mb2-a space oddity

Space: You are UP. If you want to get started on GOTM then I'll swap with you if you like. It's been ages since I played a set in this game.

It's completely up to you though. I can wait. :)
 
Thanks for the offer, I might take you up on that. I needed all evening for MB1 (really enjoyed it and took it easy :) ) So no GOTM for me tonight. I realize you maybe wanted to play tonight, so it's fine with me either way. Up to you, SG master sir. :p
 
It's your turn Space. You take it and I'll play after you. I was just worried you might be Civved out. Fat chance ;)
 
Goals for this set of turns:
Keep a check on WW.
Try to stimulate peace in the world, which should result in faster research...
(Picture Space trying to reset the warmongering/builder switch... it seems stuck! ;) )

Pre-turn:
Move slider up to (7.0.3) which deals with most unhappiness. Note to delf: make roading the spices a priority. Load 1 stack of Cavs and an Inf in a number of galleons.
Press return.

IT:
Delhi Cathedral -> Inf
Ur Stock -> Factory
Baghdad Inf -> Inf
Anatalya Heroic Epic -> Mil Acad
MB2-HeroicEpic.JPG

Hyderabad Stock -> Factory
Sana'a Inf -> Cav
Pune Inf -> Inf
Mosul Uni(???) -> Inf
New Baghdad Market -> Court

1705AD - turn 1:
Egypt, Greece, Persia, Korea and the Aztec all have Combustion. :) Now who shall I buy it from?

Greece will be the lucky one. They are not at war currently, so the funds will not go into soldiers

but scientists.
They offer it for Dyes, WM and 2390g. I want to pay gpt though so I make that into Dyes, WM, 118gpt.
Upgrade a number of Galleons to Transports.
Move a number of workers to Scandinavia

IT:
Viks attack with 2 cavs, they promote 1 Inf (3hp left) and manage kill the other. :(
Babylon Bank -> Hospital
Edrine Stock -> court
Nineveh Uni(???) -> Art
Najran Inf -> Inf
Calcutta Temple -> Cathedral
Ellipi Hospital -> Cathedral
Bursa Inf -> Inf
Kuhfa Inf -> Inf
Bukhara Police -> Stock
Ganges Court -> Hospital
New Medina riots, gets 3 entertainers

1710AD - turn 2:
Elite Cav kills Vik cav.
Disconnect 2 Vik Spices.
Move troops into position to take Farsund.

IT:
The Aztec take two of the three Korean cities on the former Bab island.
Vik move a cav into shooting distance. :smoke:
Baghdad Inf -> Inf
Basra Inf -> Art
Samarra Bank -> Hospital
Aleppo Factory -> Stock
Konya Factory -> Stock
Sana'a Cav -> Cav
Adana Stock -> Factory
Pune Inf -> Inf

1715AD - turn 3:
Kill the Vik Cav near Vadso.

Battle for Farsund:
Destroy the radar tower by killing the protecting Vik Cav.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, Cav redlines and retreats without doing any damage.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, Cav redlines and retreats, reg has 2 hp left.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, Cav dies, reg has 2hp left.
Vet Cav vs conscript Rifle, Cav dies promoting the conscript. :(

Ok, decide to wait for the Arties first, don't want to risk to many troops. Enough WW as it is.

Hurry Temple in Alesund.

IT:
Vik kill 1 of our Cavs and moves a couple near Vadso.
The Mongols and Aztec ally against Viks.
The Aztec suddenly move in with a number of Ironclads.

Delhi Inf -> Stock
Kufah Inf -> Inf
Uskudar Cathedral -> Police
Adem Colosseum -> Art
Uruk Factory -> Stock
Mansura Factory -> Inf
Kolhapur Factory -> Harbor
Alesund Temple -> Rax
Mosul Inf -> Inf

1720AD - turn 4:
Sell Wines to the Aztec for WM and 464g. This will hopefully stop them from doing anything foolish..
Kill Vik Ironclad and Galleon.
Kill 4 Vik Cavs at the cost of 1.

