Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Wow, great progress.
One could even say that we've expanded quite wonderously
One could even say that we've expanded quite wonderously
Mic3 - Wonder Expansion
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TheNemesis666
Warlord
you're a sick man kaiser. 
1550AD [Preturn]: Check the flip risks as told, and none of the cities is in danger of flipping. Ganges is the only one, with 0.16% chance. Not that bad.
MM Moscow for max commerce.
Hurry court in Hangchow.
Some minor Mming.
Our cities are really happy. Most have WLTKD.
IBT: Moscow completes the Intelligence Agency. > Military Academy.
St. Pete inf > police station.
Novgorod inf > nothing else to build than military, so art.
Hangchow court > market.
Taroslavl' inf > coastal fortress.
Vladivostok duct > granary.
1555AD [1]: Barricading complete in the South.
Remember what microbe said about the areas near the oil colony, send some infs there to block any settlers.
RR.
Hurry temple in Calcutta.
Hurry market in Bryansk.
Hurry court in Tver'.
IBT: Calcutta temple > rax.
Bryansk market > harbor.
Krasnoyarsk temple > factory.
Yaroslavl' coastal fort > inf.
Tver' court > temple.
1560AD [2]: RR.
IBT: Novgorod inf > inf.
Buffalo stock > coast fort.
1565AD [3]: RR, hurry harb in Bryansk.
IBT: Calcutta rax > cath.
St Pete police > inf.
Bryansk harb > temple.
Buffalo coast fort > wealth. We need nothing, and money can be used to rush stuff in newer towns.
Yaroslavl' inf > wealth.
1570AD [4]: RRing...
IBT: Novgorod inf > wealth.
Tver' temple > market.
Vladivostok granary > temple.
1575AD [5]: RR.
IBT: Ganges uni > bank.
1580AD [6]: Garrison the forts at the Indian Frontier.
IBT: We learn Steel > combustion, due in 11.
Moscow completes the Military Academy > hospital. I know it doesn't need one, but we have only 4 hospitals and Battlefield medicine requires 4. So, I'm building it here so we get it faster, no city is in real need of one for a while.
1585AD [7]: Decide to check just in case, and Wall street actually gives more cultre than the BF, 2 against 1. Seeing that, I rush a Stock in Calcutta and use the hospital in Moscow as a minor prebuild.
IBT: Calcutta stock > hospital to get also Battlefield Medicine on line.
1590AD [8]: Moscow switches to Wall Street, due in 4.
IBT: Pollution strikes Moscow.
Bryansk temple > bank.
Pollution strikes Vladivostok.
1595AD [9]: Clean the pollution, RR.
IBT: Pollution strikes Novgorod.
Vladivostok temple > market.
We get a Palace Expansion, Yay!
1600AD [10]: RR a litle more.
Pretty boring turns, mostly waiting... the cultural victory is still some 100 turns away...
MM Moscow for max commerce.
Hurry court in Hangchow.
Some minor Mming.
Our cities are really happy. Most have WLTKD.
IBT: Moscow completes the Intelligence Agency. > Military Academy.
St. Pete inf > police station.
Novgorod inf > nothing else to build than military, so art.
Hangchow court > market.
Taroslavl' inf > coastal fortress.
Vladivostok duct > granary.
1555AD [1]: Barricading complete in the South.
Remember what microbe said about the areas near the oil colony, send some infs there to block any settlers.
RR.
Hurry temple in Calcutta.
Hurry market in Bryansk.
Hurry court in Tver'.
IBT: Calcutta temple > rax.
Bryansk market > harbor.
Krasnoyarsk temple > factory.
Yaroslavl' coastal fort > inf.
Tver' court > temple.
1560AD [2]: RR.
IBT: Novgorod inf > inf.
Buffalo stock > coast fort.
1565AD [3]: RR, hurry harb in Bryansk.
IBT: Calcutta rax > cath.
St Pete police > inf.
Bryansk harb > temple.
Buffalo coast fort > wealth. We need nothing, and money can be used to rush stuff in newer towns.
Yaroslavl' inf > wealth.
1570AD [4]: RRing...
IBT: Novgorod inf > wealth.
