Moon Colony within 20 years!

Originally posted by HighlandWarrior
we've supposedly gone to the moon once over 30 years ago and we're going to have a colony on the moon in 20 years...ha!

yep

EDIT: Well maybe when Bush will turn the Moon into a "Death Star" and hold Earth hostage!
 
Originally posted by Dumb pothead


Martians will be really tall one day, and the Lunarians (Loonies? Moonies? How about the Lunari?) will be really REALLY tall.

centerfugal forces, as far as in space goes it would be easy to just teather the capsule to an empty fule tank or something and spin it, artifical gravity, I'm sure they could do something similar on the surface.. that could keep them from gettign osteoporosis so fast.
 
Originally posted by onejayhawk
There is nothing on the moon that anyone wants at the moment.

I want to cover this planet in cropland, and I want rain too. So, unless we find an effective way of tickling volcanoes, let's plan to blast off chunks of moon and let them fall to Earth, disperse in the upper atmosphere, and seed cloud formations. The Moon is 1/10th Earth's mass, I believe. That's a lot of fertilizer, over time. Why live on the moon when we can nuke it to here?
 
Wait, are you actually serious?
 
For a moment there I actually thought you wanted to take the moon apart and cover the world in wheat!
 
I do, because - yes - I do want to cover the world with wheat and a few papaya groves. Would you prefer mango orchards?
 
Originally posted by Suki


centerfugal forces, as far as in space goes it would be easy to just teather the capsule to an empty fule tank or something and spin it, artifical gravity, I'm sure they could do something similar on the surface.. that could keep them from gettign osteoporosis so fast.

They'll probably do something like that in the beginning but later on it wouldnt be practical. You cant spin a whole civilisation.
 
Originally posted by G-Man


We know how the human bodt reacts with earth's gravity, and we know how it reacts with no gravity. There's no reason to believe low gravity would be much different, and in any case it will still teach us only about the moon and not about planets where we might actually have a reason to settle. And as to the psyche, it's pretty sure it'll be similar to a regular space travel.

It's one thing to be in space in close orbit to earth, with a rescue pod 1 minute away, and a completely different thing to be on a planet where home can be over a year away. So, you honestly believe that we have absolutely nothing valuable to learn from colonizing the moon? If so, im glad your not the head of NASA. :)
 
Originally posted by .:KNAS:.
It's one thing to be in space in close orbit to earth, with a rescue pod 1 minute away, and a completely different thing to be on a planet where home can be over a year away. So, you honestly believe that we have absolutely nothing valuable to learn from colonizing the moon? If so, im glad your not the head of NASA. :)

I don't see why would it be any different, why would it take a year to go from the moon to earth, or what we can learn from it that we can't learn from cheaper robotic programs.
 
Originally posted by G-Man


I don't see why would it be any different, why would it take a year to go from the moon to earth, or what we can learn from it.

Read KNAS's post a little closer. ;)

In the last part he didn't mention the moon, he mentioned another planet. :)
 
The moon isn't a planet, but in any case he said:
"colonizing the moon"
 
Originally posted by G-Man


I don't see why would it be any different, why would it take a year to go from the moon to earth, or what we can learn from it that we can't learn from cheaper robotic programs.

Well, i meant from Mars to Earth, it could take more then a year. But like i said, robots can not measure the psychological pressure of knowing that home and help is over a year away. What i was meaning was that i believe that being on a colony on a plabet/moon would be very different from being in a space shuttle in close orbit. Colonizing the moon (on a relatively small scale, i don't think there would be much of an idea to have millions of people living there, a few hundred scientists at most) would teach mankind valuable lessons.
 
Why colonize the moon? There's plenty of room in Siberia or Montana. WITH air!
 
Ok , it took me a few time but i found this pretty good site about our magnetic field.


It look some of you underestimated my statement about high velocity charged particules from solar flare.

As far as i know moon and mars dont have a magnetic field.Look at bottom picture and read chapter aside it, would you realy like to live outside our shield?


Link:http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/earth/magnetic.html
 
And i am pretty sure at 99.999% that our international space station is well within this shield, so all experiment done could not be applied to moon or mars, on a radiation point of view.


Space station is politic in a scientific point of view. I hardly support G-man point of view about using robot and probe insteed of human mission.
 
So send a robot to the moon. There's no scientifical experiment that can be done on the moon by humans and not by robots, and every psychological experiment can be done on earth. Put some people in a bunker in Siberia without a phone if you want. I see no reason to build a moon colony for the single reason of testing what living in it will cause. When we'll find a place we have a reason to colonize, we'll build a colony there. We'll still learn the same things, only at half a cost.
 
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