We didn't need Eiffel as we could just build broadcast towers, but at least it gives culture itself. I suggest we just build UN normally now and let Eiffel finish normally (there's no way AI will beat us to it since we were first to radio and used an engineer.) Since we don't have factories or Kremlin, gold rushing late wonders is extremely expensive, which is painful when we have already built up +300% or so culture multiplier.
mm14: Honorable Peaceniks Emp.
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Switch engineer to artist in Heliopolis. Eiffel tower still due in 5 turns
There is already some money in the treasury and there is no consensus about rushing Eiffer tower and UN. Decide to go for another round of treasury funding, rush Eiffel tower for immediate culture boost in all cities and then max culture slider at positive income
Turn 1 : zzzzzzzzz
Turn 2 : I hire a third artist at fishing village when eiffel tower is finished. Mansa has mass media. I guess that Hollywood is lost
Turn 3 : Cathy finishes Rock'n Roll
Turn 4 : Cyrus adopts representation, emancipation, and free religion. fishing village grows and I hire 4th artist
Turn 5 : I hear the horn. Gives me a chill. That was cathy declaring on Gengis. This guy is finished, I think.
Turn 6 : Karakorum is down. Gengis is no more. That was fast for an AI/AI war
Turn 7 : JC drops devensive pact. It is now redded out
Turn 8 : Catherine goes free religion. And I had missionaries going her way. Arggghh
Turn 9 : great artist is merged in Memphis but the city is still last in cpt. Defnitely need another cathedral there
Turn 10 : zzzzzzzzz
When Memphis finished with UN, the grassland/hills mines should be turnd into windmills. More gold and with extra food, we can afford artists. Should also put some taoist temples to get a taoist pagoda in memphis. This city is lagging in culture points
Switch engineer to artist in Heliopolis. Eiffel tower still due in 5 turns
There is already some money in the treasury and there is no consensus about rushing Eiffer tower and UN. Decide to go for another round of treasury funding, rush Eiffel tower for immediate culture boost in all cities and then max culture slider at positive income
Turn 1 : zzzzzzzzz
Turn 2 : I hire a third artist at fishing village when eiffel tower is finished. Mansa has mass media. I guess that Hollywood is lost
Turn 3 : Cathy finishes Rock'n Roll
Turn 4 : Cyrus adopts representation, emancipation, and free religion. fishing village grows and I hire 4th artist
Turn 5 : I hear the horn. Gives me a chill. That was cathy declaring on Gengis. This guy is finished, I think.
Turn 6 : Karakorum is down. Gengis is no more. That was fast for an AI/AI war
Turn 7 : JC drops devensive pact. It is now redded out
Turn 8 : Catherine goes free religion. And I had missionaries going her way. Arggghh
Turn 9 : great artist is merged in Memphis but the city is still last in cpt. Defnitely need another cathedral there
Turn 10 : zzzzzzzzz
When Memphis finished with UN, the grassland/hills mines should be turnd into windmills. More gold and with extra food, we can afford artists. Should also put some taoist temples to get a taoist pagoda in memphis. This city is lagging in culture points
Memphis was generating 368 cpt and has 43 000 culture points to go. This means : 43 000/368 = 116 turns
Artist is 12 culture per turn. We have +300% modifier which means 48 cpt.
4000/48 = 83 turns to get the "chef d'oeuvre" equivalent
We should be windmilling mines and there is still a village to grow to town at Memphis but we also should get another +50% from cathedral there
Artist is 12 culture per turn. We have +300% modifier which means 48 cpt.
4000/48 = 83 turns to get the "chef d'oeuvre" equivalent
We should be windmilling mines and there is still a village to grow to town at Memphis but we also should get another +50% from cathedral there
OK I mostly had to just hit enter. Did switch to build 2 taoist temples. They should be rushed to complete when Memphis finishes the UN so it can then do the Pagoda. Artist born on the last turn. Save is 1822 but I haven't moved anything. There is not much to do. I would switch back to representation for the relations gain with Cy and Jules. We should probably switch to culture soon in the 3 cities.
