mb2-a space oddity

[a space oddity]

Well done vbraun.

Guys, what d'ya think about changing govs. We are religious and we could actually save turns on the Wonder build and grow a bit better. India will be dealt with rather soonish now so no need to worry too much about WW.
And Egypt has Education so one civ more and the GL expires. We need cash to keep buying and selling. The rate this game is going we're going to be mega rich by the time we get to the Modern Age.

 

[Hooray]

Good work, vbraun!

BTW, are we just purging the Indians from our continent, or are we going to hunt them down to every little island and eliminate them?
Back in my turn, I tried to leave some Galleys down there just in case we wanted to invade their islands.

Oh yes, Babylon must go. I'm sure they're pilfering an oil from us up there in that Tundra.

 

[TedJackson]

@Space
Oops, Despotism in 650AD. Sounds like a long anarchy coming soon

The major problem with revolting now is that Sun Tzu is 13 turns away in Damascus

@all
I vote for keeping the Indians as "pets" on their islands. We can always change our minds later.


regards

Ted

 

[a space oddity]

As I said, we could actually *save* turns by switching now, as we have no despotism penalties on worked tiles... and it'll be only 1 turn thanx to us being religious.

 

[TedJackson]

Originally posted by a space oddity
As I said, we could actually *save* turns by switching now, as we have no despotism penalties on worked tiles... and it'll be only 1 turn thanx to us being religious.

You're right. Of course


Ted

 

[mad-bax]

Brewster you're UP.
Sorry but I haven't time to comment ATM. I'll try to get back a bit later.

 

[Brewster]

I got it.

Sorry it is taking me so long to get back to you. There has been a death in my family and I am having some trouble finding the time to sit at the computer. I will download the dave and get to it this evening.

 

[andvruss]

From the peanut gallery: looks good. You might want to leave a super power or 2 so you can steal from them techs.

 

[TedJackson]

Sorry to hear about your loss Brewster.


regards

Ted

 

[Brewster]

Thanks TJ.

I've gotten through five turns so far and am planning on finishing things up later today.

Highlights: India is down to one city (island in the south). We are still in despotism (just a few turns to go until Sun Tzu's is finished). Only Egypt has more techs than we do (Astronomy). We are rolling in gold and have many troops that need upgrading. We have all 8 luxuries (2 imported) and are trading many of our surplus resources. Most of the countries are currently at war or have been at war recently. Things are looking mighty good.

 

[TedJackson]

Sounds like excellent progress Brewster


regards

Ted

 

[Brewster]

Preturn
We have HEAPS of gold and are rapidly expanding our empire. Things are looking great! I plan on finishing off the pesky Indians and regrouping our forces for our next assault (on the Babs?).
IT – Baghdad: horse -> horse. Kufah: pike -> aqueduct. Khurasan: market -> horse. Anjar: horse -> market. Fustat: pike -> galley. Mansura: pike -> courthouse.

T1) 660 ad
Move horse and sword to Calcutta (attack next turn). Attack with injured units and take Calcutta with a redlined horse (at the expense of one horse). We have removed the Indians from our island. I decide to press for peace and get Dacca, Indus, 17g and a WM in return (Gandhi got screwed). I’m thinking about removing the Babylon presence from our lands (will move horses into position then declare war on the heathens).
IT – Mongols declare war on the Vikings. Mecca: pike -> pike. Persians are building Sun Tzu’s.

T2) 670 ad
Not much going on. Sending some units to our newest island dwellings off the coast (former Indian cities).
IT – Medina: horse -> pike. Najran: galley -> pike. Aden: pike -> aqueduct.

T3) 680 ad
Clearing some of the copious amount of jungle in our newly acquired lands. Upgrade 28 spearmen to pikemen for 560g. Continue gathering units around the Bab’s holdings on our continent. Trade iron to the Iroquois for silks, 9g and WM. Trade wines to Greece for WM, 124g and 2gpt. Trade wines to Egypt for WM, 177g, and 5gpt. Trade WM around for maps and 49g.
IT – Baghdad: horse -> pike. Khurasan: horse -> pike. Fustat: galley -> harbor. Add a dome to our palace.

T4) 690 ad
Still bringing troops up from the south to take care of those evil Babs. Change Subar to Barracks. Broke the 10000 gold mark! I notice both Egypt and Babylon have Education and Invention. It seems our Great Library will become obsolete next turn. Drop lux to 0% to make some money (+174gpt now).
IT - We learn Invention and Education (no more free techs for us). Mecca: pike -> horse. Mosul: horse -> courthouse. Aztecs are building Sun Tzu’s. Egypt is building Coper’s Observatory.

T5) 700 ad
Egypt has Astronomy for dyes and 2403g (monopoly price – I decide to wait). We should consider moving the Palace in the near future as most of our new holdings are suffering from rampant corruption. Workers working.
IT – Medina: pike -> Leo’s. Bursa: temple -> worker. Bengal: temple -> pike. Ganges: temple -> pike. Balkh: pike -> pike. New Delhi: temple -> pike. Egypt is building Leo’s.