IT:
Iroqs and Viks make peace.
Viks attacks with 5 cavs, 1 dies, 4 are redlined, they manage to kill an Inf. :(
Vik Ironclad suicides on ours.
Greeks and Aztec ally against Korea. Damn they were at peace with everyone and they will use our money to fight.
Persia destroyes Nippur with an immortal.
Mecca Inf -> Art
Baghdad Inf -> Inf
Nineveh Art -> Art
Majran Inf -> Inf
Bursa Inf -> Inf
Anatalya Mil Academy -> Army
MB2-MilAcad.JPG

Lagash Lib -> Hospital
Fez Hospital -> Factory
Sana'a Cav -> Cav
Dacca Temple -> Worker
Pune Inf -> Inf
New Delhi Cathedral -> Factory
 
1725AD - turn 5:
Egypt, Greece, Persia, and the Aztec all have Massproduction. :) Buy Mass Production from Persia for Gems, Wines, WM and 2050g.
Sell Mass Production to Korea for WM, 124gpt and 35 g.
4 Vik Cavs killed, 1 vet Cav promotes.

Battle for Farsund revisited:
Arties redline the defenders, city is size 3 now.
Elite Cav vs redlined vet Rifle, Cav dies. :(
Vet Cav vs redlined vet Rifle, wins unharmed.
Vet Cav vs redlined reg Rifle, wins and promotes!
Vet Cav vs redlined reg Rifle, wins and takes the city.

Vikings have only 12 cavs left.

IT:
1 Vik Cav attacks Farsund, hurts an Inf and retreats.
Kufah Inf -> Inf
Basra Art -> Art
Shihr Hospital -> Factory
Pithom Court -> Hospital
New Mecca Stock -> Harbor

1730AD - turn 6:
Sink a Viking Ironclad, lose an Ironclad against a Galleon.
Elite Cav vs redlined vet Cav, wins, 4hp left.
Move troops into position to take Tromso.
Move slider back to (8.0.2).

IT:
Everybody wants to renew the embargo against the Viks, execpt for the Iroqs and the Koreans. These are straight deals now.
4 cavs attack farsund, promoting a Inf to Elite. 1 cav captures a slave.

Mecca Arty -> Commercial Dock
Baghdad Inf -> Inf
Aden Art -> Art
Mansura Inf -> Inf
Jaipur Ironclad -> Hospital
Bengal Inf -> Art
Sana'a Cav -> cav
Pune Inf -> Inf
Mosul Inf -> Art
Hama Cathedral -> Hospital

1735AD - turn 7:
Trade Maps around just to keep in touch, no new techs available.
Sink Vik redlined Galleon, which they didn't move. :smoke:

Battle for Tromso:
Bombard it to size 2, redlined defenders.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, cav dies, promoting the defender.
Vet Cav vs vet Rifle 2hp, cav redlines but wins.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, cav wins unscratched taking Tromso.

Rush Temple in Farsund.

IT:
3 Vik Cavs die, trying to retake tromso, promoting 1 inf.
Nineveh Art -> Art
Najran Inf -> Inf
Dacca Worker -> 'duct
Farsund Temple -> Harbor

1740AD - turn 8:
Move *some* troops (is grown to be a nice little stack :) ) into position to attack Karasjok.

IT:
2 Vik Cavs attack Tromso and die, redlining the elite Inf, phew.
Baghdad Inf -> Inf
Bursa Inf -> Cav
Kufah Inf -> inf
??? Art -> Art
New round of WW kicks in.
Konya Stock -> Comm Dock
Bengal Art -> Art
Sana'a Cav -> Cav
Pune Inf -> Inf

1745AD - turn 9:
Move slider to (7.0.3).
Amphibious war is around, I don't buy it.
Hurry Temple in Tromso.