Went to slavery temporarily to whip temples, 2 last cathedrals almost done. Then swapped back to emancipation (one unfinished cottage at Memphis) and representation as suggested. This increased relations with cyrus and JC but decreased them with Asoka.
Cyrus asked for electricity for free, didn't want to help him. Took -1 rep for that. Arbela tried to revolt to us, will probably flip before game's end.
We built UN and were duly voted in as SecGen, everyone voted for us except Asoka who voted for Cyrus. Unfortunately, we have only 379/655 votes and would need Asoka's vote for diplo win which I don't think we can get unless we can somehow convert him to Conf too.
Heliopolis spawned a merchant.
Sent the 2 missionaries we had to India and merchant to Rome which should fund 100% culture for the rest of the game. We also have a spy, we could sabotage some AI health resources if we wanted to trade for them ourselves but maybe the team will think it's not very honourable so I refrained from doing it on my turns.
Cathy and Mansa built Apollo, Cyrus 13 turns away. I estimate that we will get cultural victory in about 1925 and I can't see the AI launching before that, so I think this is a win for us anyway unless Cyrus decides to backstab us. I don't think he will as he will be in spacerace mode now. If he does attack, he will have Tanks and artillery and there's absolutely nothing we can do to stop it, so I didn't build any more military.
Cyrus asked for electricity for free, didn't want to help him. Took -1 rep for that. Arbela tried to revolt to us, will probably flip before game's end.
We built UN and were duly voted in as SecGen, everyone voted for us except Asoka who voted for Cyrus. Unfortunately, we have only 379/655 votes and would need Asoka's vote for diplo win which I don't think we can get unless we can somehow convert him to Conf too.
Heliopolis spawned a merchant.
Sent the 2 missionaries we had to India and merchant to Rome which should fund 100% culture for the rest of the game. We also have a spy, we could sabotage some AI health resources if we wanted to trade for them ourselves but maybe the team will think it's not very honourable so I refrained from doing it on my turns.
Cathy and Mansa built Apollo, Cyrus 13 turns away. I estimate that we will get cultural victory in about 1925 and I can't see the AI launching before that, so I think this is a win for us anyway unless Cyrus decides to backstab us. I don't think he will as he will be in spacerace mode now. If he does attack, he will have Tanks and artillery and there's absolutely nothing we can do to stop it, so I didn't build any more military.
OK, Turn 1 , Cyrys city revolted to as.
I accept, it does contain Buddism.
Revolted to orgonised religion/US.
Start spread buddism and Hinduism. WE did not spread hinduism in 2 cities and as result were missing one Hindy cathedral.
Rigth now we are on the middle of spreading buddism and bulding hindy and budda temples. Ohh, and I run trade mission to Catty city, got 2100 insted of1900 it did run to.
I accept, it does contain Buddism.
Revolted to orgonised religion/US.
Start spread buddism and Hinduism. WE did not spread hinduism in 2 cities and as result were missing one Hindy cathedral.
Rigth now we are on the middle of spreading buddism and bulding hindy and budda temples. Ohh, and I run trade mission to Catty city, got 2100 insted of1900 it did run to.
Oh we got Buddhism... this is great news as everyone except Asoka is in free religion now so we can convert, gain his friendship and not lose any relations with other civs.
I think we have the diplo win now. If we go back to representation (to keep Caesar on our side), convert to Buddhism and spread it a bit more and cancel both current defensive pacts to avoid the -2 from other civs before voting time, we should get Asoka vote and the win.
I think we have the diplo win now. If we go back to representation (to keep Caesar on our side), convert to Buddhism and spread it a bit more and cancel both current defensive pacts to avoid the -2 from other civs before voting time, we should get Asoka vote and the win.
Did what Uberfish said mainly. Revolt to buddhism when it spreads to the GP farm. Switch to pacifism and representation (missionaries and stupa are finished). Drop defensive pacts. And the game is like ... over :
unanimous vote for the cutie
That was a dry one but educational nonetheless
unanimous vote for the cutie
That was a dry one but educational nonetheless
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