Tver' temple > market.
Vladivostok granary > temple.
1575AD [5]: RR.
IBT: Ganges uni > bank.
1580AD [6]: Garrison the forts at the Indian Frontier.
IBT: We learn Steel > combustion, due in 11.
Moscow completes the Military Academy > hospital. I know it doesn't need one, but we have only 4 hospitals and Battlefield medicine requires 4. So, I'm building it here so we get it faster, no city is in real need of one for a while.
1585AD [7]: Decide to check just in case, and Wall street actually gives more cultre than the BF, 2 against 1. Seeing that, I rush a Stock in Calcutta and use the hospital in Moscow as a minor prebuild.
IBT: Calcutta stock > hospital to get also Battlefield Medicine on line.
1590AD [8]: Moscow switches to Wall Street, due in 4.
IBT: Pollution strikes Moscow.
Bryansk temple > bank.
Pollution strikes Vladivostok.
1595AD [9]: Clean the pollution, RR.
IBT: Pollution strikes Novgorod.
Vladivostok temple > market.
We get a Palace Expansion, Yay!
1600AD [10]: RR a litle more.
Pretty boring turns, mostly waiting... the cultural victory is still some 100 turns away...
Good turns Ankka! Lets try to get spies everywhere now, as we may need them later. Remember, if you can't get a spy in on the first try, wait 5-6 turns and try again.
I think we should set up blockades between us and India, JIC. We have more than enough workers, and they will get it done very quickly, besides, what else are they gonna do? LOL!
I think we should set up blockades between us and India, JIC. We have more than enough workers, and they will get it done very quickly, besides, what else are they gonna do? LOL!
microbe
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I think we have 5 other cities that can build hospitals. Now we have to pay unnecessary maintenance for this unneeded hospital forever, as hospitals cannot be sold.
I agree it's boring now. It's always true for a culture game. I guess we can do max research to build modern age wonders (Computers first) to get it done faster. There is no worry of a space win anywhere.
TheNamesis666-up
microbe - on deck
grs
nameless one
Moscow has no hospital, Ankka changed his mind.
TheNemesis666
Warlord
this is a got it, but I just got to work. Will play and post in about 10 hours.
TheNemesis666
Warlord
preturn
everything looks good
1605AD (1)
palace expansion
buy hospital in calcutta so we have BM for moscow next turn
1610AD (2)
Moscow wall street->police station (need calcutta's build first)
calcutta hospital->harbor
switch moscow to BM (MM for shields)
hangchow market->uni
IBT
pollution stikes moscow and buffalo
1615AD (3)
clean up moscow and buffalo
hurry uni at hangchow for 348g
IBT
Ottomans renew peace
1620AD (4)
calcutta harbor->cathedral (really only for culture as it's a border city)
Hangchow uni->cathedral (same)
Tver' market->aqueduct
1625AD (5)
bored workers update our fort wall in the NE to accomodate border expansion
buy catherdal at Calcutta and Hangchow (504g and 588g)
sci40%, +339gpt, 194g, Combustion stays 3t
IBT
dyes, wines, spices and gems from america expires (we were giving furs and 24gpt)
we renew but at furs+52gpt! (I decide it's not going to cut into our economy too bad)
lol the ottos want to trade us their WM for our WM+refining
1630AD (6)
calcutta cathedral->colosseum
hangchow cathedral->colosseum
IBT
Pollution at moscow
1635AD (7)
Ganges bank->factory
vladivostok market->factory
clean moscow
chop forrest at vlad, start mine in it's place
buy colosseum at calcutta hangchow for 336g and 420g
sci30%, +440gpt, 81g, combustion stays 1t
IBT
pollution at moscow
1640AD (8)
we discover combustion
sci50%, +251gpt, 484g, Mass Production 9t (decided we probably want commercial docks more than we want expiry of colossus)
calcutta colosseum->wealth
hangchow colosseum->factory
clean moscow
IBT
India renews peace
polution at novgorod, yaroslavl', vladivostok
1645AD (9)
clean nov and yaro
not enough workers at vlad to complete in 1 turn
(ship some slave workers to vlad, arrive next turn, but will need 2 more i think)
IBT
incense deal from india expires
renew: Incense+11gpt for silks (2 less gpt)
1650AD (10)
Moscow Battlefield Medicine->Stock Exchange
workers arrive at vlad.