IT:
3 Vik Cavs attack Tromso, kill 1 Inf, all redlined.
Viks and Babs sign peace treaty.
Koreans want an allience against the Babs, I decline.
Mansura Inf -> Inf
Anatalya Army -> Army
Tromso Temple -> Rax
Mosul Art -> Art
Izibia Police -> Hospital
Nimrud Bank -> Cav

1750AD - turn 10:
Kill the 3 Vik Cavs, 1 Elite victory, 1 promotion to Elite.

Battle for Karasjok:
Bombard to size 5.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, Cav redlines and retreats without doing damage.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, Cav redlines and retreats without doing damage.
Vet Cav vs reg Rifle, wins but redlines.
Vet Cav vs 3hp vet Rifle, wins 3hp left.
Vet Cav vs 1hp vet Inf, wins and takes the city.

Take out Radar tower with the Cav Army.

That ends the ten turns.

My suggestion for the next player would be: take Aarhus and then sign peace as they are upgrading their Rifles to Infs now.
WW is controllable as long as we keep winning. The Inf army should defend the newly taken cities as long as Ragnar can build new Cavs. This will take down the 1-Inf-each-2-turns loses and we should be ok. The Science spedd is statisfactory now. We are rich enough to bey it.and they are kind enough to sell it amongst themselfs, so that it's cheaper for us and lets us choose who to buy it from.

Who will sign peace when?
 
Some serious footslogging there Space :thumbsup:


Ted
 
Yep,

it was a compliment :)

BTW mad-bax has posted an 'Out of Pocket' message. Have you e-mailed the save to him?


Ted
 
I don't leave 'till 2pm. So I have the save. Unfortunately I may not be able to post the result until Wednesday evening. Hope you don't mind, but I really want to take my turns in this game. I feel as if I haven't contributed to it for a very long time.

I can't open the save to check that it works though.
 
Wednesday (or Thursday) will be fine by me MB.


Ted
 
1750AD: Pre-turn
Well, I've been away from this game a long time, and I'm not sure why we are at war with the vikings. Since we have no agreements that tie us into a war I take peace.

IBT:
Greece and Egypt sign MPP
We get kicked out of Scandinavia.
Greece declares war on vikings
Persia and Babylon sign MPP
Aztechs want ROP and want to pay for the privelidge - OK
Korea and Persia sign peace treaty

1752AD: Just trying to find out whats going on. Guess I might do a few worker merges soon.

IBT:
Mongols want embargo against vikings. No I want to give them stuff.

1754AD: Started short rushing stuff.

1756AD: Nothing happened.
Bought Motorised Transportation from Persia for Incense salt and 80gpt. Over the top but I wanted to give them money.

IBT:
Iroquois and Egypt sign MA against Vikings
Renew silks deal with Iroquois for Iron and furs

1758AD:
Irrigated some mined tiles for worker merges

IBT:
Korea and Babylon sign peace treaty.

1760AD: Aztechs don't have coal. So I trade Amphibious war for gems + coal + 50gpt. Again just to keep them solvent.

1762AD:
Nothing happened.

IBT:
Scandinavia and Persia sign peace treaty.

1764AD:
Worker merges and stuff. Not a lot else.
Gift Dyes and incense to Korea.

IBT:
Korea and Greece sign peace treaty
Greeks want ROP. Sure.
We complete the Pentagon.

1766AD:
Give spices and coal to Persia (For 500g)
Since we now have 40 000 gold and we can't spend it I start cash rushing every improvement I can imagine. When I finish we have a mere 25 000 gold left :eek:

IBT:
Greece and Scandinavia sign peace treaty
vikings want embargo against Mongols. No thanks.
Greece declare war on vikings :confused:

1768AD:
Wines and Spices to Egypt for 1200g. They are nearly as rich as us.