T6) 710 ad
Rally troops around Izibia. Workers working. Nothing really worth noting here. Trade Edu, wines, and gems to Vikings for spices, WM, and 8g.
IT – Baghdad: pike -> horse. Najran: pike -> pike. Khurasan: pike -> horse. Hyderabad: temple -> pike. Vikings are building Leo’s.

T7) 720 ad
Troops moving and workers working. Nothing else of interest.
IT – Mecca: horse -> pike. Istanbul: pike -> worker. Fez: pike -> pike.

T8) 730 ad
Same as the last two turns.
IT – Khrasan: horse -> pike. Yamama: courthouse -> aqueduct. Pithorn: temple -> pike.

T9) 740 ad
Bringing irrigation to much needed areas. Decide to get out of Despotism and make the switch to Republic.
IT – ANARCHY. Koreans and Vikings sign a peace treaty. We are now a Republic. Aztecs are building Leo’s.

T10) 750 ad
Bring lux tax up to 10% to prevent future riots. Sun Tzu’s due in 4 turns. Troops are in position for multiple strikes on the two Bab towns on our continent. I would hold off on the invasion until we get enough troops in place on the Greek isle to remove those Bab cities too.


here is the save

 

[a space oddity]

Got it. I'll play tonight (in about 3 hours) so comments, requests or orders should be posted before then.

 

[TedJackson]

Looking good Brewster

@Space
No special requests from me except maybe starting a palace in Bursa (just in case we never get a Great Leader


regards

Ted

 

[a space oddity]

@Ted: That's what I was thinking also. How about Antalya? It's in the middle of the jungle (but that is likely to hide good land), on the river and has some hills and Iron, so *if* some coal would pop up.... we really would be in bonus!

edit: ... and it has 15 shields in the bin where Bursa has only 3.

 

[a space oddity]

I've played half my turns and it's discussion time. Here's what happened:

pre-turn:
I move a couple of troops near the galley to be ferried to the Greek Island.
MM Medina to get Leo's quicker, it still at size 8, we need to boost it a bit using worker merges.
Change Indus to worker, Punjab to settler.
Upgrade sword to Med Inf.
Cash-hurry Courthouses (180g).
Modify some pikes to Med Inf, we need offensive power Horse against Pike has the wrong odds.

IT
Baghdad Horse -> Horse
Basra Courthouse -> Horse
Fustat Harbor -> Horse
Muscat Court -> Aqueduct
Mansura Court -> Temple (has no rax, Sun Tzu in 4 turns...)
Aleppo Court -> Horse
Persians start Sistine and Leo's.

760AD - turn 1
Upgrade Swords.
Sign an ROP with Greece for easier Galley movement, hope this is not . He gives us his WM and 2g for it (all he has).
Hurry Aqueduct in Aden for 200 gold.

IT
Mecca Med Inf -> Med Inf
Kufah Aqueduct -> Med Inf
Aden Aqueduct -> Med Inf
Shiraz Pike -> Worker
Indus Worker -> Temple
Konjah Spear -> worker
Our Palace gets even more impressive.
Babs start Leo

770AD - turn 2
Sell Dyes to Vikings for their WM, 28 gold and 2gpt.
Switch Merv to Rax (Sun Tzu will have no effect here.) at a loss of 5 shields.

IT
Egypt wants to talk: she wants money for her WM .
Damascus Art of War -> Market

Najran Med Inf -> Worker (stuck at 12)
Iznik Horse -> Worker
Merv Rax -> Harbor
Adena riots and gets a taxman (hey, they asked for it..)
Persia, Iroqois, Mongols, Greeks and Korea start Sistine's
Aztec, Iroquois, Greeks, Vikings, Egypt and Babs start Leo

780AD - turn 3
Hurry Aqueduct in Yamama

IT
Najran Worker -> Med Inf
Khurasan Med Inf -> Med Inf
Anjar Market -> Harbor
Fustat Med Inf -> Cathedral
Yamama 'duct -> Med Inf
Bukhara Court - Horse

790AD - turn 4
Printing Press and Gunpowder are out there!
I buy Gunpowder from Greece for Gems, Dyes, WM and 650g, turning him Polite
Both Scandinavia and Aztec have PP but not Gunpowder. After some thought I decide not to trade. We might get PP from Babs at some stage .
We have 2 sources of Saltpeter connected and 1 unconnected on our continent.
I join 4 workers in Medina, Leo's now due in 22 turns.
Hurry harbor in Merw, next turn we can upgrade our troops there.

IT
The Iroqs wanna talk:
MA against the Mongols? No! Exchange TMs instead.
Mecca Med Inf -> Med Inf
Baghdad Med Inf -> Horse
Basra Horse -> Horse
Uskudar Pike -> Worker
Mansura Temple -> Horse
Merw Harbor -> Horse
Adana Spear -> Settler
Taif Pike -> Worker

800AD - turn 5
We're just about ready for a war declaration. I traded TMs and they have *no* saltpeter!
And chivalry is out there [dance], we can get it from the Aztecs for Gems and Wines and get some extra cash! Do we have a deal, why YES! Ha ha. He's still annoyed though.

