Modern Warfare MOD

nudden · Oct 10, 2010

Current Version: 6 / Status: BETA

DESCRIPTION:
I'll try to describe this MOD as short as possible because of my limited language knowledge. As a big fan of Total Realism for CIV Warlords i want to create a MOD in a similarly way. That's not really possible because I mod alone and can only do XML and some artworks. For me it is OK because there are other great Coder in the Community who can do the LUA and DLL stuff much better than me.
So, what's the MOD about: Longer Games, which means that you will find a huge extended TechTree for all Eras of the Game. More "Uniqueness" in every kind of way, which means more unique units, unique buildings, unique promotions and so on. The player should have the feeling that he is playing i.e. FRANCE and not MALI. Furthermore my MOD's focus is the Modern (Cold War) Era, which means Modern Civs, Modern Leaderheads and so on.
I know that these informations are very rare but i hope they gave you a short overview about what's in and what's not in. For detailed informations please have a look at post #2.
Thanks for your attention and perhaps for testing and giving feedback!

-nudden

NOTE:
- DLC's required/supported: Mongols, Inca&Spain, Polynesia, Denmark
- Only English Language support
- Important: to see the new static leaderheads please go to: mydocuments/mygames/Sid Meier's Civilization 5/GraphicsSettingsDX9 OR GraphicsSettingsDX11 (depends on what version of Civ5 you play). Open the file and search for: Whether or not to use static screenshots of leaders (this is the default for min-spec machines) UseScreenShots = 0 (change the "0" to "1" and save)

FEATURES:
- New modern Leaderheads for all Civs
- Civs are now "modern"
- Realistic Names for Great Generals for each Civ
- Giant World Map with 22 Civs in real starting positions
- ... for more please see the ChangeLog at Post #2

KNOWN ISSUES:
- ...

OTHER MODS/MOD PARTS INCLUDED AND CREDITS:
- ...

INTERESTING MODS FOR FUTURE MERGE:
- civ5crazy's ui emod by civ5 crazy
- Building Resources by Whys
- Resource Generator by Deep_Blue
- IndieStone D.U.C.K.S mod by lemmy101 & CaptainBinky

SPECIAL THANKS TO:
Kael (Modding Guide), Gedemon ([TSL] Yet (not) Another Earth Maps Pack), lemmy101, Whys (Building Resources), Deep_Blue (Resource Generator)

Units: bernie14, LoneGamer, danrell, Deliverator, blazekid87

Wonder: ambrox62, Pouakai, sukritact

DOWNLOAD:
Link: Download v 6
Please delete all previous versions before installing a new one!

nudden · Oct 10, 2010

ChangeLog for v1 - v6:

Spoiler :

nudden · Oct 10, 2010

reserved

nudden · Oct 10, 2010

for me

Acoustic · Oct 10, 2010

Description maybe?

nudden · Oct 10, 2010

Acoustic said:
Description maybe?

not much to describe yet...see the changelog for details....its a work in progress and the mod is living from new unit graphics.

cheers

Starfleeter · Oct 10, 2010

Looks like some good changes there but I'd recommend giving us a short description of what the focus of this mod is, why you're making the changes, etc so that we know what to look forward to in your future changes.

darkedone02 · Oct 10, 2010

yeah, when posting your mod, it's recommended that you post some information about what your mod is about. Otherwise people think this be some type of scam or something shady.

Acoustic · Oct 10, 2010

So is this going to be a total conversion mod for just the modern age, or the all of them?
What kind of realism are we talking? Anyways, I like the way it sounds.

nudden · Oct 11, 2010

Acoustic said:
So is this going to be a total conversion mod for just the modern age, or the all of them?
What kind of realism are we talking? Anyways, I like the way it sounds.

Mainly a total conversion for the industrial and modern age. As realism is concerned it should also be a good balance in the game to keep this mod playable. In the near future i also attach a huge world map.

cheers

makrisgialos · Oct 11, 2010

Is it possible to add units from the internal of the game?
I m talking for english ship of the line,to be available to all civilizations...

nudden · Oct 15, 2010

new version is up in the mod browser....--> modern warfare v1 alpha
see changelog for details

cheers

ngyuishing · Oct 16, 2010

what civilizations are included?

nudden · Oct 17, 2010

ngyuishing said:
what civilizations are included?

until now just the vanilla ones. waiting for modern leaderhead graphics to add and change the civilizations.

cheers

Lord Shadow · Oct 17, 2010

Unless you're going to limit games strictly to the Industrial and Modern Eras, expanding the tech tree and unit choices won't work very well. Most of the expanded units will become obsolete before anyone could build them. The tech tree, on the other hand, will exceed the game's timeframe unless you tweak the passage of time during the latter areas.

nudden · Oct 17, 2010

Lord Shadow said:
Unless you're going to limit games strictly to the Industrial and Modern Eras, expanding the tech tree and unit choices won't work very well. Most of the expanded units will become obsolete before anyone could build them. The tech tree, on the other hand, will exceed the game's timeframe unless you tweak the passage of time during the latter areas.

iam not going to limit the game to the industrial and modern eras. its just the main focus in the beginning for adding new units and so on....