IBT:
Iroquois want embargo against vikings. No
Persia and Aztechs sign MPP
Persia and Astechs sign Ma against Korea :(
Persia wants ROP. Sure

1770AD:
No Change.
Gift wines, furs and gems to Korea.

EOT

I'm sorry this was late. Unavoidably detained playing GOTM24 I'm afraid. And sorry there are no pictures, but there isn't really anything to show.

We have the pentagon and the capital is building another army. There is an empty army in the capital too.
Since we have over 30000g and are making 2800gpt we could perhaps afford to give more to the AI. I thought about it but decided that it would be best to discuss it first.

Here is the (albeit late) <<save>>.

Ted: As you already know.... you are UP :)
 
MB stopping war :eek:, now I've seen it all. :D
Somehow the Viks seem constantly at war. Why, who knows, they seem to have a decent sized land. Remember that they declared us... We may just have to finish them in a war to end all wars. (Where have I heard that line before?)
 
Got it

I'll see if I can start a little war somewhere just for Space :D



Ted
 
I agree the Viking war was pretty pointless. Sure, capturing that wonder (what was it, Smith's?) would have been nice, but the city that held it was pretty far from the front lines. Not really worth the effort considering that we're all ready inhumanly rich.

About being more generous to the AI: I always tried to do that. When buying a tech, I usually threw in some luxes, several thousand g, and 50-100gpt. I suppose I could start giving even more than that, though.
Mostly we just need to be generous with gpt. With a high gpt, the AI should be able to research faster, hopefully getting up to 4 turn research if we're lucky.
 
Pre-flight checks... OK

Pre-turn
Mine tiles around Edrine & Bursa to control the growth rate :D
Hurry some improvements around the Capital & Forbidden Palace

Press button
Babylon & Iroquois sign MA vs Scandinavia
Greece declares war on Korea
Istanbul Cathedral - Colosseum
Ur Cathedral - Colosseum
Edrine Factory - Police
Baghdad Tank - Wealth (+17gpt)
Najran Colosseum - Police
Ellipi Harbour - Colosseum
Bursa Police - Wealth (+9gpt)
Akkad Police - Bank
Fustat Battleship - Wealth (+11gpt)
Kolhapur Stock - Docks
Aleppo Tank - Lib
Konya Cathedral - Uni (culture)
Bengal Hospital - Cathedral
Ganges Granary - Cathedral
Mosul Tank - Wealth (+10gpt)
New Delhi Dock - Colosseum
New Kufah Factory - Stock
New Mecca Factory - Cathedral

1 - 1772AD
Start Baghdad growing again by irrigating 2 tiles
Start Fustat growing again by irrigating 2 tiles
Egypt, Greece & Persia have Flight
Buy Flight from Egypt for 210gpt
Greece & Persia have Computers
Buy Computers from Greece for Gems, Wines + 560gpt
Sell Flight to Korea for WM + 77gpt
Antalya switches to SETI (6 turns)
Punjab, Damascus, Pune, Kufah, Baghdad, Mecca, Punjab, Mosul,Bursa, Delhi, Sana'a, Fustat, Anjar, Nineveh, Khurasan & Basra switch to Aiports

IBT
Nineveh Airport - Bomber
Uruk Tank - Colosseum
Mansura Tank - Bomber
Nimrud Cav - MI
Persia starts SETI - fat chance
Greece starts SETI - some hope
Egypt starts SETI - ROTFLMAO

2 - 1774AD
Upgrade 122 Inf for 4880gp
Upgrade another 6 Inf for 240gp
Upgrade another 4 Inf for 160gp

IBT
KOrea & Egypt sign Peace TReaty
Mongolia and Korea sign Peace Treaty
Medina Airport - Bomber
Alesund Barracks - Market
Bengal Cathedral - Airport
Chittagong Barracks - Aqueduct
Adana Dock - Cathedral
Punjab Airport - Bomber