I think we need to ship a couple more workers to vlad if we want a team that can clean pollution on plains in a single turn
Other than that, not much to report, I spent a fair bit of cash getting the cpt up in our border cities.
Moscow is now at 12268c 97cpt (I think that's about 80 turns)
everything looks good
1605AD (1)
palace expansion
buy hospital in calcutta so we have BM for moscow next turn
1610AD (2)
Moscow wall street->police station (need calcutta's build first)
calcutta hospital->harbor
switch moscow to BM (MM for shields)
hangchow market->uni
IBT
pollution stikes moscow and buffalo
1615AD (3)
clean up moscow and buffalo
hurry uni at hangchow for 348g
IBT
Ottomans renew peace
1620AD (4)
calcutta harbor->cathedral (really only for culture as it's a border city)
Hangchow uni->cathedral (same)
Tver' market->aqueduct
1625AD (5)
bored workers update our fort wall in the NE to accomodate border expansion
buy catherdal at Calcutta and Hangchow (504g and 588g)
sci40%, +339gpt, 194g, Combustion stays 3t
IBT
dyes, wines, spices and gems from america expires (we were giving furs and 24gpt)
we renew but at furs+52gpt! (I decide it's not going to cut into our economy too bad)
lol the ottos want to trade us their WM for our WM+refining
1630AD (6)
calcutta cathedral->colosseum
hangchow cathedral->colosseum
IBT
Pollution at moscow
1635AD (7)
Ganges bank->factory
vladivostok market->factory
clean moscow
chop forrest at vlad, start mine in it's place
buy colosseum at calcutta hangchow for 336g and 420g
sci30%, +440gpt, 81g, combustion stays 1t
IBT
pollution at moscow
1640AD (8)
we discover combustion
sci50%, +251gpt, 484g, Mass Production 9t (decided we probably want commercial docks more than we want expiry of colossus)
calcutta colosseum->wealth
hangchow colosseum->factory
clean moscow
IBT
India renews peace
polution at novgorod, yaroslavl', vladivostok
1645AD (9)
clean nov and yaro
not enough workers at vlad to complete in 1 turn
(ship some slave workers to vlad, arrive next turn, but will need 2 more i think)
IBT
incense deal from india expires
renew: Incense+11gpt for silks (2 less gpt)
1650AD (10)
Moscow Battlefield Medicine->Stock Exchange
workers arrive at vlad.
I think we need to ship a couple more workers to vlad if we want a team that can clean pollution on plains in a single turn
Other than that, not much to report, I spent a fair bit of cash getting the cpt up in our border cities.
Moscow is now at 12268c 97cpt (I think that's about 80 turns)
Good turns. An awful lot of rushing in unnessary rushes though. I don't see Hangchow needing a cathedral for a very long time. Remember, our income is now tied to how much gold we have in the bank.
Chop all of the forests in Vladivostock, with everything railroaded there, they are simply no longer effective. Each of those plain tiles can get it 1 shield and 3 food or 3 shields and 1 food. I would irrigate all of the plains first, to get Vlad's pop up, then mine 2 squares.
Chop all of the forests in Vladivostock, with everything railroaded there, they are simply no longer effective. Each of those plain tiles can get it 1 shield and 3 food or 3 shields and 1 food. I would irrigate all of the plains first, to get Vlad's pop up, then mine 2 squares.
microbe
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I played at work. 
Preturn: I decide to go full speed on research to get some modern wonders built. Mass Production in 4 turns.
I sell Combustion to India for 291gpt+77g+WM.
I can see our borders are defended properly.
Merge some workers. I also start some infantry. Not a big deal but I just want to see more than one defender in the cities. I also start a destroyer.
We could make Bufflo a 1-turn infantry if we switch irrigation to mine, but since we don't have much to build, more food is better (more pop == more scientists/taxmen). As game in this state, MM is mostly meaningless.
IBT Palace expansion. India is the most advanced civ? Yep, it's up us Facism.
