No problems here. It'll just make MBs job a bit more complicated, but I'm sure he can handle it. 
mb2-a space oddity
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vbraun
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Got it. Thx for PM me I need that (Maniely so i rembeer to to play my turns 
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I can't promise ill get to playing my turns today.
Any thing special i should do?
)I can't promise ill get to playing my turns today.
Any thing special i should do?
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vbraun: The discussion so far has several schools of thought. You can go with whichever you agree with. If you have another suggestion, then post it and we'll annihilate it 
I guess you should build workers in all 1 shield cities. Rail as much as possible. Start a pre-build for TOE in Antalya as soon as Scientific Method is available, and buy SM if more than one Civ gets it on your turns, or worst case try to steal it if the pre-build looks like it'll run out b4 a second civ gets SM.
Keep an eye on the gpt gifts. The iroquois should be kept funded at least. Dont fund the Egyptians or the vikings.
Other than that it's all in the thread, just go the way you want. They're your turns
I guess you should build workers in all 1 shield cities. Rail as much as possible. Start a pre-build for TOE in Antalya as soon as Scientific Method is available, and buy SM if more than one Civ gets it on your turns, or worst case try to steal it if the pre-build looks like it'll run out b4 a second civ gets SM.
Keep an eye on the gpt gifts. The iroquois should be kept funded at least. Dont fund the Egyptians or the vikings.
Other than that it's all in the thread, just go the way you want. They're your turns
vbraun
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I was only able to play 5 turns due to time.
Pre-Flight Checks: Everythings looks good.
IBT:
Mecca Factory - Coal Plant
Nineveh Factory - Police Station
Fustat Granary - Hospital
Yamama Factory - Hospital
Fez Bank - Granary
Mosul Factory - Coal Plant
Persia Declares war on Vikings
Turn 1, 1505 AD
Workers Work
Trade Greece WM + 2650 for Electricity.
Trade Vikings Electricity for WM + 29gpt + 90 gold.
IBT:
Ashur Courthouse - Marketplace
Calcutta Couthouse - Marketplace
Anjar FActory - POlice Station
Konya Courthouse - Bank
Turn 2, 1510 AD
We ask India to leave politly. (Galley)
Workers Work.
Im in a good mood:
Gift Korea 50 gold per turn.
IBT:
Bursa Hospital - Courthouse
Akkad Worker - Worker
Uskadar Factory - Hospital
Bengal Aqueduct - Worker
Suhar Marketplace - Worker
Turn 3, 1515 AD
Workers Work
Give Grecce 5 slaves
Give Korea Nippur, New Narjan, Zariquim
IBT:
Cancel Spices deal Scandinavia (Spices for Fur) He wants to much gold for it.
Korea + Grecce Sign an MPP.
India + Korea Sign a MA vs Vikings.
Damascus Factory - Coal PLant
Shiraz Courthouse - Worker
Sana'a Courthouse - Factory
Pune Bank - Hospital
New Damascus Marketplace - Courthouse
Turn 4, 1520 AD
Workers Work
Give Korea 2 Workers
IBT:
Persia wants a Trade Embargo vs Babs. We decline.
Mecca Coal PLant - Police Station
Medina Factory - Coal PLant
Erdine Cathedral - Bank
Antalya Battlefield Medicine - Coal Plant
Heppo Police Station - Hostpital
Ganges Marketplace - Aqueduct
Balkh Couthouse - Worker
Suhar Worker - Granary
Tait Harbor - Aqueduct
A lot of people are at war with the Vikings. The only reason i gave Grecce the Workers because i couldn't give them to Korea at the time. Mad I didn't get a chane to look at your post untill just now so...
The save:
> here <
Pre-Flight Checks: Everythings looks good.
IBT:
Mecca Factory - Coal Plant
Nineveh Factory - Police Station
Fustat Granary - Hospital
Yamama Factory - Hospital
Fez Bank - Granary
Mosul Factory - Coal Plant
Persia Declares war on Vikings
Turn 1, 1505 AD
Workers Work
Trade Greece WM + 2650 for Electricity.
Trade Vikings Electricity for WM + 29gpt + 90 gold.