3 - 1776AD
Upgrade 12 Inf for 480gp
Upgrade 9 Inf for 360gp
Plant spies in Persia & Greece - our attempt in Egypt failed
Investigate Samaria (Persia)
Pop 12 (10h, 0c, 2u) - 44spt, +4fpt, 71gpt - building SETI (20 turns)
Investigate Argos (Greece)
Pop 20 (11h, 0c, 0u, 9ent) - 15spt, 0fpt, 53gpt - building SETI (59 turns)
Investigate Alexandria (Egypt)
Pop 23 (16h, 0c, 2u, 5tax) - 70spt, 0fpt, 68gpt - building SETI (12 turns)

IBT
Scandinavia & Aztecs sign Peace Treaty
Mecca Airport - Bomber
Damascus Airport - Bomber
Edrine Police - Dock
Najran Police - Airport
Kufah Airport - Bomber
Yamama Airport - Bomber
New Delhi Colosseum - Police
Hama Tank - Colosseum
New Mecca Cathedral - Police

4 - 1778AD
Zzz....

IBT
Medina Bomber - Wealth (+21gpt)
Baghdad Airport - Bomber
Nineveh Bomber - Wealth (+8gpt)
Uskudar Tank - Colosseum
Mansura Bomber - Airport
Aleppo Lib - Airport
Adana Cathedral - Colosseum
Pune Airport - Bomber
Mosul Airport - Bomber

5 - 1780AD
Rebase our Bombers in Bursa
Upgrade 11 Galleons for 880gp
Zzz...

IBT
Delhi Airport - Bomber
Istanbul Colosseum - Airport
Ur Colosseum - Airport
Damascus Bomber - Wealth (+16gpt)
Bursa Airport - Bomber
Basra Airport - Bomber
Khurasan Airport - Bomber
Anjar Airport - Bomber
Fustat Airport - Bomber
Fez Stock - Airport
Shihr Stock - Cathedral
Sana'a Airport - Bomber
Punjab Bomber - Colosseum

6 - 1782AD
Bombers to Bursa
Pollution clearing
Zzz...

IBT
Renew embargo vs Scandinavia with Egypt
Renew embargo vs Scandinavia with Greece
Renew embargo vs Scandinavia with Babylon
Renew embargo vs Scandinavia with Azteca
Renew embargo vs Scandinavia with Persia
Mecca Bomber - Wealth (+10gpt)
Kufah Bomber - Wealth (+12gpt)
Antalya SETI - Airport
MB2-1782AD-SETI.jpg

Hyderabad Hospital - Cathedral
Bengal Airport - Bomber
Pune Bomber - Wealth (+12gpt)
New Kufah Stock - Hospital

7 - 1784AD
Bombers to Bursa
Pollution clearing...
Zzz...

IBT
Persia & Greece sign MA vs Scandinavia
Scandinavia & Mongolia sign Peace Treaty
Baghdad Bomber - Wealth (+12gpt)
Uruk Colosseum - Airport
Konya Uni - Colosseum
Adana Colosseum - Police
Mosul Bomber - Wealth (+10gpt)
Babylon declared war on Korea ???

8 - 1786AD
Bombers to Bursa
Pollution clearing...
Zzz...

IBT
Delhi Bomber - Wealth (+9gpt)
Bursa Bomber - Wealth (+9gpt)
Fustat Bomber - Wealth (+9gpt)
Yamama Bomber - Wealth (+6gpt)
Kolhapur Dock - Police
Antalya Airport - Bomber
Shihr Cathedral - Colosseum
Sana'a Bomber - Wealth (+9gpt)
Punjab Colosseum - Wealth (+10gpt)

9 - 1788AD
Bombers to Bursa
Pollution clearing...
Hurry production everywhere and still have 20,836gp in the Treasury

