Mod-Modders Guide to Fall Further

[odalrick]

You are saying the DLL is sending those and python isn't recieving, or somethimg else?

Yes, pretty much. Well, python is receiving but with no handler assigned it isn't doing anything.

 

[WarKirby]

ok. Using python to remove a promotion which a unit may or may not have. Are there going to be any problems if it attempts to remove a promotion when the unit doesn't have it ? Is it necessary to check that ?

 

[WarKirby]

OK, the nif files do not seem so easy to manipulate. How do you select the "changed parts" to copy back into the original ? Which software are you using (hex editor ?) ?

wait, what?

When did I say anything about text editors? I use nifscope for this.

copy branch/paste branch

 

[WarKirby]

Also, is there a python method to check whether or not a unit is currently enraged. ie, out of the player's control.

I'm not actually wanting to check for the Enraged promotion, because there are multiple different promotions that have that effect. Rather, I want to check if the unit is under the effect that Enraged, Frenzy, Freelancer, etc, cause.

Looks like nobody answered this. Anyone know ?

 

[xienwolf]

You don't need to bother checking if a unit has a promotion before you remove it.

pUnit.isAIControl() tells you if the unit is under Enraged type effects.

 

[WarKirby]

Ok, getting some errors:

Spoiler :

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XML Error
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Tag: UNIT_DRUID_HAWK in Info class was incorrect 
 Current XML file is: modules\NormalModules\Druids\druid_CIV4SpellInfos.xml
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OK   
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I get this for my transforming spells.
The spell code:

Spoiler :

<SpellInfo>			<!-- Hawk Form -->
			<Type>SPELL_HAWK_FORM</Type>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_HAWK_FORM</Description>
			<Civilopedia>TXT_KEY_WILD_SHAPE_PEDIA</Civilopedia>
			<Help>TXT_KEY_BEAR_FORM_HELP</Help>
			<PromotionPrereq1>PROMOTION_WILD_SHAPE</PromotionPrereq1>
			<bAllowAI>1</bAllowAI>
			<iCasterMinLevel>4</iCasterMinLevel>
			<iAIWeight>50</iAIWeight>
			<bAbility>1</bAbility>
			<ConvertUnitType>UNIT_DRUID_HAWK</ConvertUnitType>
			<AddPromotionType1>PROMOTION_CLOUDED_MIND</AddPromotionType1>
			<PyRequirement>reqWildShape(pCaster)</PyRequirement>
			<Effect>EFFECT_SPELL1</Effect>
			<Sound>AS3D_SPELL_TRAIN</Sound>
			<Button>Art/Interface/Buttons/Units/Hawk.dds</Button>
		</SpellInfo>

The error it's complaining about is in ConvertUnitType.
And the appropriate unitinfos entry...

Spoiler :

<UnitInfo>		<!-- Druid - Hawk Form -->
			<Class>UNITCLASS_DRUID</Class>
			<Type>UNIT_DRUID_HAWK</Type>
			<Combat>UNITCOMBAT_BEAST</Combat>
			<DefaultUnitAI>UNITAI_ATTACK</DefaultUnitAI>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_UNIT_HAWK_FORM</Description>
			<Civilopedia>TXT_KEY_WILD_SHAPE_PEDIA</Civilopedia>
			<bMilitarySupport>1</bMilitarySupport>
			<bMilitaryProduction>1</bMilitaryProduction>
			<UnitAIs>
				<UnitAI>
					<UnitAIType>UNITAI_ATTACK</UnitAIType>
					<bUnitAI>1</bUnitAI>
				</UnitAI>
			</UnitAIs>
			<iMoves>1</iMoves>
			<iCombat>8</iCombat>
			<iCityAttack>-20</iCityAttack>
			<iAsset>0</iAsset>
			<iPower>32</iPower>
			<UnitMeshGroups>
				<iGroupSize>1</iGroupSize>
				<fMaxSpeed>10</fMaxSpeed>
				<iMeleeWaveSize>1</iMeleeWaveSize>
				<iRangedWaveSize>1</iRangedWaveSize>
				<UnitMeshGroup>
					<iRequired>1</iRequired>
					<EarlyArtDefineTag>ART_DEF_UNIT_HAWK</EarlyArtDefineTag>
				</UnitMeshGroup>
			</UnitMeshGroups>
			<FreePromotions>
				<FreePromotion>
					<PromotionType>PROMOTION_HAWK_FORM</PromotionType>
					<bFreePromotion>1</bFreePromotion>
				</FreePromotion>
				<FreePromotion>
					<PromotionType>PROMOTION_POLYMORPHED</PromotionType>
					<bFreePromotion>1</bFreePromotion>
				</FreePromotion>
			</FreePromotions>
		</UnitInfo>

Any thoughts on what might be wrong?

 

[xienwolf]

Spell is probably trying to load before the unit. Use an MLF to force the unit to load first.

 

[odalrick]

Trawling though CvGameUtils I found a few functions that don't seem to do anything, since they are never called:

cannotGrow
cannotStarve
cannotSpreadReligionHere
cannotSpreadReligion

Are they part of some aborted extensions, or is the truth more sinister? Apart from cannotSpreadReligionHere they don't try to do anything.

cannotSpreadReligionHere looks like it tries to prevent spreading of religion in Khadi lands, but of course it is never asked for an opinion on the subject.

 

[WarKirby]

That would probably be why Intolerant doesn't work.

 

[sylvain5477]

Does someone remember why sheut stone is kind of disabled at the moment (chance to appear = 0 ) ?

 

[WarKirby]

Because it's never supposed to be spawned, at all, ever.

It appears when hell terrain covers marble. Marble gets converted to sheut stone.

 

[Iceciro]

I was going to ask this in the overall forum but thought it may be different in Fall Further.

What is the difference between the AI's "limited" and normal war? And is a Dogpile war a "limited" or normal war?
Doing some mucking about with the AIs to try to make the game a tad bit more friendly to people who don't want war all the time.

 

[xienwolf]

Limited war they use the units they have. Normal war they crank units to crush you. Dogpile they are hitting you wi absolutely everything in conjunction with other players (force you into multi-front war)


odalrick: Could you compile a list of every callback you have found to be missing one side or the other and put it in the bug thread so I review them later?

 

[sylvain5477]

I would like to use the tag PrereqPromotionsOnTile for promoton but it seems not to be working. Indeed it seems always true, even when the specified promotion is not on the tile.
Any idea whether it is a real tag or some abandonned project ?

 

[xienwolf]

Bug which was reported last version and I apparently never corrected.

 

[Iceciro]

Xien, how often are those warfare rands called? Every turn, every five turns, etc?

 

[xienwolf]

Pretty sure they are called bloody often, possibly each turn. Open the RandLogger and search for the text string they use, turn number is indicated for each call.

 

[WarKirby]

What tag do I need to use in the mlf to specify an xml file to load. The example one only has directories, and the schema seems to have several things which sound plausible.

 

[Iceciro]

As long as they're in the right folder with the right structure they'll load automatically.

 

[xienwolf]

MLF only controls per folder. But a folder can hold as many or as few XML as desired. So you just place each XML and schema in a separate folder