IBT:
Ashur Courthouse - Marketplace
Calcutta Couthouse - Marketplace
Anjar FActory - POlice Station
Konya Courthouse - Bank
Turn 2, 1510 AD
We ask India to leave politly. (Galley)
Workers Work.
Im in a good mood:
Gift Korea 50 gold per turn.
IBT:
Bursa Hospital - Courthouse
Akkad Worker - Worker
Uskadar Factory - Hospital
Bengal Aqueduct - Worker
Suhar Marketplace - Worker
Turn 3, 1515 AD
Workers Work
Give Grecce 5 slaves
Give Korea Nippur, New Narjan, Zariquim
IBT:
Cancel Spices deal Scandinavia (Spices for Fur) He wants to much gold for it.
Korea + Grecce Sign an MPP.
India + Korea Sign a MA vs Vikings.
Damascus Factory - Coal PLant
Shiraz Courthouse - Worker
Sana'a Courthouse - Factory
Pune Bank - Hospital
New Damascus Marketplace - Courthouse
Turn 4, 1520 AD
Workers Work
Give Korea 2 Workers
IBT:
Persia wants a Trade Embargo vs Babs. We decline.
Mecca Coal PLant - Police Station
Medina Factory - Coal PLant
Erdine Cathedral - Bank
Antalya Battlefield Medicine - Coal Plant
Heppo Police Station - Hostpital
Ganges Marketplace - Aqueduct
Balkh Couthouse - Worker
Suhar Worker - Granary
Tait Harbor - Aqueduct
A lot of people are at war with the Vikings. The only reason i gave Grecce the Workers because i couldn't give them to Korea at the time. Mad I didn't get a chane to look at your post untill just now so...
The save:
> here <
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Yep, this game is quite time consuming
Good progress anyway
Ted
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
I think Brewster's computer is still sick.
He said he'd check in when he was OK to play again.
Ted
He said he'd check in when he was OK to play again.
Ted
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
I agree too. I thought it best to improve them as much as possible before handing them over in order to maximise the benefit.
Ted
@Mad: Right-o, I'll take this one on sunday if Hooray didn't get to it.
@Hooray: Don't let this chance slip by, it's a great nation to run.
@Hooray: Don't let this chance slip by, it's a great nation to run.
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
Yeah, I'll take it.
I'll probably only be able to do 5 turns, though.
I'll do my best to make our rivals stronger. Heh.
I'll probably only be able to do 5 turns, though.
I'll do my best to make our rivals stronger. Heh.
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
Ended up doing 10 turns after all. I saved time by not recording city production, so it looks like not much really happened on my turns.
Pre-turn: Several workers still have moves left. I send a few on pollution duty.
1530 AD: Iroquois allies with Egypt against Vikings.
Trade 700g and 50gpt to Korea for The Corporation.
Switch a few cities to Stock Exchanges.
1535: Just lots of worker actions.
1540: Gift two workers to Greece, and two more to Korea.
Rush one Stock Exchange so there'll be five next turn in order to build Wall Street.
1545: Begin building Wall Street in Antalya.
1550: Trade 2 Workers, 1000g, and 85gpt to Korea for Replaceable Parts.
Start a Palace in Mecca as a prebuild, hopefully.
1555: Working....
1560: TM trade with Greeks.
Wall street completes. Gpt goes up to nearly 900.
1565: Vikings and Persia sign peace treaty.
Gpt is huge now, more than 1000.
Do mass upgrades of Muskets and Rifles to Infantry.
1570: Vikings destroy the Indians! Farewell, Ghandi.
Renew Silks deal with Iroquois.
WM trade with Korea.
Palace expands.
1575: WM trade with Egypt. WM trade with Iroquois.
Greece and Scandinavia sign peace treaty.
Reject Babylon's offer of an Embargo against Iroquois.
Gift 2 workers to Korea. Wha?! They go from Polite to Cautious from that?! Why?
And that's that. Here's how much money we're making:
Yeah, we're rich. That's not even including all the gpt we're currently sending to other civs.
Here's the save:
The Save
Pre-turn: Several workers still have moves left. I send a few on pollution duty.
