybe be made a bit more productive.
In my experience, the Balsaraph are the first to get the Bronze Weapons promotion on their units, the first to get to Warfare, and the first to build Swordsmen. They even beat the Khazad (me) ffs! If you want to gove the Lichiurp a chance, maybe you could remove the Cooper resource, or make it a little harder to get.
But would that be unfair to the Balsaraph, who still have to deal with me?
Maybe the Balsaraph can be pushed back a bit to give the Lichiurp more room to expand before they meet the Balsaraph border. And the land in the Lichiurp back yard (the southern stretch of land) could maybe be made a bit more productive.
I'm currently working on it
How can I convert Civ4 maps to Shadow? Notepad keeps them as civ4worldbuildersave, but do they work with Shadow if I just copy the relevant lines there?
Nikis-Knight
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I've forgotten exactly; best bet would be to open the Civ 4 version and a current version of this map for shadow at once, and compare the game set up parts (ie, everything until the map-tile information) line by line. I can do it if you like. You need to make sure you use the right set of start locations, of course, and the file name has to be changed to
CivBeyondSwordWBSave
CivBeyondSwordWBSave
Eddiit
King of Nothing
How goes the conversion to a smaller map?
I tried using Advanced start with your map and it didn't work for me. Am I doing something wrong?
What civ are you playing? I've usually seen the Elohim adopt Runes, especially when I play Khazad.
Nikis-Knight
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I don't know, I haven't tested it but I don't see why it wouldn't. What happened, did it crash?
(I will make sure the map stays playable in new versions, but I probably won't do any other tinkering until after Ice phase.)
Well I started up the game by going to custom scenario and clicked the Advanced Start option on (although unable to change the amount of start points). When I fire up the game it just starts as normal with no Advanced Start.
No crash though.
thewyrm
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Several, I have played as the Balseraphs, the Malakim, the Calabim, the Lanun, the Grigori, the Kuriotates, and the Sheim. In about 2/3 of my games the Ashen Veil has been the first religion to spread to the Elohim and they adopt it immediately. That just seems strange to me. I wish it was impossible for Good AI's to adopt AV and for Evil AI's to adopt Order without it being forced upon them via peace treaty.
Farmer Bobathan
Sanity is for the weak
This happens to me whenever I try to use advanced start on a premade map, I don't think advanced start works with them.
I'm soo excited - this is my first response to a post.
I don't normally play as the Sheaim - but last night I was feeling nasty - researched Ashen Veil as soon as possible, got a great prophet right away, built the Sheaim temple in the holy city - and boom, evryone around me started getting Ashen Veil in their cities with no religion - most converted to Ashen Veil, but switched once other religions started coming into their lands.
The Elohim seem to adopt any religion they can - but will switch if a better one comes along. In my game they went to Runes within 10 turns.
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Congrats on your post!
I recall one game I was fighting for my life against both the Svartlfar and Calabim as the Malakim. (I think the most fun aspect of this map). The Elohim were my brothers in arms against the onslaught of Evil. While they never directly aided my war effort, they provided me with all sorts of tech and resources to help fight against evil. Until all of a sudden Einion Logos decides worshipping demons is the way to go. Sorry staunch ally, you are on your own. Stop warring with our brothers of the faith! Grrrrrr. Like a hundred years later I was able to talk him into adopting Order, but I never trusted him again.
Luckily in that particular game Arendel came to my aid and together we vassalised Faeryl and I was able to win my war with the Vampires once it became a single front war. Forming a permanent alliance with the Ljosalfar in the process. My favorite game of FFH so far. I actually sat back with a real sense of accomplishment when I finally razed the AV holy city and turned the tide for the forces of good.
I recall one game I was fighting for my life against both the Svartlfar and Calabim as the Malakim. (I think the most fun aspect of this map). The Elohim were my brothers in arms against the onslaught of Evil. While they never directly aided my war effort, they provided me with all sorts of tech and resources to help fight against evil. Until all of a sudden Einion Logos decides worshipping demons is the way to go. Sorry staunch ally, you are on your own. Stop warring with our brothers of the faith! Grrrrrr. Like a hundred years later I was able to talk him into adopting Order, but I never trusted him again.
Luckily in that particular game Arendel came to my aid and together we vassalised Faeryl and I was able to win my war with the Vampires once it became a single front war. Forming a permanent alliance with the Ljosalfar in the process. My favorite game of FFH so far. I actually sat back with a real sense of accomplishment when I finally razed the AV holy city and turned the tide for the forces of good.
Nikis-Knight
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awesome story 
thewyrm
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Surely you could just use the custom scenario option?
From what I remember, you can't actually change your leader even if you do open it up as a custom scenario.
What you can do though is open the scenario file in notepad, scroll down, and change it from Sabathiel to Capria.
On that note, do you know how to make a scenario such that it lets you choose from more than one leader per civ?
What you can do though is open the scenario file in notepad, scroll down, and change it from Sabathiel to Capria.
On that note, do you know how to make a scenario such that it lets you choose from more than one leader per civ?
Nikis-Knight
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Sadly, no. I'm no expert, but I don't think it's possible.
yup. I'd Do it for you, but I don't see the point, since I think version .31 will break it. (Need to put in the new Barbematos.)
Grunthex
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You know, if I was Barbie Tomatoes, I'd be ticked. There's about 2 dozen versions of his name out there, and no one remembers which one is real!