IBT
Babylon Factory - Cathedral
Istanbul Airport - Bomber
Bombay Cathedral - Police
Ur Airport - Bomber
Edrine Dock - Airport
Madras Stock - Cathedral
Ashur Dock - Cathedral
Najran Airport - Bomber
Calcutta Bank - Hospital
Ellipi Colosseum - Police
Iznik Harbour - Cathedral
Basra Bomber - Wealth (+8gpt)
Akkad Bank - Hospital
Khurasan Bomber - Wealth (+7gpt)
Anjar Bomber - Wealth (+8gpt)
Lahore Police - Hospital
Karachi Aqueduct - Cathedral
Uskudar Colosseum - Airport
Ururk Airport - Bomber
Mansura Airport - Bomber
Bukhara Factory - Colosseum
Jalpur Factory - Cathedral
Eridu Market - Aqueduct
Alesund Market - Colosseum
Samarra Factory - Cathedral
Antalya Bomber - Army
Aleppo Airport - Bomber
Hyderabad Cathedral - Harbour
Lagash Bank - Cathedral
Fez Airport - Bomber
Karasjok Harbour - Market
Shiraz Dock - Cathedral
Konya Colosseum - Police
Tromso Harbour - Market
Bengal Bomber - Police
Chittagong Aqueduct - Cathedral
Vadso MArket - Hospital
Dacca Court - Bank
Farsund Market - Court
Indus Market - Court
Ganges Cathedral - Bank
Adana Police - Airport
Pithom Cathedral - Harbour
Balkh Stock - Airport
Izibia Bank - Cathedral
New Delhi Police - Airport
Suhar Factory - Hospital
Taif Stock - Hospital
Larsa Market - Police
Hama Colosseum - Airport
Tabuk Factory - Hospital
New Damascus Factory - Cathedral
New Kufah Hospital - Cathedral
New Mecca Police - Airport
New Medina Bank - Factory
New Baghdad Cathedral - Factory

10 - 1790AD
Bombers to Bursa
Pollution clearing...
Zzz...

Notes
The only AI contributing to research are Egypt, Greece & Persia as far as I can tell.

If I were playing solo I would sign MAs with Egypt vs Aztec, Persia vs Iroquois and Greece vs Scandinavia. Then shift down a gear to Monarchy, wipe out the non-contributors and gift any cities captured to the respective MA partner involved.

I'd end up with the three most useful AI bigger and stronger, past their OCN and better able to research peacefully. The other dead wood AI, Mongolia & Babylon could probably do with being removed as well leaving Korea with perhaps a split empire (Mongolian territory).

The save is > here <

Fill your boots Hooray, it's the weekend :D


Ted
 
Oh, all right. I doubt I can get in more than 5 turns, though. I actually have to go somewhere this weekend.

Maybe we should have let someone else have SETI. Lot of good it's going to do us...
 
Originally posted by Hooray
Maybe we should have let someone else have SETI. Lot of good it's going to do us...
Oops :o

Obviously a hangover from MB1 :)


Ted
 
Pre-turn: I fill that empty Army with two Tanks and two MIs.

1792 AD: Renew Aztec ROP.
We catch the Greeks trying to plant a spy! :eek: I've never seen an AI spy get caught before!
A source of Coal has been exhausted =(
Gift 100gpt to Korea so they don't go broke during their war.

1794: Nothing much. Things are pretty aimless right now.

1796: Aztecs ally with Persia against Viks.
Greeks and Egypt both have Rocketry. I buy it from the Greeks for 5000g, 200gpt, Iron (they don't have Iron?!), and Dyes.
Gift Rocketry to Persians, Koreans, and Aztecs.
Now that we have Rocketry, I see that we have 3 sources of Aluminum.
Begin producing some Cruise Missiles just for the hell of it.

1798: Korea allies with Viks vs. Egypt.
Renew Silks deal with Iroquois.
Another Army built in Antalya. Fill it with two Tanks and two MIs.

1800: Gift Oil and Rubber to Korea. No wonder they're not doing so well in the war. They don't have the two most vital Modern Age resources.

Here is the save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/mb2_1800_AD.SAV
 
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