1530 AD: Iroquois allies with Egypt against Vikings.
Trade 700g and 50gpt to Korea for The Corporation.
Switch a few cities to Stock Exchanges.
1535: Just lots of worker actions.
1540: Gift two workers to Greece, and two more to Korea.
Rush one Stock Exchange so there'll be five next turn in order to build Wall Street.
1545: Begin building Wall Street in Antalya.
1550: Trade 2 Workers, 1000g, and 85gpt to Korea for Replaceable Parts.
Start a Palace in Mecca as a prebuild, hopefully.
1555: Working....
1560: TM trade with Greeks.
Wall street completes. Gpt goes up to nearly 900.
1565: Vikings and Persia sign peace treaty.
Gpt is huge now, more than 1000.
Do mass upgrades of Muskets and Rifles to Infantry.
1570: Vikings destroy the Indians! Farewell, Ghandi.
Renew Silks deal with Iroquois.
WM trade with Korea.
Palace expands.
1575: WM trade with Egypt. WM trade with Iroquois.
Greece and Scandinavia sign peace treaty.
Reject Babylon's offer of an Embargo against Iroquois.
Gift 2 workers to Korea. Wha?! They go from Polite to Cautious from that?! Why?
And that's that. Here's how much money we're making:
Yeah, we're rich. That's not even including all the gpt we're currently sending to other civs.
Here's the save:
The Save
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Perhaps they think they're spies
Quick turnaround and solid play
Ted
vbraun
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I was pretty sure i played all of my last turn but i guess not
Well played Horray
Let me add to the chorus, Hooray. Well played.
BTW I 'got it'.
BTW I 'got it'.
Hi guys, this is just to let you know I am playing this, I'm about halfway and will try to post the turnlog tomorrow.
Goal:
Help the AI along by
- Gifting cities to Greece
- Sell Coal to those who have it not (execpt Mongols and Viks)
Pre-turn:
Start evacuation of Ted's Holiday Island.
Sell WM to Babs for 30g+WM (all they have)
Sell Coal to Persia for half what they offer (= 20gpt)
Sell Coal to Aztec for half what they offer (= 10gpt)
IT:
Egypt and Viks sign peace
Greece declares war on Viks
Medina Art -> cathedral
Bombay Lib -> Hospital
Nineveh Stock Ex -> Hospital
Uskudar Hospital -> Court
Fustat Art -> Police
Samarra Rax -> Court
Antalya Art -> Police
Suhar Grabary -> 'duct
We are the happiest nation in the World.
1580AD - turn 1
Gift Merw, Shuruppak and Bayt Ras to Greece, they stay annoyed.
Workers work, rush here and there.
IT:
Damascus Art -> Art
Ashur Market -> Harbor
Aleppo Hospital -> Cathedral
Sana'a Factory -> Hospital
Pune Stock X -> Court
Egypt start ToE !
1585AD - turn 2
Buy Sci Meth for Wines, Dyes and 57gpt from Egypt.
Switch Mecca to ToE, ready in 4 turns. [dance]
Sign RoP with Greece to allow me to evacuate some workers.
Gift Kish and Sippar to Greece.
Gift Sci Meth to the Aztec and Greece, Egypt has sold it to the other likely candidates already.
IT:
Viks move a lot of boats in our area.
Medina Cathedral -> Inf
Ur Police -> Hospital
Akkad Rax -> Court
Antalya Inf -> Inf (everything it can build can be build in 1 turn...)
Konya Harbor -> Factory
Bangal Court -> Bank
Shirir Temple -> Court
Aydab police -> Hospital
New Mecca Temple -> Hospital
Persia and Aztecs start ToE
1590AD - turn 3
The Viks have a ship near our poorly defended little island, I sell our WM for 1gpt just to nudge them to the peaceful side of things. They probably head for the Greeks anyway, but this'll not hurt.
Sell Greece Coal for 20gpt.
IT:
Egypt and Iroquois sign an MPP
Viks *do land a party on the lil'ilse
Damascus Art -> Art
Najran Stock -> Galleon
Kufah Coal Plant -> Hospital
Kolhapur Bank -> Hospital
Antalya Inf -> Inf
Indus Inf -> Rax
Mosul Stock -> Hospital
Nimrud Court -> Art
Egypt declares the Viks
Viks and Greeks start ToE
1595AD - turn 4
Ask Ragnar to leave, he declares!