How about a Golden Age, guys? If we upgrade some Horsemen that's gonna be a piece of cake! But do we want it now, or save it for later?

 

[TedJackson]

Nice going there Space

I seem to remember suggesting triggering our GA just as we went to war with Babylon or Greece. As nothing has happened to change my mind... I say go for it.


regards

Ted

 

[Brewster]

I see no reason to avoid a GA at this time in the game. With some prime wonders comming up, I too say go for it! It will help us put some buildings in our new cities too.

 

[mad-bax]

I think this is the ideal time for our GA.
Nice turns Space.

Hmmm 10000g and Christmas just around the corner...

 

[a space oddity]

Upgrading part of our Horse assets, the rest will have to wait till after Leo.
Hurry Harbor in Buto (forgot we had a small stake on that continent too )

IT
Delhi Temple -> Worker
Kufah Med Inf -> Ansar
Jaipur Temple -> Worker
Buto Harbor -> Rax
Aydab Med Inf -> Aqueduct

810AD - turn 6
It goes down, I declare war on Babylon.

Attack Nimrud:
Ansar vs Spear, Ansar redlines without doing any damage
Second Ansar wins and... we start our Golden Age!
Leo's now due in 13, making +430gpt on (10.0.0).
Nimrud falls -> Temple

Ansar kills Bowman near Izibia, loses 1hp does not upgrade
Attack Izibia:
vet Ansar vs reg Pike, loses 2hp but wins.
vet Ansar vs reg Spear, is readlined and retreats. Spear has 2 hp left.
vet Ansar vs Spear, spear is redlined but kills our Ansar
vet Ansar vs Spear, loses 1 hp but takes Izibia.
Izibia -> Worker

On to the Greek island:
Reg Ansar vs reg Bowman near Kish, Ansar redlines, does not upgrade, retreats.
vet Ansar vs 2hp Bowman, Bowman is killed.

IT
Damascus riots, oops, gets a taxman, market due in 2.
Bursa Worker -> Worker
Iznik Worker -> Aqueduct
Fez Temple -> Courthouse
New Delhi worker -> worker

820AD - turn 7
Tell Gandhi to remove his spear from our lands, he obliges (I wonder why? ).
Drop troops for pillaging duty on the Bab mainland.
Kish is gained by killing 2 spears, no upgrades.
Kish -> Worker

IT
Najran Med Inf -> Ansar
Khurasan Ansar -> Ansar
Fustat Cathedral -> Ansar
Aden Ansar -> Ansar
Ganges Worker -> Aqueduct
Taif Worker -> Courthouse
Korea start Leo's

830AD - turn 8
reg Ansar vs archer near Shuruppac, Ansar kill it an is now veteran.

Attack Larsa:
vet Ansar vs vet spear, Ansar wins at the cost of 1hp
vet Ansar vs reg spear, Ansar redlines and retreats, spear has 2hp left.

IT
Bab Archer attacks spear and dies.
Istanbul worker -> worker
Damascus market -> Sistines (could be pre-build)
Baghdad Ansar -> Ansar
Yamama Ansar -> Harbor
Shiraz worker -> worker
Pune riots, gets taxman
Mosul Court -> Market

840AD - turn 9
Attack Larsa:
Vet Med Inf vs reg spear, our man dies without causing any damage
Vet (3hp) Ansar vs reg spear, Ansar is relined but gains Larsa -> harbor.
The continent is ours alone!

Attack Sippar:
Vet Ansar vs reg spear, wins losing 1 hp
Elite Horse vs reg spear, redlines the spear and ... dies .
Vet Ansar vs redlined spear, takes Sippar -> worker

Attack Shuruppak:
Vet Ansar vs reg spear, Ansar wins losing 2hp
vet Ansar vs reg spear, Ansar loses 1hp and takes Shuruppak -> Temple

Move more troops on our Galleys

IT
Mecca Ansar -> Ansar
Madras Temple -> worker
Kufah Ansar -> Court
Basra Ansar -> Ansar
Anjar Harbor -> Settler
Muscat Aqueduct -> Ansar
Mansura Ansar -> Cathedral

850AD - turn 10
Attack Akkad:
Vet Ansar vs reg spear, Ansar wins at the cost of 2 hp.
Vet Ansar vs reg spear, spear redlines and kills our Ansar, the other units can't move yet.

Kill 2 Bowmen near Ur, both Ansars have 2hp left.
Move a lot of other units, Ur can be attacked next turn.
Akkad has only 1 reg spear left.

There are precious little Elite troops, the one battle involving 1 was lost . Good luck to the next player.

>>>> Go, Ansars, go! <<<<

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