Lord Shadow · Oct 17, 2010

Then I suggest to that you tweak the passage of time in such eras, making them last longer so that the player can really appreciate the expanded unit choices. Not to mention research the added technologies before the time's up.

Lightzy · Oct 17, 2010

So far from your current changes I detect:

1) Production even more underpowered than it was compared to economy generation and is thus more or less completely impractical.
I'd remove all the trading post bonuses in order to make actual terrain more important, and then give mines +2 to production from the start and an extra +1 with dynamite (for a total of +3 prod from a mine with dynamite).
This also helps make dynamite a relevant tech.

In fact I'd change TPs to give +1 gold and then another +1 with economics, to make terrain even more important.

2) Increasing city damage is great but keep in mind that the way the game is currently built, cities are basically offensive guard-towers (note the ICS strategy), so I'd at least make ICS impossible by changing the way CSs work:

No free food.
maybe a % bonus... 15% bonus to food generated in each city, rounded down, for allied status. same with culture. then many small cities just don't work for the purpose of getting infinite food and ICS isn't as good and only large/specialized cities actually get bonuses.
In effect, you have to actually make something REAL and then get a bonus, but no magic food/culture.
Free 'magic' food would seem to not fit well with a 'total realism' agenda also.

3) I'd suggest interconnecting techs in a more realistic way.
For example, no cavalry/tanks/anything without gunpowder and riflery. etc.

4) I'd suggest making resource demands from units slightly more realistic and prohibitive, and add resource demands from certain buildings so that resources aren't so useless later in the game.
There are already mods for this but those mods are badly constructed in that they care nothing for how they completely unbalance the game even further, so I think it would be great if in your project, which is a 'total' type of project, you came up with ur own solution that is balanced

5) Suggest also to slow research to 75% of what it is currently. I made a mod that does this and interconnects the tech tree better.. it repaces the game better I think.
Also prohibits crazy tech slingshots where u skip whole eras.
On the downside, it makes great scientists even more unbalanced... maybe u could come up with a way where great scientists work like they did in civ4, adding research points to a certain random tech that you can research.

All the other changes are great and I'm really looking forward to see how this mod grows.

nudden · Oct 18, 2010

Lord Shadow said:
Then I suggest to that you tweak the passage of time in such eras, making them last longer so that the player can really appreciate the expanded unit choices. Not to mention research the added technologies before the time's up.

yeah...of course i have this in mind. but i menaged it quite well in my previous mod for civ4.

Lightzy said:
So far from your current changes I detect:

1) Production even more underpowered than it was compared to economy generation and is thus more or less completely impractical.
I'd remove all the trading post bonuses in order to make actual terrain more important, and then give mines +2 to production from the start and an extra +1 with dynamite (for a total of +3 prod from a mine with dynamite).
This also helps make dynamite a relevant tech.

In fact I'd change TPs to give +1 gold and then another +1 with economics, to make terrain even more important.

2) Increasing city damage is great but keep in mind that the way the game is currently built, cities are basically offensive guard-towers (note the ICS strategy), so I'd at least make ICS impossible by changing the way CSs work:

No free food.
maybe a % bonus... 15% bonus to food generated in each city, rounded down, for allied status. same with culture. then many small cities just don't work for the purpose of getting infinite food and ICS isn't as good and only large/specialized cities actually get bonuses.
In effect, you have to actually make something REAL and then get a bonus, but no magic food/culture.
Free 'magic' food would seem to not fit well with a 'total realism' agenda also.

3) I'd suggest interconnecting techs in a more realistic way.
For example, no cavalry/tanks/anything without gunpowder and riflery. etc.

4) I'd suggest making resource demands from units slightly more realistic and prohibitive, and add resource demands from certain buildings so that resources aren't so useless later in the game.
There are already mods for this but those mods are badly constructed in that they care nothing for how they completely unbalance the game even further, so I think it would be great if in your project, which is a 'total' type of project, you came up with ur own solution that is balanced

5) Suggest also to slow research to 75% of what it is currently. I made a mod that does this and interconnects the tech tree better.. it repaces the game better I think.
Also prohibits crazy tech slingshots where u skip whole eras.
On the downside, it makes great scientists even more unbalanced... maybe u could come up with a way where great scientists work like they did in civ4, adding research points to a certain random tech that you can research.

All the other changes are great and I'm really looking forward to see how this mod grows.

thanks a lot for your detailed feedback!

for now iam a little bit angry because of the new "civilopedia" (or shall i call it "horsehockytypedia"). nearly nothing of the xml changes are reflected as it were in civ4. i had to test every little change because sometimes the "modbuddy" takes my changes sometimes he dont. in my opinion the xml modding in civ4 was much easier and faster to handle. :sad:

ok, enough of it. i'll see what i can do for the next version. again thx for the feedback because iam much more a modder than such a detailed gamer.

cheers

Me,myself,and,I · Oct 20, 2010

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