Vet Cav vs Vet Cav, Viks win and promotes to Elite 3hp left
Looking back I should just have gifted those cities, oh well now we'll just have to fight over some nasty useless island.
Sign RoP with Persia.
IT:
We lose Dacca to the Viks.
Istanbul Police -> Bank
Medina Inf -> Inf
Ashur Harbor -> Ironclad
Calcutta Market -> 'duct
Iznik Court -> Art
Lahore duct -> Art
Fustat Police -> Inf
Bukhara Hospital -> Art
Jaipur Bank -> Stock
Antalya Inf -> Inf
Lagash Rax -> Inf
Shiraz Market -> 'duct
Pune Court -> Cathedral
New Delhi Hospital -> Bank
Larsa Temple -> Guerilla
New Kufah Harbor -> Market
Korea start ToE
1600AD - turn 5
Move troops to Malvi.. eh lil-isle.
Buy Hospitals and Aqueducts.
IT:
Viks unload Guerrillas
Mongols wanna talk, Trade WMs they gift all their cash (11g) as well.
Mecca completes ToE, take Atomic Theory and Electronics
Mecca ToE -> Ironclad
Damascus Arty -> Inf
Baghdad Police -> Cav
Bengalore Cathedral -> Arty
Kufah Hospital -> Inf
Ushkudar Court -> Bank
Antalya Inf -> Hoover's (in 8 turns !)
Shiraz 'duct -> police
Indus Rax -> Art
Ganges 'duct -> ironclad
Adana Bank -> Hospital
Aydab Hospital -> Bank
Taif 'duct -> Cathedral
Punjab Hospital -> Stock
New Damascus 'duct -> Bank
New Baghdad 'duct -> Market
1605AD - turn 6
I decide to wait with gifting AT around, not because I'm worried we won't get Hoover's but because they all would start researching Electronics. This way maybe they'll research the other branch.
Start joining some workers.
IT:
Viks attack Indus, promoting our Inf to Elite and they leave a redlined Cav as bait for the Elite
Ansar.
Medina Inf -> Inf
Edrine Bank -> Stock
Nineveh Hospital -> Ironclad
Najrah Galleon -> Galleon
Ellipi Rax -> Hospital
Basra Police -> ironclad
Khurasan Factory -> Stock
Anjar Stock -> Hospital
Fustat Inf -> Inf
Fez Police -> cathedral
Pune Cathedral -> Cav
Suhar 'duct -> Art
1610AD - turn 7
Land some more troops on lil'isle, defeat Vik Cav.
Workers now complete the roadnet in backwaters, soon they'll be on pollution only.
IT:
Viks destroy Rax in Indus and sink an empty Galleon.
Mecca ironclad -> ironclad
Damascus Inf -> Inf
Yamama Stock -> Ironclad
Sana'a Hospital -> Stock
Mosul Hospital -> Inf
Hama Bank -> stock
New Medina 'duct -> Rax
Our Palace get it's last wing.
1615AD - turn 8
Our vet Cav redlines an Elite Vik Cav before it dies.
Our vet Cav redlines an Vet Vik Cav before it dies.
Elite Ansar wins!
Elite Inf liberates Dacca, the Malv.. errrm lil'isle is ours again.
Egypt has steel! We buy it for Incense and 106 gpt, I don't use AT for the same reason as before. I gift it to all AI, save Viks (don't wanna talk), Mongols and Babs.
IT:
The Aztecs want AT for their WM, no!
Delhi Police -> Factory
Medina Inf -> Inf
Ur Hospital -> Stock
Baghdad Cav -> Cav
Bursa Factory -> Stock
Kufah Inf -> Inf
Fustat Inf -> Inf
Uruk Hospital -> Factory
Eridu Rax -> Court
Aleppo Cathedral -> Factory
Pune Cav -> Cav
Larse 'duct -> Art
1620AD - turn 9
Make stacks of workers to wait for the inevitable pollution.