1675AD: Mass Production -> Motorized Transportation in 4.
We can now build Commercial Docks.
I chop forests around Bryansk.
1680AD: Steel to Ottomans for WM+46gpt+11g.
1690AD: Motorized Transportation -> Flight in 5. I merged quite some native workers and we are making +172gpt at 90% science. Novgorod is size 27 so I start pumping out settlers to merge into other cities.
IBT America demands Combustion, I tell it to go away and it declares. It also declares on Iros.
Ganges riots.
1695AD: I MA with India by 17gpt, mainly to avoid losing the huge gpt payment. I also MA with Ottomans by furs+6gpt.
I start some colloseums.
1700AD: I just noticed we are still buying silks from Ottomans while we already have it, so I cancel the deal and get 29gpt back.
We are 101cpt and will win within 67 turns.
After Flight let's go Fission and then Computers -> Miniaturization. The current deal with India will end in 10 turns, and we can sell another tech if it pays such good price again.
Preturn: I decide to go full speed on research to get some modern wonders built. Mass Production in 4 turns.
I sell Combustion to India for 291gpt+77g+WM.
I can see our borders are defended properly.
Merge some workers. I also start some infantry. Not a big deal but I just want to see more than one defender in the cities. I also start a destroyer.
We could make Bufflo a 1-turn infantry if we switch irrigation to mine, but since we don't have much to build, more food is better (more pop == more scientists/taxmen). As game in this state, MM is mostly meaningless.
IBT Palace expansion. India is the most advanced civ? Yep, it's up us Facism.
1675AD: Mass Production -> Motorized Transportation in 4.
We can now build Commercial Docks.
I chop forests around Bryansk.
1680AD: Steel to Ottomans for WM+46gpt+11g.
1690AD: Motorized Transportation -> Flight in 5. I merged quite some native workers and we are making +172gpt at 90% science. Novgorod is size 27 so I start pumping out settlers to merge into other cities.
IBT America demands Combustion, I tell it to go away and it declares. It also declares on Iros.
Ganges riots.
1695AD: I MA with India by 17gpt, mainly to avoid losing the huge gpt payment. I also MA with Ottomans by furs+6gpt.
I start some colloseums.
1700AD: I just noticed we are still buying silks from Ottomans while we already have it, so I cancel the deal and get 29gpt back.
We are 101cpt and will win within 67 turns.
After Flight let's go Fission and then Computers -> Miniaturization. The current deal with India will end in 10 turns, and we can sell another tech if it pays such good price again.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Preturn- Wow. Our military has expanded just a little since my turns
IT- zzz
T1 1705
Not much. Clean Pollution.
IT- zzz
T2 1710
Flight next turn.
IT- We discover flight, and go modern. Our free tech is Ecology. Research set to Fission. At 100%, we get it in 8 turns with +72gpt.
T3 1715
Not much.
IT- zzz
T4 1720
Nothing.
IT- zzz
T5 1725
Nothing
IT- zzz
T6 1730
Again nothing. This is kinda boring.
IT- Oh happy day, Abe must have heard my woes about being bored as American ships approach our coast.
T7 1735
Just hoping the Americans land some troops.
IT- Yay, America lands 13 cavs next to Krasnoyarsk.
T8 1740
I tear apart the American cavalry with our artillery, and then let the cossacks play, and we get Trotsky
He's sent back to Moscow, as we can't support any more armies.
The cavs are finished off with tanks. It is a glorious slaughter. The entire Motherland rejoices.
IT- zzz
T9 1745
Nothing new.
IT- America and India sign peace.
I renew a lux deal with India.
We learn Fission, start Computers.
T10 1750
Moscow starts UN (13 turns)
Summary
Pretty uneventful aside from the American "invasion". We're pretty much on cruise control now.
IT- zzz
T1 1705
Not much. Clean Pollution.
IT- zzz
T2 1710
Flight next turn.
IT- We discover flight, and go modern. Our free tech is Ecology. Research set to Fission. At 100%, we get it in 8 turns with +72gpt.
T3 1715
Not much.
IT- zzz
T4 1720
Nothing.
IT- zzz
T5 1725
Nothing
IT- zzz
T6 1730
Again nothing. This is kinda boring.
