Modern Armor questions

[ALA Gator]

I have 2 question regarding modern armor. I am playing a regent level game CIV 3 1.29f.

1. Does MA ignore cultural borders? I thought I saw that MA could use other civs roads and RR.

2. What is the cost to upgrade from tanks to MA?

 

[Othniel]

1. Modern Armor cannot use another civ's roads unless it has an ROP--same as for any other unit.

2. Sorry, I don't remember the upgrade cost factor for vanilla civ

 

[psweetman1590]

Tanks cost 100 shields, MA cost 120. I believe it costs 4 gold for one shield, so that would make the upgrade cost 80 gold per tank. Of course, I could be off by any multiple of 20...

 

[ALA Gator]

Does it matter that I really WANT MA to ingnore the culture...

Thanks.

 

[AutomatedTeller]

They have a movement of 3 - maybe they just moved fast? My guess is that the civs have an ROP with each other.

 

[Diviner]

Tanks cost 100 shields, MA cost 120. I believe it costs 4 gold for one shield, so that would make the upgrade cost 80 gold per tank. Of course, I could be off by any multiple of 20...

upgrade cost is three per shields in, so only 60, but thats not much in late game imo

 

[psweetman1590]

Thanks, I wasn't sure exactly how much a shield cost.

 

[Othniel]

That 3x cost factor is for C3C.

I believe ALA Gator is playing vanilla civ and the cost factor is different in that version. The mass warrior --> swords upgrade strategy used to be better because the upgrade cost was cheaper, so I'm guessing the cost factor is something like 2x for vanilla.

That would make a tank --> Modern Armor cost 2*(120-100) = 40gp per upgrade. I might be off still in the cost factor, though.

 

[Diviner]

yeah kinda strange that warrior-sword and tank-ma upgrade cost the same 60 gp. in AA you can upgrade only few warriors without emptying your treasury totally, but in the late game 40 gp is really nothing. i wish there had been a more sophisticated upg-system...

 

[pickle]

you could make the shield values of the units higher, i did this when i edited the rules for ptw, 180 for a tank and 240 for MA. forgot to change the panzer so naturally the germans did a bit of stomping in the late industrial.