IT:
Mecca ironclad -> ironclad
Damascus Inf -> Inf
Nineveh ironc -> inronc
Najrah Galleon -> Galleon
Hyderabad Bank -> stock
Shihr Court -> Bank
1625AD - turn 10
I leave a lot of workers fortified, the next player can wake them if he wants.
The Viks still don't want to talk, the next player can decide whether or not to invade. I added 3 Elite wins to the account in the fight for Dacca. Hoover is going to complete in a couple of turns, maybe it time to spread AT and Electronics.
Several inches and a lot of gold nearer to Launch
Help the AI along by
- Gifting cities to Greece
- Sell Coal to those who have it not (execpt Mongols and Viks)
Pre-turn:
Start evacuation of Ted's Holiday Island.
Sell WM to Babs for 30g+WM (all they have)
Sell Coal to Persia for half what they offer (= 20gpt)
Sell Coal to Aztec for half what they offer (= 10gpt)
IT:
Egypt and Viks sign peace
Greece declares war on Viks
Medina Art -> cathedral
Bombay Lib -> Hospital
Nineveh Stock Ex -> Hospital
Uskudar Hospital -> Court
Fustat Art -> Police
Samarra Rax -> Court
Antalya Art -> Police
Suhar Grabary -> 'duct
We are the happiest nation in the World.
1580AD - turn 1
Gift Merw, Shuruppak and Bayt Ras to Greece, they stay annoyed.
Workers work, rush here and there.
IT:
Damascus Art -> Art
Ashur Market -> Harbor
Aleppo Hospital -> Cathedral
Sana'a Factory -> Hospital
Pune Stock X -> Court
Egypt start ToE !
1585AD - turn 2
Buy Sci Meth for Wines, Dyes and 57gpt from Egypt.
Switch Mecca to ToE, ready in 4 turns. [dance]
Sign RoP with Greece to allow me to evacuate some workers.
Gift Kish and Sippar to Greece.
Gift Sci Meth to the Aztec and Greece, Egypt has sold it to the other likely candidates already.
IT:
Viks move a lot of boats in our area.
Medina Cathedral -> Inf
Ur Police -> Hospital
Akkad Rax -> Court
Antalya Inf -> Inf (everything it can build can be build in 1 turn...)
Konya Harbor -> Factory
Bangal Court -> Bank
Shirir Temple -> Court
Aydab police -> Hospital
New Mecca Temple -> Hospital
Persia and Aztecs start ToE
1590AD - turn 3
The Viks have a ship near our poorly defended little island, I sell our WM for 1gpt just to nudge them to the peaceful side of things. They probably head for the Greeks anyway, but this'll not hurt.
Sell Greece Coal for 20gpt.
IT:
Egypt and Iroquois sign an MPP
Viks *do land a party on the lil'ilse
Damascus Art -> Art
Najran Stock -> Galleon
Kufah Coal Plant -> Hospital
Kolhapur Bank -> Hospital
Antalya Inf -> Inf
Indus Inf -> Rax
Mosul Stock -> Hospital
Nimrud Court -> Art
Egypt declares the Viks
Viks and Greeks start ToE
1595AD - turn 4
Ask Ragnar to leave, he declares!
Vet Cav vs Vet Cav, Viks win and promotes to Elite 3hp left
Looking back I should just have gifted those cities, oh well now we'll just have to fight over some nasty useless island.
Sign RoP with Persia.
IT:
We lose Dacca to the Viks.
Istanbul Police -> Bank
Medina Inf -> Inf
Ashur Harbor -> Ironclad
Calcutta Market -> 'duct
Iznik Court -> Art
Lahore duct -> Art
Fustat Police -> Inf
Bukhara Hospital -> Art
Jaipur Bank -> Stock
Antalya Inf -> Inf
Lagash Rax -> Inf
Shiraz Market -> 'duct
Pune Court -> Cathedral
New Delhi Hospital -> Bank
Larsa Temple -> Guerilla
New Kufah Harbor -> Market
Korea start ToE
1600AD - turn 5
Move troops to Malvi.. eh lil-isle.
Buy Hospitals and Aqueducts.