IT- Oh happy day, Abe must have heard my woes about being bored as American ships approach our coast.
T7 1735
Just hoping the Americans land some troops.
IT- Yay, America lands 13 cavs next to Krasnoyarsk.
T8 1740
I tear apart the American cavalry with our artillery, and then let the cossacks play, and we get Trotsky
He's sent back to Moscow, as we can't support any more armies.
The cavs are finished off with tanks. It is a glorious slaughter. The entire Motherland rejoices.
IT- zzz
T9 1745
Nothing new.
IT- America and India sign peace.
I renew a lux deal with India.
We learn Fission, start Computers.
T10 1750
Moscow starts UN (13 turns)
Summary
Pretty uneventful aside from the American "invasion". We're pretty much on cruise control now.
microbe
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13 cavs landing? That's impressive!
I think we can sell Mass Production to India and get 150gpt (full price).
After computers please upgrade all our infantry. We can also disband a cossack army and replace with tank+MI army.
microbe
Kaiser_Berger
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Kiech - on deck
Ankka
TheNemesis666
I think we can sell Mass Production to India and get 150gpt (full price).
After computers please upgrade all our infantry. We can also disband a cossack army and replace with tank+MI army.
microbe
Kaiser_Berger
grs - up
Kiech - on deck
Ankka
TheNemesis666
grs
nameless one
Ok, then I will not slow it down - got it and will start now. As long as my daughter stays asleep you will get it back soon.
grs
nameless one
Pre and IBT: sell mass production to India for 150gpt and world map; irrigate Krasno; Calcutta has all improvements and is switched to wealth
1752AD: hurry last 2 turns of hospital in Tver; speed up our research
1756AD: america and Ottos sign peace
1758AD: sink 2 american frigate; Abe denies straight peace
1760AD: Abe sinks a destroyer with a frigate!; we sink 1 frigate again...since all MAs were cancelled by the AI and this war is pointless we give him 3gpt for peace - if it makes him happier...
1762AD: furs + 30gpt to Abe for 3 luxes; computers-miniturization
1764AD: upgrade all infantry, a rifleman and a galleon; Moscow will bounce between 20 and 21 pop
1766AD: India enters the modern times; Americans destroy the Iroquis - again!
1768AD: Osman wants to trade maps and get mass production for it - no
1770AD: changed wealth to research labs, put others on building queues
We make -200gpt, but I see no reason to sell tech, after mini, we will have more to build at Moscow than we have time to do. Krasno can grow every 2 turns now, Tver in 3, I would keep it that way. After the research lab you could mm Yaroslavl to fast growth - I think it would be worth more than just producing more shields for wealth. Culture in Moscow is 15.298 at 101 = 46 turns probably some less; I wont get it back anyways. Looks like microbe can finish it, what I'd see fitting.
I forgot to build the tank army so have fun with it
Nice playing with you all.
1752AD: hurry last 2 turns of hospital in Tver; speed up our research
1756AD: america and Ottos sign peace
1758AD: sink 2 american frigate; Abe denies straight peace
1760AD: Abe sinks a destroyer with a frigate!; we sink 1 frigate again...since all MAs were cancelled by the AI and this war is pointless we give him 3gpt for peace - if it makes him happier...
1762AD: furs + 30gpt to Abe for 3 luxes; computers-miniturization
1764AD: upgrade all infantry, a rifleman and a galleon; Moscow will bounce between 20 and 21 pop
1766AD: India enters the modern times; Americans destroy the Iroquis - again!
1768AD: Osman wants to trade maps and get mass production for it - no
1770AD: changed wealth to research labs, put others on building queues
We make -200gpt, but I see no reason to sell tech, after mini, we will have more to build at Moscow than we have time to do. Krasno can grow every 2 turns now, Tver in 3, I would keep it that way. After the research lab you could mm Yaroslavl to fast growth - I think it would be worth more than just producing more shields for wealth. Culture in Moscow is 15.298 at 101 = 46 turns probably some less; I wont get it back anyways. Looks like microbe can finish it, what I'd see fitting.
I forgot to build the tank army so have fun with it
Nice playing with you all.