IT:
Viks unload Guerrillas
Mongols wanna talk, Trade WMs they gift all their cash (11g) as well.
Mecca completes ToE, take Atomic Theory and Electronics
Mecca ToE -> Ironclad
Damascus Arty -> Inf
Baghdad Police -> Cav
Bengalore Cathedral -> Arty
Kufah Hospital -> Inf
Ushkudar Court -> Bank
Antalya Inf -> Hoover's (in 8 turns !)
Shiraz 'duct -> police
Indus Rax -> Art
Ganges 'duct -> ironclad
Adana Bank -> Hospital
Aydab Hospital -> Bank
Taif 'duct -> Cathedral
Punjab Hospital -> Stock
New Damascus 'duct -> Bank
New Baghdad 'duct -> Market
1605AD - turn 6
I decide to wait with gifting AT around, not because I'm worried we won't get Hoover's but because they all would start researching Electronics. This way maybe they'll research the other branch.
Start joining some workers.
IT:
Viks attack Indus, promoting our Inf to Elite and they leave a redlined Cav as bait for the Elite
Ansar.
Medina Inf -> Inf
Edrine Bank -> Stock
Nineveh Hospital -> Ironclad
Najrah Galleon -> Galleon
Ellipi Rax -> Hospital
Basra Police -> ironclad
Khurasan Factory -> Stock
Anjar Stock -> Hospital
Fustat Inf -> Inf
Fez Police -> cathedral
Pune Cathedral -> Cav
Suhar 'duct -> Art
1610AD - turn 7
Land some more troops on lil'isle, defeat Vik Cav.
Workers now complete the roadnet in backwaters, soon they'll be on pollution only.
IT:
Viks destroy Rax in Indus and sink an empty Galleon.
Mecca ironclad -> ironclad
Damascus Inf -> Inf
Yamama Stock -> Ironclad
Sana'a Hospital -> Stock
Mosul Hospital -> Inf
Hama Bank -> stock
New Medina 'duct -> Rax
Our Palace get it's last wing.
1615AD - turn 8
Our vet Cav redlines an Elite Vik Cav before it dies.
Our vet Cav redlines an Vet Vik Cav before it dies.
Elite Ansar wins!
Elite Inf liberates Dacca, the Malv.. errrm lil'isle is ours again.
Egypt has steel!
We buy it for Incense and 106 gpt, I don't use AT for the same reason as before. I gift it to all AI, save Viks (don't wanna talk), Mongols and Babs.IT:
The Aztecs want AT for their WM, no!
Delhi Police -> Factory
Medina Inf -> Inf
Ur Hospital -> Stock
Baghdad Cav -> Cav
Bursa Factory -> Stock
Kufah Inf -> Inf
Fustat Inf -> Inf
Uruk Hospital -> Factory
Eridu Rax -> Court
Aleppo Cathedral -> Factory
Pune Cav -> Cav
Larse 'duct -> Art
1620AD - turn 9
Make stacks of workers to wait for the inevitable pollution.
IT:
Mecca ironclad -> ironclad
Damascus Inf -> Inf
Nineveh ironc -> inronc
Najrah Galleon -> Galleon
Hyderabad Bank -> stock
Shihr Court -> Bank
1625AD - turn 10
I leave a lot of workers fortified, the next player can wake them if he wants.
The Viks still don't want to talk, the next player can decide whether or not to invade. I added 3 Elite wins to the account in the fight for Dacca. Hoover is going to complete in a couple of turns, maybe it time to spread AT and Electronics.
Several inches and a lot of gold nearer to Launch
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Nice going Space
Maybe it's time to wave goodbye to those pesky Vikings
Ted
Maybe it's time to wave goodbye to those pesky Vikings
Ted
vbraun
Raytracing
Originally posted by TedJackson
Maybe it's time to wave goodbye to those pesky Vikings
Heres the wave we shall give them: :soldier: :soldier:
:soldier: :soldier: Anyway, Nice set of turns Space
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
How about a few :tank: :tank: :tank: just to finish 'em offOriginally posted by vbraun
Heres the wave we shall give them: :soldier: :soldier:
Ted
